Icebreaker4men: has anyone tried it, or is it another pherlure-looking product?

Has anyone here tried icebreaker4men? I noticed that a number of ‘review’ sites gave it a good write up. Im not sure about the ‘patent pending’ ingredients or the pherlure looking website and bottle :roll_eyes:

Anyway I ordered up Ammo and TUTH so I will hopefully have some fun this weekend! Rock on! :cool:

You’re right about the site and bottle looking a lot like pherlure, which doesn’t necessarily inspire confidence. On the other hand, they do list what pheromones are in it, which makes it seem a lot more legit. Who knows, it might be a decent product, unfortunately I don’t know anyone who has tried it.

Oh that’s from the infamous Mr. H over at (name of labs remove). He has designed and manufactured some decent stuff like Aquagen. He had a falling out at LS due to…well if you really want to know you can search the LS forums and read all about it firsthand. Icebreaker is among a heap of new products aimed at competing with Androtics. He needs to work on branding and marketing bigtime. When he partnered with LS he came off much better. I haven’t tried it but liked Aquagen (I was one of the testers/trial group). CS was slow…

I’m pretty sure this product is pretty similar to Pherlure. Probably same maker and the websites look similar too. Also they both have the same ‘website anonymity protector’.

I wouldn’t try this. The reviews are written by the creators very often. Just check the whois if it really is an independent website and if YOU are able to put a negative review on there too.

I have not tried it either, but the Oxytocin Analog did catch my attention. I have used Liquid Trust; which contains Oxytocin, and had great results with the first bottle, then ziltch with a second bottle. The claims they made about Oxytocin Analog really interested me and I acutally tried to find a source where it could be purchased standalone, without any luck.

From the ingredient list, it does look interesting, but I didn’t like the fact that they do not disclose pheromone content anywhere, and if you really analyze the testimonials, it is pretty apparant that from the writing style they were all written by the same person. Not all all confidence building.

A whois lookup shows the domain has a private registration through DomainsByProxy.com, was registered in July of 2007 and only registered for one year. Again, this does not inspire confidence.

The maker of icebreaker4men advertised on my blog for a month. After that he stopped because he didn’t get many clicks through my blog. He seemed like a genuine person though so I think he will honor the money-back guarantee if you didn’t get desired results from the product.

The ingredient list looks interesting especially the oxytocin analog that mark mentioned. I think it’s the same product as the icebreaker sold on PC’s website, only with a fancy label (either that or two companies are applying for patent on the same molecule).

For those of you curious about the maker of aquagen (Chris Schraud) here’s another gem:

INTERNET CHEMICAL COMPANY OWNER PLEADS GUILTY TO SELLING DRUGS THROUGH HIS INTERNET WEBSITE

CHRISTOPHER SCHRAUD, Pleasant Valley, New York, pled guilty to one felony count of misbranding drugs. He now faces a maximum penalty of three years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000 when he is sentenced April 4, 2008.

Christopher Schraud Press Release (Guilty Plea)

so this guy Mr. H seems pretty controversial. his product Aq was very popular at Love scent . u can learn alot about him through his myspace page - the guy seems to have a background in chemistry, but the page was just plain old weird. intriguing character though, and he probably has some genius for creating pheromone products. seeing as its the Aq guy, i think its worth trying hes other products, especially 3rd generation Aq, as Nbullly says, has some new carrier system to extend the diffusion properties, what is it called again?

No wonder customer service is so slow at Mr. H’s (CHRISTOPHER SCHRAUD) unmentionable site! If he actually gets 3 years in the big house his ass is grass. Only 22 and a skinny PhD candidate. Sheesh he’s gonna be some Neanderthal’s, err, date. They probably won’t let him use pheromones in prison. Poor dude.

I better go lightly on my last bottle of Aquagen. It’s going the way of PheroProof (which I still hoard and use for special dates only).

No way. Mr. H merely copied their style as he was short on marketing staff (running mone business outta dad’s home).

i find his website quite remarkable. hes like some sort of phero genius, or a mad nutter…:slight_smile:, juries out on the kid, :slight_smile: [dare i say, …literally?] sorry, bad joke. but he deserves our sympathies, and his company appear to be very genuine and into research and development. his posts on LS r very scientific and indepth but controversial,… his products appear to be very interesting in his exploration of a more effective base instead of alcohol or oil that will enhance diffusion and phero. effectiveness. this is in AQ for women and AQ 3rd generation. and his insights like, “shampoos and conditioners applify the effectiveness 3 times over” or, “sprayed onto heavy textiles such as wool and fur amplify the effectiveness”, plus the oxytocin analog product thats meant to be alot better than Liquid Trust, but has not been released yet, and then ofcourse, theres hes weird transexual product. and what exacty iS in AQ?
so this may have raised eyebrows…is he a misunderstood superstar? or “is this guy for real?”…

if nothing else, he’s website, if read in its entirety, is an intriguing read on the psychology of pheromones. for eg. “wearing pheromones is not unfair or a form of manipulation, in fact, we were meant to have pheromones on our skin,… but in modern society, due to hygiene, showering and social conditioning, we r told that its wrong…and r natural signatures r washed off…so we r simply adding whats meant to be on our skin layers anyway”…[to para-phrase completely].

Nbully provided a link to his Myspace page and its some kid t out of college who seems to have a unique genius. He had a falling out with the OP and AQ was taken off there product list. But Gegogi and others claim it to be a decent product…and he was selling hes 3rd gen. AQ that was meant to be an improvement. His products have potential but i guess will now never know. hes websites still up and running, but for how long? i wouldnt buy it off the “icebreakerformen.com” though. still, compared to Phelure etc., the kid aint a scammer.

This prosuct sucks. I have not gotten any hits from it at all. It is a knock off of Aqua Di Gio it smells alright but the cologne aspect of it is way too strong to get a good dosing of pheros.

So, what did he get? Aquagen users in the UK need to know! :wink:

well if u like aquagen,theres many Ebay companies re-selling it, just like they do with all OP products. im curious about the AQ 3rd Generation which, is apparently an improvement due to the silicon fluid base [in preference to oil or alcohol]. it is claimed to increase the diffusion properties of pheromones. Icebreaker is also using silicon fluids. dunno? until im getting great feedback on LS forums about it, id rather spend my money on putatives.

then again, after reading the above press release, and what was said about him passing off horse steroids as EST, man, the guy sounds dodgy…do we even know if AQ or Icebreaker r safe? icebreakerformen.com appear to be a different company altogether, but they probably get there products from Mr. H.

I’m a newbie hi all.
What is this person doing? What is this i dont Understand.:o

I still have about half a bottle of unscented Aquagen. Nice social vibe but smells like ass. I only use it on my days off as I have so many other evil potions to play with. No use getting attached as it’s probably history. I learned my lesson with PheroProof (good shit but the maker went south).

Well I just found this thread from a link suggested on another forum about pheromones [Link removed by Steve] as we’re trying to find this elusive Chris Schraud, whom seems to be related to these products…

He may be “no scammer” as one poster says but he has $1500 we sent to the Wachovia Bank in November 2009 and now all his phone lines with exception of Alpha Dream’s answering machine, are dead. We had his home and cellphone numbers so we’ve called in the Police.

Any got info? It would be appreciated… :angry:

I tried Icebreaker…

I tried Icebreaker… It does not work. I don’t advise it.

I wonder if they were using Equilin which is an estrogen that was used in conjunction with Estrone in Premarin (used for human female hormone replacement therapy).

I had read on Pherotruth that Meo-EST is an analog of Equilin. This is a good thread for more info about it - Methoxyestratetraenone - (MEO-Estratetraenol (EST))