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Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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been reading peoples journals and i have seen how people have progressed their results social as well as for themselves as each day went by. I am not much of one to write and keep my progresion noted (even when i was studying PUA). So wanted to try something new and having read some pretty impressive journals like pherophreaks i find my self motivated to do the same and to see how my results improve.

About me: just to keep it short im a pretty chill guy, who can be very irritable at times (something i want to work on) when things are not working my way and this is often when it comes with women.

Objective: Learn to chat up strangers (something i am trying to improve on) more easily with better success. I have found that once i get to know girls and can get them to go on a date its a done deal because from my recent dates i have done really well and know what to do. I also want to be more confident in myself both with women and in general.

Arsenal : Bottle of Ammo f22 world edition, Bottle of TUTH, Bottle of Instant openness, to go of instant openness, Instant shine, instant honesty, Instant Gentleman, and Alpha A314

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Ok anyways my first tries with mones i did not notice much but maybe that was because i was not looking hard enough and because i kind of expected women to be throwing themselves at me literally.

I was looking forward to using mones last friday and this was how it went

I went out last night and absolutely nothing. I mean i i felt really good when i came in (guess that was the mones ). I even got a few looks and dances but nothing much more than what i normally got. The only thing i noticed but maybe it was wishful thinking seeing how the rest of the night went, was that a girl that i was in line with was giving me looks while we were in line and when we got in the club i went up the deck area and like 2 minutes later she was there standing next me with her friend. Don’t know if it was a coincidence or the mones . I did not pursue because i was scared that she was not interested and did not want to get rejected so soon after coming in.

Anyways the effects that i did get seemed to be short lived. I guess because there were so many people there that when i walked to a different place my body rubbed on like 10 people before i got to my destination. So it shortened the length because by the end of the night i did not smell too good. People seem to not take shower before they come to clubs.

So it was a wasted night for me. I was looking forward to last night so bad all week long to try out these mones but it turned out to be a dud. The night went so bad that i got bitched at by a rather attractive black girl. I tried to pull her hand to dance and she screams NOOOOO!!! so i tell her there is no need to be rude and shout and she said shes with her boyfriend and she hugs this guy right next to her. So i tell her guy i did not know but there was not any need to be rude. Just say you have a boyfriend and ill back off. I was angry at how the night was going at this point that i leave an hour before the club closed

P.S. The girls at the club looked extremely young i mean i am 22 but the look liked 17 or 18 so i dont know if the mones i used did not work them because they were too young or something.

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I have one summer class this summer and will start work soon so i’m looking forward to trying some these in both environments.

Anyways i had class my first day of class on monday and tried this mix
1x Ammo
2x IS
6x IO (4 to each part of head and one to each wrist)

I got what many would call a hit but i didn’t think so do the way in which in happened.

So i was walking to class and got lost looking for the class (taking a summer class in a different college). So when i come out of the door this rather attractive muslim girl makes eye contact with me from like 20 ft away. She walks up to me and starts talking to me.. she asks me if i might know where her class. I was shocked at this point and stopped to answer her. I told her that i did not know that i was also looking for my class and turned to start walking. She follows me lol so i ask her what class she had and it turns out she has the same class as me so i tell her we can look for the class together. So as we are walking i ask her what was her name he tells me (but i forgot it lol it starts with an N) and i tell her mine and stick out m hand and shake her hand she smiles and shakes it.

So we continue to talk and i find out what her major is and that she does not go to this college either. We get a bit lost trying to find it (i was leading and lead her to wrong way a few times) we finally get to the class and we are kind of late and all the seats are taken so we part and take seats where they were open.

This is a three days a week class and its three hours long (pre calc) lol gonna me a long 5 weeks. During the class i tried to look through my peripheral to see if she was looking and i felt like she was a few time but not entirely sure because she could have been looking at the board. Anyways when class ended i toke my time and got left and hoping that i would bump into her. Turns out she was walking behind me but i did not know until she started to talk to someone on the phone. I take a look back and see her but i keep walking and don’t try to initiate anything.

So it was a good night i guess. I have the class again tomorrow night and will try to talk to her again as well as check out the other girls in the class which is something i could not do because we were late.

I have a few mixes that i saw on peoples journals that i wanted to try. For All day tomorrow i want to try
4x IO
2x IH
1x Ammo
hope it goes i’ll keep you guys posted.
P.S. wanted to know what you guys thought i should do about finding out the girls name again i totally forgot it.

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Hi, I’m glad you have fallen into the phero chasm. I have a suggestion that will help you in the long run.

I would start with Just Instant Openness for the week at school and notice the results. I would start with one spray and work your way up. After you find what amount of Instant Openness the girls respond to then try just Instant Honesty for a week. I know this is time consuming, and it may seem like a waste of time, but once you master one product you will know better how people will react when you layer products. This will also help you save money and you will not be wasting your product.

I hope this helps you out.

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thanks for the advice man but i have been reading many peoples journals and they have all started out with combos and had success. I also want to do that because i do not go out much (need to work on that) so i want try as much in the time that i do. Although i will be trying each combo for a week, i dont have the time or patience to test out each and everyone individually. I will increase or decrease the amount during the week to see what works and does not work.

Thanks for the advice again and hope you keep reading and continue to give me your inputs.

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My friend, the smellyman has made an excellent point. You have to try each one by itself first, only then will you see in what dosage each one works for you. I appreciate that you don’t have the time or patience (when I started, I didn’t either!) but believe me, if you just invest a few days of short-term pain (i.e. testing each product out individually), you will definitely have long-term gain (through opening more girls, having more fun with the products generally)

I remember when I first started out - I was so excited I read up on all the combos, put them all down in a spreadsheet and tried them all out. You know what? Nothing happened. That’s because each person has a different sweet spot. My sweet spot for ammo is 2 sprays. For others, equal age, it is 3 sprays. If I spray 3 times, I get an OD.

Good luck!

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Today did not go so well i was only able to test the mones in my class. Tried that combo and did not notice anything. The only thing that happened was that a girl sat behind me and kind of sniffed in and i think she might have got a wiff of the mix (maybe not) and less than 5 seconds later she gets up and goes to the seat in the next row across from me. During the class i thought i saw her look at me through her periherals a few times (not sure).

this class is gonna be hard to test any mones on because since its math class no one really talks. I guess i’ll have to try and go out to other places to try them.

I guess i’ll try each product out weekly.lol damn this is gonna be annoying and time consuming.

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just placed my order for IG and A314… been wanting these two for while and had to get them before the run out. I think im gonna cut myself off now i wont be purchasing anything in for the next month or so. I’m gonna work with this arsenal and home for some good results

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lol at getting lost and trying to find class. that sounds like such an IO adventure, i’ve done that a few times.

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update

went to wash my car today and sprayed one spray of IO did not really notice much. Later that night i went to class. This time i decided to try two sprays of Io but ended up spraying three (two the head one to the back of neck). Something strange happened though i did not dress up like i normally do, did not feel like it and most of my close are winter clothes its getting a bit warm out. So i just had on a soccer jersey, sweats and sandals.

Anyways so something strange happened. not sure if it was a hit because the girl was like 20 ft away. While walking to class this girl kept looking back at me at first i did not think much of it until she did it again and kind of stumbled on her heels. Mind you she was like 15-20 ft away i did not know what to do. She ended up going right and i had to go right.

As for the class a few things happened. i did not get a chance to survey and look for any IOI’s the only things worth mention that i came early today and i sat down in a different row this time. The girl who sat in front of me the last class walked in and looked at me then sat two seats ahead of me in the row i was in. The girl who i met on the first day walked in and toke a quick peak but looked back down because i had to copy recopy my homework. She sat in the next row a few seats behind me. Then the girl who was sitting behind me the first class that got up and moved and sat across from me comes in and sits behind me ( i did not know it was her until later). We said a few words to each other today. nothing major but i at least now i can say ive heard her voice and shes heard mine. There was a girl that sat in front of me who i conversated with and helped with a math problem. I think the IO that i sprayed on my head worked her because before the quiz she turned around and started to talk me asking if i was ready for it.

During class while i was looking around to see my surrounding i caught one girl looking at me. Our eyes met but i looked away. Toke it as a coincidence to so i did not bother to look back.

This class is proving to be not a good place to test out these mones because you can’t really talk in it and not much time to observe and see peoples reactions.

Good news is i will start work on saturday so i can test out the mones better because i will be able to interact more.

P.S. i actually want to try to conversate with the girl that i met on the first day but i dont know how to approach it cuz i dont know if shes interested or not but from that day she seems to be. Any suggestions on what i should do? or what i should try for class? i going to testing whatever it is alone no combos for the time being.

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lil update

IO x 3 - 1 to the wrist and two to each side of neck
IH x 3 - wrist

i think i found my spot for IO and maybe IH (i wanna test further though). I went shopping new work pants and i think i got a definite hit. The cashier seemed disorientated at my presence. I went to the line and there was receipt on the table so i ask her is that the last customer and she says in a low voice " oh no its mine" and then proceeds to ringing me up with her head down. She gives me my change and forgets to me the cash (wtf?) so i look at the receipt and look in my hand all i got was 2 cents. Then i look at her and tell her hey i think… and shes says oh and quickly opens the draw… so i laugh and ask her “long day so far?” and she laughs and says no, not really. I take the money say thanks, smile and leave.

The weird thing was that she cut me off before i could finish telling her that she forgot my change and she knew the right amount without me even saying it. i was alittle disappointed after when i drove off because i wanted to tell her “to give me her number as well” soemthing told me she would have gave it to me. oh well

P.S. just got my order of IG and Alpha A314 (the Alpha is was more expensive but is half the size???). Anyways im going clubbing tonight and want to try out a combo. I have not tested out each one out yet besides IO so i know what you use might be different from me but i just go out and have better time than last time. I’ll test further after to find my spot for the others.. Any recommendations on what combo to use?

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Great night last night. i think i have found my club mix. i tried the same exact mix from last friday but with lower doses. So IO x3 to head, IS x2 to jawline both sides, Ammo x1 to neck, TUTH 1 spray to chest. reapplication IO x1, IS x1

Now my times at the club before using mones have been hit or miss. I have like a good time 1 in every 5 times. The night started out great i went with a friend this time and we met up with some girls he knew in the club. I introduced myself,asked their names, gave mine and shook their hands and turned my back (we were on the top deck). 5 minutes later (no one is talking just looking at people dance on the dancefloor) i turn around and ask one of the girls (lets call her A) where are the from she smiles and she hesitates them tells me and i ask her where exactly that was (i’ve never heard of it) she tries to tell me but her friend (lets call her B) taps her on the shoulder, almost in disapproval. so i smile and tell my friend lets go dance. I turn and ask the girls if they are ready to dance yet, and B says no they want to wait for their friends. So again i smile say ok and we head off. literally 10 seconds in i pull a girl and start dancing, my friend comes and take her friend. i dance with like 5 other girls ( 2 of them were dancing close and leaning there head back and placing it on my chest basically)and two hour later i feel like im losing my scent because the dancefloor was really crowded and there were too many bodies (some smelled really musty girl and guy) i rubbed on just about everyone trying to get around. So i go and reapply some mones. i brought IO to go and Is to go. So i do IO x1 to neck, IS x 1 to jawline.

After this i could not get a dance for like a good 30 minutes got rejected like 3 times. I think i might have OD not sure still. Anyways 45 minutes later i was back and got a dance and then saw my friend and he was with those girls from earlier. so i went over and he was dancing with girl A and girl B was in from of girl A dancing. Girl A points for me to go dance with girl B so i go and we start dancing face to face them i turn her around and we start grinding. we dance for like 20 minutes and them i stop and take a breathier. Then 5 minutes later i leave and go dance with other girls. dance with like 4 other girls. I go back to where those girl were and my friend is not there anymore. I go there hang out with those girl. Girl A starts dancing on me so i start grinding. we dance for like 15 minutes and she starts gets really expressive in her dancing and she started to make faces like she wanted to fuck while she was dancing. Girl be looks back a few time during this and i catch her. We dance for like minutes and i stop and take a break and my friend comes so he starts dancing with girl A. after like 5 -10 minutes i pull girl B and start dancing he dance for like 15 minutes and she says “i would fuck the shit out of you.” lol i was like wdf and a bit taken back and then i told her “yeah ok” and then (this all happened in like 10 seconds) i thought about how someone posted here about a similar experience at a club when a girl said the same exact thing to him. So i say " whatchu got" and she starts trying to dance freakier lol but she was not a match for me (she picked the wrong black guy especially one with rhythm like me ). 5 minutes later she says im done i need water " tell her i told you so and she smiles. She says shes thirsty so i tell her i’ll get her the water she says no i can get it, i say its cool turn her to face the dancefloor and walk to get water. She then grabs a hold of my shirt as her lead the way.

Nothing much else happened i just danced with more girl and then me and my friend left. I should have asked for the number but i did not care that much i was having too much fun.

Side note - i noticed some aggressive comments and body language from this one guy after i reapplied the mones. someone stepped on my shoe (for the hundredth time ) and i said “wdf come on man” and then this guy say “cool down, its a club it happens” i tell him “its happened all night tho like he should look where he walks” the guy says “cool down its a club it happens” and he squares up to me almost like if i said a word he would have hit me or something. I just walked away because i was having fun and did not want to fight.

Also there was this girl that was there. She was there last friday too. She kept looking at me like last friday but i did not approach her last friday because alot of guys tried to dance with her but her and her friend would brush them off so i did not want to fall in that category. Instead i would look away whenever she looks at me and act like was nothing. yesterday she was doing the same thing and at times it felt like they were following me. When i left a place they would be at the new place that i was 2 minutes after me (several inches from me) every time. I finally had enough and went out to find her and catch her looking at me ( i was gonna tell her i saw you checking me out and go from there) but when i saw her she was looking at me but there was a guy with her hugging up on her so i left. I came back 10 minutes later and he was still there and i said f it and went on, i did not want to fall in the thread with the guys who go gaga when the see her and get played.

Overall -great night, one of the best times ive had at a club. Today made me fully believe that mones really do work. I was really social, i talked to alot more people than normally would. Those girl A and B were like HB6 or 6.5’s. Nothing specially but its starting point

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update

today i wanted to try out the Alpha A314. I have heard so much good things. I had a job orientation so i put one drop to the side of neck and dabbed it across the rest of neck. I did not notice anything much today. The other employees that were there with me were all in a good mood and we all talked to each in more depth. Something we did not do before.

Im gonna try it again tomorrow and my 2nd day orientation. But, i’m i doing something wrong or is this the usual effects. Maybe its because i have not found my niche with it yet.

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haven’t updated in a few days.

i think i went about this the wrong way. i just read the thread how to find your sweet spot and for the next 3 weeks im gonna follow it starting today till i find my spot for all the mones that i have.

i went to work today and used three sprays of A314, 1 IS, and 2 of IO. i sprayed thse around 7am its 2pm now. i have a night class and will take a shower ot wash off any residue that might be left before then. i want to try one spray of A314 tonight in class or do guys think i should wait till tomorrow?

i wont have class tomorrow and i dont work till saturday so i am trying to test these out on the days i have work or class. i don’t go out much aside from work and class (besides going to play soccer). let me know what you guys think? i have class at 5pm so like in 3 hrs.

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Since you reapplied IO and IS i doubt you od’d because they are two mones that are very hard to OD on even at high levels of sprays. It seems to me that when oding i just am wasting the mones rather than experiencing negative effects with IS. However, what may have happened is if it reacted with your body and you were sweating heavily the mones may have turned into some -none with the bacteria affecting them and could have added to the sexual tone of the ammo and tuth that you were already wearing.

This may have been the reason that females who are more sensitive to none were ghosting and females who were more turned on by higher none levels were then giving you more attention later in the night and you ended up getting the line from the one girl that made you be like wow did she just say that?

Just my .02 cents

But yeah definitely try to find your sweet spot with them as i was guilty of the same thing because of being excited and wanting to get great results with a bunch mixed together. So then you have to backtrack your steps and realize that you may have been wasting a bit of precious time and mones by not finding the ideal sprays for each mone.

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thanks for ut input man. i am at work now and im trying to find my sweet spot for a314.went to work at 2:30 today and tried to drop a drop on the back of my hand(i think this is the easiest way to apply for me way)and then apply to all areas of neck. i made amistake and two separate drops came out but i used one ofthe drops and applied all across neck. i wiped the other drop away with a tissue. i know its wasting but i wanted to tryonedrop today.

havent noticed much today people were nice to mw. theonly thing was one of myhibu came up to and told me that her husband wad from the sane country as me. lol it was weird i told her where i was from last week so it was weird. ill update this wrn iget homefully. im doing this all frommy phone.

also its like 7:30 now and i havent reapplied

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update.

this is my second day off mones after trying one spray of A314 on saturday (really trying to following this sweet spot thing to a tee). It was weird i had alot of people talk to me today and than usual. for instance i went to subway to get some lunch and while the lady was ringing me up a song on a radio came on (i think it was the fray) i started to sing it and out of no where the lady started to ask me “do you … do you work around here” i tell her no that i am taking summer classes around here. i tell where i actually go to school and she says oh wow. she continues to inquire and say thats good that im trying to finish up quick.

later on i go back to the library to finish studying and this guy from class who i see and give a head nod to whenever i see him in the library comes up and asks me if i got this problem and i tell him no and i go sit him. We do the work and we chat for liek 40 minutes before we both head off to class.

Now this is the class where no one really talks. We come in i take a seat. the girl muslim girl with the nice body comes in and i look her right in the eyes (something i havent done since the first day we met) and say “hey wassup.” she says hey and sits down right behind me.

  • lol note i dont know maybe it was the tuna sandwich i just had but i had a bad gas today during this class. i tried to hold it as best as i can but some gases ones came out and towards the end of the class some slightly noisy ones came off. It sucks not much i can do it happens*

She gets up 5 seconds later (think cuz i farted before she sat down and maybe smelled it) and sits in the next row a few seats back (where she normally sits). i see to my periheral of her looking at me and then she asks me if i got this problem correct. i tell her no but i know how to do it and i can help her with it. So i go help her (i smile and generally seem upbeat, and tease her a little for her answers). nothing really major in the convo. just a few chuckles from her and me dazzling her with my mediocre math skills.

The class generally was more upbeat and people were talking (maybe because it was test day). I ask some other peoples who i dont normally talk to for help on some problems.

The rest of the class went on and i found myself asking questions which is something that i normally never did.

During the end of the class i was talking to the kid from the library about a problem on the test i didnt get and the muslim girl comes up and says " are talking about the second problem" i smile and say yeah “i didn’t know what that was” “she smiles and says yeah me either” i turn and go back to talking to the kid and we leave.

So an interesting day without mones. It was a good day overall social… not so much academically i think i did bad on the test and i think i have a d or c in there now NOT GOOD. i wanted an A originally i gotta step it up and Ace the rest of my tests.

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i tried two sprays of A314 yesterday ( A weak 1st spray to the left side of neck and dabbed all around and a 2nd spray to wrist and dabbed to other wrist and neck and under the nose)

and got one really interesting encounter right after i sprayed it. I went to go sign up at a gym and there was this young girl at the counter i went up to her i told her i wanted to join and what kind of plans did they have (the sign outside said 14.95 per month).

she takes me over to the next counter and shows me the paper with the different plans (14.95 plan is for 1 yr contract… you end up paying 250 by the end of the year). i tell her i go to college and was just looking for a short term like during these 3 months. She tells me oh ok its 50 bucks per month and i have to give a months notice before cancelling… i started to laugh and told her wow.

She laughs too and says its a bit expensive. i tell her hold on a minute while i call my brother (he was the one that told me to go here) So i call him up and i make sure to speak in english (i speak other languages). After talking to my brother he tells me to forget that there is another gym where i can get a better price. like maybe 25 bucks per month. Anyways the minute i get off the phone i wave her goodbye and say thanks and try to leave she gives the one finger hold on (she was on the phone).

So when she gets off she asks if i can come back later today and i kind of just stare at her and then she tells me she just called her boss and he says theres better rates for students . i say oh really and she says yeah he just has to put them up. She then tells me to give her my number and i tell her it should be on the clipboard.(when i walked in she made me sign a clipboard with my info). She says oh ok so this is number and i say yeah… and then she asks how do i pronounce my name (i always get compliments on my name lol thank you mom and dad) and i tell her.

She says ok i will call you later when he brings the new rates and i say ok, smile and leave.

I did not get a call from her or her boss yesterday. Which leads me to a few conclusions. She may have did that to get my number or the fact that she overheard me talking to my brother about going to another gym made her call her boss (the power of competition).

Maybe the A314 made her see me in a high status and she did not want to lose me as a potential customer.

After that incident i wanted to go test out the mones more but i did not have any errands to run (even asked my mom if she need me to go somewhere for her). Nothing much else happened.

im gonna take a day off today and then try again tomorrow. i want to give a day off in between

Note got my shipment of pipettes and empty to go bottles from AD. So i made a to go bottle of IG and A314. For anyone having trouble applying the A314 like me this the easiest way. its now it a spray to go bottle and easy to apply. So when i said i sprayed this what i meant.

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update tried two sprays of A314 today again. i think this might be my sweet spot. gonna try three on saturday after taking friday off.

Anyways today was interest i tried 2 sprays of A314 today and went to sign up for a gym membership. nothing really much

Went to class later in the day and added 4 sprays on IO (2 to head and 2 to each forearm).

I went to the tutor office and sat in one of the seats and the guys that was there just starts talking to. He goes on to tell me that i can get better grades on my tests if i put the teachers name on it as well (lol i guess the IO is working)

I go to the library and my friend and this kid from my class comes. everyone is in a good mood. The kid from my class starts talking about how he takes books from his job and sells them on ebay (wdf lol ).

Went to class half hour later and reapplied A314 two much sprays to (one to neck and one to wrist… same as in the morning). Did not notice anything much. The only thing was that people in class were asking questions before (which they never normally did).

Another thing was that the teacher gave an incorrect answer and i corrected him and one student was like are your sure i and i told him yeah i did and everything and the guy says oh ok. Dunno if that was the A314 or not (he was in three seats up and in the next row)

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ok update

i tried A314 3x and IH 4x at work today. A314 one behind each ear and one on front of neck. IH two to each forearm. i reapplied both later on IH2x to wrist and A314 3x two behind ear and one under chin. I dabbed across from ear to ear

Did not notice much from the A314 again nor the IH at first. However the back of ear began to itch everyone once in while. Guess the A314 is irritating my skin.

Later on i got a few hits. Unfortunately i think this stuff seems to work on guys alot more cuz i keep getting guys looking at me.

One customer i was ringing up started telling a story about a lady in his neighbor when he was a kid who had dozens of cats it was a bit out there.

I did get what i felt was a hit from a lady customer mid 40’s. I asked her how she was doing as she was ringing me up she said great and asked me and i said tired, smiled and laughed. She then respond with a somewhat random reply. Telling me she has worked more at her house these past few days than at home. i just chuckle and smile… a bit odd.

One of my bosses today whom i have never met was really nice to me today whenever i called she came whatever i asked her she would respond in a nice and gentle manner. I dont know if that is the mones or if that was how she normally acted or it was the A314.

Also caught one of the younger manager looking at me a few times. Whenever i would call her for help and she would come help without being upset or anything. Yesterday before she put me on register she asked how old i was and i looked at her funny before i told her… didnt see what my age had to do with putting me on the register (another younger coworker asked me this).

Also another younger manager who i think is the best looking one there (i think mid 20’s) our eyes kept meeting everyone once in while when she would come by

note yesterday when i was coming in i saw her and she got her hair done and as i passed her i told her your hair looked nice and kept walking tall and she says thanks.

Another female coworker who spoke to me on the my first day asking me questions (didnt even know her she came up to me when i was on register) i caught her looking at me today too. When i was leaving the register i had to put back my return so i purposely went to the customer service where she was and asked do i have to sort these or can i leave them here with a smile (i knew the answer already). She says yeah and turns around i start laughing and say ok thanks she say you welcome and i go to the back to sort them. She comes in and basically does it for me (tell me where each one goes and even puts some back). After im done i smile say thanks and leave. The funny thing with her was that during this she had a blank expression, not upset or stern but just blank. She seems like one of those girl who’s life experiences has made them hard you know… like it would take alot to make her laugh. I felt in a way that was her way of showing attraction or maybe it was the A314 working.

Also about A314 how exactly should i acting. i want to make sure i am being congruent with the mones.

Nothing much else to report.

i had a question though. There is this girl cashier that was there she i saw her a few days ago and i was wearing my glasses that day and i caught her looking at me (the first day i saw her). Half hour later the girl is wearing her glasses. i did not make much of it. Then today i wear my contacts and she comes into work our eyes meet again. I try and catch her looking at me throughout. Caught her a few times (i think she might have felt me taking glimpses at her). The funny thing was that when she came in she was wearing her glasses today. half hour or hour in after we saw each other she does not have them on anymore. I dont know if this is a hit or if im just looking into something thats not there. i spoke to today though. i asked for her help in paging a manager and said goodnight to her as i was leaving she said bye i think (she was taking a customer