IG + IJ? Contradicting mixes?

Hello guys, I’m quite new here! I’m wondering what are the effects of IJ mixed with IG since there are both opposites, like gentleman and jerk, gentlemanly jerk?

And on that note, what happens when contradicting products are mixed? Will it give rise to some cofusion effect or will it complement each other or become neutral or what??

Just curious after thinking of what I can mix around, haha!

You will need a lot of IG to complement IJ because of the disparity in dose between them. Personally, the only pheros I’ve found worth pairing with IJ are high dose A314 and A1.

More generally, mixing incompatible pheros generally results in them both being weakened to the point where it is a waste of both products (eg IO/A314), or sending a confusing and unproductive signal that falls flat around people who would otherwise respond well to one or the other (eg MX297/A314) or that they become such powerful moderators that other components in a mix are near-completely drowned-out by them (eg P74/TAC around none). Of course, what pheros are going to be incompatible does depend on your own body chemistry and situation to some extent, so YMMV.

That makes sense, haha, but why is IO not compatible with A314?? I haven’t got my stuff to try out yet but I guess the bottom line is do what works for me through self experimentation eh? So I should actually give weird mixes a try depending on the situation just to see how it goes? Just worried that it may be hard to tell the effects of the stuff I have on since it’s going to be a first time :slight_smile:

IO simply weakens the A314 feel and IME, its not long before it wrecks it completely but at the same time, any A314 on you serves to block the effects of IO as well, so the whole mix becomes unproductive.

If you check the store page, even AD advise IO as the product to tone-down A314.

But yes, it can be hard to tell what one product does to another and how they work in combo - which is why it is best to give each one a go on its own first. That way you get an idea of how they behave individually, which leaves you in a much better position to judge combined effects. :slight_smile:

I see, so I should judge for myself more as I try it out because it depends on opinion as well. I guess in that sense, A314/IO can be seen as a waste as they negate each other in that way but at the same time I can’t deny to myself that it may be useful in some circumstances too. That’s why I’m so confused!

Well, I guess there’s no better teacher than experience. Will be looking forward to trying out myself soon!