I'm a newbie. Been using pheros for 2 days. Zero results so far. Any tips?

I’ve been using my recently received pheros for a couple of days now. It’s the first time I’ve ever used them. The first day I used 4 drops of A314 along with 3 spays of Ammo (double strength) and some instant openness. But no results. Today I used 2 drops of A314, 3 sprays of Ammo, acouple of spays of instant honesty, a couple of instant openness and a couple of instant female magic…yet I haven’t noticed any results.

Any tips?..I’m a 42 year old guy…but look/act about 10 years younger.

Thanks.

I suggest you go back to basic. Try one phero at a time to understand the effect.
Start with 1 drop/spray for a few days. If you don’t see result, increase accordingly until you find the number of drop/spray that work best for you.

Good luck

You just tried the “everything but the kitchen sink approach.” Like 007 suggests, you need to experiment with each product separately so you can establish a baseline: which one works for you under what circumstances and how much is needed. It took me several months of careful experimenting to gauge basic results and dosage, and years to fine tune, so be patient.

I’d suggest starting with the most social of the products, Instant Openness. Use it for a couple weeks in familiar social situations where you have plenty of close contact with people: parties, happy hour, church choir practice, etc. Try extra hard to start conversations and observe what happens. IO won’t force anyone to talk, but if they’re so inclined, IO should loosen their tongues. The most important thing to remember is pheromones do not invalidate social laws or freewill. They simply enhance your words and actions. If your behavior is passive or negative, nothing good will happen even if soaked in pheromones and a couple benjamins are taped to your forehead.

Jamesbonded and Gegogi have the best advice. Learn each product then combine them.

If you really can’t stop with the combos, less A314 (try 2 drops), 1 spray of Ammo (double strength), and 3-4 sprays of Instant Openness (I’m not sure what you meant by ‘some IO’ and ‘a couple of IO/IFM/IH’. I’ll assume 2 sprays.

But what would also help is if you told us how your days went when you were wearing the mixes. What did you do, how did you react to people. It wasn’t a completely dull day, was it? Context please. :slight_smile:

What kind of results do you want?

I get results even from 1-2 sprays alot of the time (to Go bottle sized). You have to know what to see, or you’ll miss it. Alcohol sprays in particular are fairly blatant.

You might notice things with Instant Openness, such as people around you talking more, people being more willing to talk to you, etc. It also makes you look more attractive

Instant Female Magic- this has a very specific effect and doesn’t work all the time on women. IMO it’s less useful and for some reason n00bs always grab it. I have two bobtles of the stuff in To Go size, barely touched. I think I should just return them. Plus for some men it’s negative to be around, like a really cloudy day kind of feeling.

Ammo- this makes you look fun and slightly sexy, and should make people slightly more talkative around you. Again, it has a very specific setting in mind, relaxed social settings like a bar or club, and won’t produce results you can see in all situations. It’s possible to OD on this and produce negative reactions.

A314- this one is more complex and since it’s oil based the effects are smoother and harder to see. It’s possible to OD on this and produce negative reactions.

Because its called Instant Female Magic. :slight_smile:

Ed

Thanks guys. Very useful advice!
Gegogi..thanks for the instant openness advice. And to Jamesbonded for your back-to-basics advice and to Daedelus76 for your OD warning. I wasn’t aware that you can OD on this stuff and end up creating negative results!

Yes..Phya. I’ll give you a context with regard to how my days have gone thus far. Thanks for the spray tips, btw.

I used a mix of pheros at work for a couple of days (I teach English as a second language to adults)…it’s hard to gage results as yet. I sarge a bit and did have a couple of positive interactions with strangers (one in the street during the day and one in which I joined a group of women sitting at a table outside a bar, early evening setting) but these didn’t lead to closes (the first girl had a BF..or so she said).

I’m going to follow the advice of toning down the number of phero sprays and leaving out Instant female magic. I might consider purchasing instant honesty instead.

I’m also going to experiment with using the pheros individually..although I prefer the idea of maximum gains and benefits derived from using combos.

Thanks again.

Well, good, we too perfer the idea of maximum gains and benefits from pheromones. The most important part in that, is knowing how you wear each product, and what doses are best for you. That in turn, will give you the experience you need to make better combos. :smiley: It’s like getting a new tool in your tool kit. You can make a masterpiece with it and your other tools, but you might need to practice it a bit before you are good with it.

In addition to alot of the great advice given above, I would also like to add the following thought: Patience! You’ve been using this stuff for two days, so relax and give your time to experiment. I really don’t recall getting any major hits the first day or two of using pheromones myself, asides from the obvious reason that it takes a while to find your “sweet spot” it’s also worth noting that it takes a while to begin to develop the sensitivity to observe slight differences in the social interactions of those around you.

Nine times out of ten the hits you get off wearing pheromones are usually subtle things like increased eye contact, or people being slightly more friendly than usual. And with a something like A314 it’s often times the hits are what people didn’t say to you as opposed to what they did say.

Unfortunetly one spray of Ammo isn’t going to turn you into one of The Beatles circa 1964. So my advice is to relax, be patient, be very aware of your interactions with others.

Thanks again for all the extra advice. I guess I should be patient. I suppose I’m looking for a magic bullet to solve all my problems with getting hot women (maybe I’m too fussy as well!) interested and reacting positively to me instead of being either totally indifferent or telling me they ‘have a boyfriend’.

I’ve been on Mystery Method bootcamps, tried Juggler method, etc. Seen David D dvds..but remain single and unhappy about that status. I then stumbled across the whole pheromone thing. If PUA is a subculture, this seems to be a subculture of that subculture..in some ways. Perhaps I’m wrong about that. I’m pleased I stumbled upon it anyway. I just need to experiment with it all.

I don’t think pheromone users form a distinct subculture any more than those that wear designer jeans or love to travel. This ain’t religion or tribalism. pheromones are a natural part of life and help enhance and define human relationships. Unfortunately modern hygiene washes most of our natural pheromones away. So we give mother nature a little help. Think of it like watering and using fertilizer so your garden grows to its full potential, rather than leaving it to the ravages of weather.

Also you should realize most of us use pheromones for the full spectrum of its functions, not merely for PUA BS. I’d wager most users find the social and professional aspects of pheromones the most useful. Unfortunately you mainly find posts from horny young men trying to increase their love life, so you can easily get the wrong impression. Pheromones are great for enhancing respect and a chain of command, increasing presence in a business meeting or making new friends, male or female. You can only get laid so much and once you’re in a committed relationship you’ll find pheromones just as useful for human relationships in general.