Sorry for the contentious thread title. I wanted to attract some attention for my current experience.
So, I’ve been pursuing this girl who is in my cohort at grad school in the US. (A little background, I’m Singaporean Malay, and she’s American of mixed black and white parentage. I’m 27, she’s 22 and quite obviously not very experienced with men.) We’ve been seeing each other outside of class lately. I’ve met her for coffee/ice cream/tea 4 times. It’s hard to move on cos she’s very recently broken up with her boyfriend.
I could see from the start that she was attracted to me, but was clearly uncomfortable or nervous around me. I’ve been moned up (of course!) with various products like Chikara, SOE and more lately, Instant Shine, NPA (not often) and IFM and Instant Honesty. The thing is, once, last week I went phero-naked and she seemed to be more at ease with me. So I tried an experiment, I’ve went phero-free for two weeks and then put them on again this week. In the two week phero-break I took, I could see that we were moving forward much better and then this week, she’s not been very friendly. My decision now is to stop using mones, at least around her.
What do you guys think of this situation? One possible explanation is that the mones confused/scared her because of the ‘unnatural’ levels of attraction she felt. One more could be that it’s just pure coincidence.
Yes, I did find that with friend too. Like recently move into a new place {Sharing with a chick not dating her} the chick is really sweet and happy ( 2 x Ammo ) when I met her…
She seem a bit different / Confuse, When I’m not wearing pheromones, when I do start wear ammo however she way more talkative.
Seem like they don’t know what to expect of your pheromone signature.
The point I was trying to convey; that people that you know are comfortable to your pheromone but when you start having different pheromones signature. They start to get confuse, about how they feel about your different signature all the time… but when your signature is the same for the most part they get used to it and act some what normal.
Maybe she started to clam down, when you not using the other pheromones. She like being around your natural pheromone…
yeah, i don’t know how to gently say this but pheros should be an 18 year old and up, for that reason. it can cause more problems than its worth in the most perfect situations. there is a awareness one has to have with one’s self. in short gemfire you have what it takes, this isnt childs play
Ah! I see. But I’ve only recently met this girl and I’ve been on mones from the VERY FIRST TIME I met her. So, she never did know what my own phero signature was like. She was uncomfortable from the start. Maybe it was the changing products that confused her, but even from the very beginning, she was uncomfortable.
But so yes, maybe she likes my natural phero sig better,
in which case, it is meant to be!
Gemfire, You’re target girl is same age as mine. They both seem to react in similar manner and I’ve been doing a lot of research on this subject. Only difference between you and I is that you used pheros ever since you met her, but I started using 10 months after I’ve known her (however, we live far away from each other and only seen each other during the long term business trip in an interval of several weeks). Far as I know, she was very friendly with me before I used pheros, but started to act like a stranger when I started to use it. I learned to find couple mixes that tend to work on her, but in general -none tends to bring out this “stranger” effect.
Sometimes I wonder, after observing her reactions, that she might be acting strange because she’s trying to suppress her true feelings or desires (ex. her words say something, but her body language is saying something completely opposite). I found good results with:
subtle, good feeling, comfort, happy: 30mcg of P74 + 30mcg pf P79 + 1 spray of 2x IS (optional 2 sprays of IFM).
OR
2 drops of A314 + spray of 2x IS + 2 sprays of 4x IH (optional 2 sprays of IFM).
Sexual, take away at least some of free will, serious: 2 sprays of Pheromone Proof (MX101) + 2 drops of A314 with cover scent (Chrome or Aqua di Gio)
OR
2 drops of A314 + 2 sprays of MX149.
Those 4 mixes above have shown me consistent results and I use those mixes based on my desires and what I kind of effect I want to get from her on certain days or occasions.
I’m not sure about what you mean about the 18 thing seeing we’re both in our twenties.
I’ve been using pheros for nearly a year now, and I know it isn’t child’s play. I’ve used it with plenty of other women who have reacted to it. In the end, I realise I’m not really a player, but I wanted to use it with this girl because I do really like her. I know that I have what it takes if things were normal, but because I’ve been lacking confidence since my big break up last year, I wanted a leg up. Especially since I am an Asian Asian in America now. I guess I shouldn’t be using mones with this girl anymore. I’m pretty sure I’m enough.
I would like to add that this girl is an anomaly. I’ve had positive to very positive reactions from other women on pheros.
I might be getting ahead of myself here, but perhaps she is one of those rare people you meet who likes you most the way you are. Maybe our natural phero sigs just happen to match. Gentleman, I may have just hit the jackpot here.
That is possible. There was this one asian gal that I was dating at one time that was super sensitive to (she hinted at this) colognes and pheremones as well. The normal dose of SOE that would make 99% of the women around me happy, flirty, and talkative would make her wrinkle her nose in disgust and say, “OMG. Someone around here is wearing too much cologne.”
I never did get to try unscented SOE around her. APC, a very dilute -none product, was actually very effective around her in low doses.
There was this one time, at the end of the night that she came up to me and gave me this long hug. She buried her nose next to the side of my neck and said, “Mmmm . . . you smell so good . . . .” I actually wasn’t wearing any mones that night.
Some girls can have a completely opposite reaction to what we can expect. It’s the case for my girlfriend… Very, very bad reaction to IFM, not very confident when I’ve been wearing TUTH for a short time.
Have you tried to see how she reacts after a few hours of you wearing pheros ? Don’t put pheros right before meeting her, but a few hours before (about a couple) look at the result and tell us… TUTH can be very effective when the smell is fading…
I try to be moneless around my gf as much as possible since we started to get really involved. Things have been great, and I don’t feel as deceptive internally.
I think this: just as there are differences in phero production, there are differences in phero sensitivity.
My experiences suggest to me that some black women are much more sensitive to pheros … or perhaps they are just more visibly responsive … or perhaps it’s my perception.
So perhaps you might try 1/10th of the dose you’ve been applying – get some alcohol and dilute – and see if she responds favorably to a ‘dialed down’ level of pheros.
One last possibility comes to mind. She may not believe that she’s doing anything to “produce” that reaction in you. This is a kind of “catholic girls and black patent leather shoes” sort of belief, because it’s likely that she will realize at some point that she doesn’t have to “do” anything to get a male sexual reaction.
But … if that’s her mindset, she may think the cause/source of the pheromones is related to YOU being involved with other women.
In which case, even minute amounts might put her off.
