Hey, I’m Dave. I’m 21, a caucasian male, 5’11" and I consider myself fairly good looking (I once had a lady tell me I looked like the illegitimate love child of Donny Osmond and Timothy Dalton).
I’m not too interested in stuff like TUTH or IJ. I get plenty of IOI’s as it is, I’m a good looking guy, I’ve got good posture, wide shoulders, etc. The problem is after I try to open them. As the conversation goes on I can slowly see them lose interest and get bored. I know I have the whole nice guy personality going on, which I’m slowly starting to shed, but I have been told by friend that I’m kind of a hard guy to talk to. I have now idea why, I’m not judgmental, I’m not really aloof, I tried asking my friends about it and they just say I don’t know, you just aren’t.
So far the only mones I’ve used are the ones in the Dial Magnetic bodywash. I’ve only been using it for a few days, so I really can’t say if its effective for me or not yet. In fact thats how I found this place. I bought it mainly for shiggles, and googled it to see if it worked or not. First result was a conversation on it here.
So the goals are to at least seem like a guy women can talk to, and it would be perfect if the had the self effects of making me more of a conversationalist, or am I swing for the fence here?
I’m thinking something like IO or IS might be the thing for me, but $100+ a bottle isn’t quite in the budget for me. I’m thinking about getting some IG or AMMO summer instead. Thoughts?
Oh and I live in Orlando. It gets pretty damn hot, but its always high humidity too, so I’m thinking the spray will do me good. Is that a correct assumption?
For ‘shedding’ that nice guy vibe, I would steer you toward AMMO. IG’s primary mone component is -rone which is more of a fatherly/nice guy mone. Not helpful if you want to steer away from that.
AMMO also has -rone as well, but much better balanced for a sexy man vibe here. I also get a confident to be in my own skin vibe with it. It’s easier to take to a it to ‘more than a friend’ territory. Now, if you have others not being able to converse because your a ‘hard guy to talk to’, I would also include IO. Gets the bubbling forth of convo’s especially for those you just met. If you want more ‘depth’ to the convo’s I would swap out IO with IH.
I would also ask that you take a look at IJ. Because of the Nice Guy personality that you’re trying to shed, IJ may balance you from the other end of the spectrum to give you a friendly bad boy vibe… You’ll still need to steer these with your attitude and convo’s.
As to the heat, I would say that you may need to apply more often, but, the effects will still be there.
Right on. Come payday I think I’ll get a bottle of AMMO summer, which IIRC is basically AMMO buffed by IS right?
As for the steering conversations, I’m trying to figure out how to do that better. I was always that kid in the back of the class that never really talked to anyone because, IDK I never really felt the need to.
I know mones aren’t a magic bullet for this, but what helps helps right?
Nope - Summer Ammo has P130 and TAA, which is the main component of IS.
However without the IS steering it has a different feel - More happy and laid-back pleasant, wheras IS imparts a more forward/brighter happy/feelgood air.
P130 is also a very comforting/none moderating phero and whilst Summer Ammo is a great daytime sexy/social phero, I think it might be a little too light for your situation. However it will be good for sparking interest/conversation etc but you may need something a little more ballsy for night time. Standard Ammo ir even the addition of a little TUTH might be needed here.
Alright. I think I’m going to go with standard AMMO initially, save up for a while and get IH and then some TUTH (I take it TUTH is a little too much for day game, I’m not much of a night guy just ain’t my element). I’ll use AMMO and IH during the day, and then add some TUTH to the mix for dates and a tad more for clubs and parties.
Sounds like a plan… When you start combining products, I suggest you journal your experiences in the Men’s section to keep in mind what these different combinations do for you and those around you.
It’ll also help in the Research of these molecules for AD to continue to provide better products for use to try out!
The men on this forum have become experts when it comes to getting you out of this dreaded friend zone and getting you where you want to be with the ladies.
I am glad you came to us and know just like many others we will be able to help you
You’ll still need to steer these with your attitude and convo’s.