In search of the perfect P83 and P86 combo

Boy! Am I a searching MOFO!

All through the Mad Tater’s Journal and then some. Tater’s J being the be resources. Have I got loads of questions … Tish, darling, you’ve witheld evindence, and I want it … at least the mcgs, if you can recall. With that being said, will you, Flaming, and Steveo, please brain storm your past for me. I’m trying to make that perfect order. Wish that Tater would raise his head, wipe the mustard from his lips and donate. Would really like to have the best mcgs per spray and ratios for wearing P83 with P86.

There’s lots of different ideas on P83 … use little, I use a lot, up the mcgs, lower the mcgs.

My key notes:

1) The sense of urgency you get from P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) can easily work as a negative. If somebody wants to do something, 25mcg is like sticking a scorching hot brand to them. Sometimes this means that a small thing turns into a huge argument followed by “I dont know why that bothered me so much.”

P86 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) is STILL the sensuality, TOUCH ME, phero but Tater is changing his definition of P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314). Its not TOUCH ME NOW. Its GO AHEAD AND DO IT in an irritating way. Just like P79, MEO-EST and TAF, Tater does not recommend wearing it alone since a lot depends on the phero signature youre already giving off. Tater wore 50mcg of P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314).

Also noticed that 100mcg can take a low-grade unconfessed attraction and turn it into irritation. It created tension but it came out as annoyance. I think you need to be in the right environment for that tension to work for you.

2) I used two sprays of P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) (total: 25mcg) on my neck and one spray ammo 1.0 on my wrists (not the pulse side) … result was this girl really was attracted and interested in me like crazy, smiling at my jokes and other stuff I told her … (PHOENIX)

3) I got turned off P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) by flamings description of what his gf said about feeling like she was caught in a spider’s web…though I can’t remember what the exact dose was that prompted that response/feeling. I know that he/she had a better reaction when he tried it again at a lower dose. Am I on track flaming? (BELLA)

The day my girlfriend made this comment i was wearing 3x 12.5 p83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) two sprays applied to the front of my neck and one spray to the back.

the second time i only used one 12.5 spray and that was to the back of my neck…this time it made for wild intense sexual effects. Since that time iv worn the lower dose to good effect but i always make the p83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) a minor player in a mix. (FLAMING)

4) I love P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) I got it in a big bottle and upped the MCG though. I have tested it on countless subjects both male and female and of course on myself and that hypnotic seductive erotic result occured each time. I do have to admit you need to be in the right enviroment when testing it. I tested it in laid back party type enviroments and work.

In a leasure type enviroment inhibitions flew out the window. People did things that I cant repeat here. I thought ok this has got to be a fluke and tryed it again at the next party with the same results.

Out in a everyday mix where people have to watch there behavior its erotic but you can almost see people holding back because they need to check there behavior. I have had a lot of displaying. People showing me there gym abs and actually flexing for me. (One funny story) We were talking about the gym at work and one guy yelled out hey Tish look at this and pulled his shirt up and flexed his abs. Postmaster had a fit. I have noticed women in my group preen and begin to move in a seductive manner.

Its good stuff, on its own its a bit raw, mixed with the right mones it’s powerful voodoo. (TISH)

Tish, darling, give up the info …

How many mcgs per spray did you up to?

How many sprays did were you wearing?

5) Regarding p83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314)… yes Bella as Tater says there is a kind of target dosage so initially i used to much with my GF 37.5 mcg .Later i scaled down to 12.5 mcg and got a very erotic response.

I gotta test it more but im liking p83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) so far (FLAMING 40-y-o)

Flaming, did figure out your magic dosage for your girl?

How old is she?

Were you using just one spray of the 12.5 mcg or were you using more sprays and 12.5 worked better than a higher mcgs per spray bottle?

6) I used my very last bit of P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) last night. 25 mcg total. I wanted to test it in an more open environment such as a mall in which case I did. I was waiting on some friends as I was a bit early for our weekly Lair roundup. I happened upon a young lady from another country. She was dressed ultra-conservative with the kind of glasses you might see on a librarian. They were thick black rimmed and very nerdy. She was nerdy! PERFECT for my testing.

As I’ve mentioned before I believe P83 releases animalistic urges in the most reserved people. She was in town as a tourist to see Sun Studios and other Elvis memorabilia. It didn’t take more than a few moments to have her hooked and number in my phone. I got the feeling there was an open invite to join her in her hotel room when she asked if I wanted to see the lingerie she just bought. Uhmm she wasn’t talking about just showing it to me but she was asking if I could help her break it in. I’ll leave it at that! (STEVEO)

If any one has a good dosage for wearing P83 with P86 … please post your thoughts/ideas.

**Thanks one …thanks all! :stuck_out_tongue: **

Weeeeeeee Tish! :roll_eyes:

You really have to be careful with P83. It’s definitely something you can’t use in all environments, and must be buffered well. It’s like injecting the Id part of the psyche of the people around you with steroids, and having it dominate the superego. Which results in stronger instinctive urges, sex, aggression, and other primary processes. The higher dose you use, the more repressed your moral compass insisting on socially acceptable behavior becomes. This can also result in strong headaches if in high doses.

EDIT: Unfortunately I have not yet had a chance to test out P86, so I’d have to hold off on any thought on it.

That sounds similiar to Tater’s explanation of the hot iron. Can you give a tad bit more on your usage and the dosages used, Tmoz?

Hey Mr M, here’s as close as Tater ever got to posting actual dosages:

The rest of that little conversation is in the posts right around the link.

I second the motion for SteveO to give up the results of his experiments with these two, and whether or not Tater’s ratio gave him any results.

Thanks, Ren! I have that in my Tater’s notes, I just didn’t post it … posted the good stuff.

I’m waiting for Tish to peep in and give up how much and how she wore P83 during her testing period! :stuck_out_tongue: Her stories sounds more potent than Tater’s.

When that was posted I was using 12.5 mcg at about 3 sprays.

The last bottle I got I bought at 25 mcg and I use it when I mix or wear 2 sprays. I will go higher on dosage depending on the situation. I havnt worked with this one much so I am not ready to report more.

Hot tub part at Janes that I posted about people getting naked there must have been 4 to 5 sprays of 12.5 in the room.

Poker party that I reported on was about 2 to 3 sprays if I recall correctly.

I havnt had any headaches from this dosage.

IMO its very much dependant on what other pheromones your wearing with it.

If your wearing a sexual mix it can push it toward being more erotic

If your wearing a fun mix it turns into sexy fun…

Sorry it took so long yesterday was my anniversary and I was busy LOL

Tisha

Thankya, darrrrrling! And congrats on your Anniversary … may you see many more wearing a smile. :wink:

Hmmm..that clears up a couple things for me. Thanks. It makes sense now what happened when I added p83 to a mix of mostly socials. Mostly just grab ass and a lot of laughing. Sexy fun. :smiley:

How long have you been playing with P83, Phya, and how much do you normally apply?

Thanks!

Not very long, in fact only once, and that was 25 mcgs, along with a whole bunch of other stuff. I wrote about it somewhere here. Lemme see..

That’s the part you’re probably interested in. To add a little to that, it really actually slowly built up. First he was just really touchy and hanging on the shoulder of my friend’s dad. But then after the parents and older guests left, the girls started dancing with each other. Then they started giving each other lap dances, learned a little salsa, and so on. It began to get outta hand around the time my shit faced friend, sitting on the couch, reaches up and grabs two girls, one in each arm, and pulls them down onto the couch…well sorta more onto him, onto the couch. From that point, it just completely got out of control. This is keeping in mind that I wasn’t really in their presence for the prior hour with the p83 on. It was only till after I rejoined them that things kinda turned this way.

Also, I didn’t mention it to the Dr when I was talking about body language, but he had was actually invading my space to the point where I had literally backed up 3 feet. The thing is that it happened over an hour or so, so he had no idea. The only reason I realized at first was because I noticed I had to reach further and further for my drink. :smiley:

I haven’t been in too many situations where I’d feel comfortable sending out that kinda vibe since then, especially if what I’ve seen so far is any indicator of what p83’s capable of.. :slight_smile: