Instant Female Magic feedback: 2 sprays for an old girlfriend's surprise visit

step out of my shower today and an old girlfriend is sitting on my couch.
i had no idea this woman was coming over, i was expecting another woman but not until later this evening.

due to the unexpected nature of the visit, i had no time to bring out my tray of goodies and tailor make a brew for her, so IFM it was. i sprayed one full spray to my chest and one half spray to the inside of each elbow, so 2 sprays total.

this was done in the bathroom so that she wouldn’t observe or get a massive dose all at once. this stuff must be covered. within 5 minutes or so i kept flashing back to my grandparents texas goat ranch. thousands of goats. i was beginning to get worried because i had no idea what i could use to cover it. what i ended up deciding was to go with a cheap cologne, and when i say cheap i am referring to the kind of cologne that is ALWAYS there, sometimes for a day or more without ever changing levels, all i had to choose from in that category was joop,jako and polo and i ended up going with polo. i dabbed polo on each side of my lower neck and 1 dab to the inside of each forearm (not covering the IFM which was sprayed to the inside of each elbow).

i have no idea where the polo went. even after just a few minutes the polo had completely disappeared, as if the IFM had eaten it for breakfast and was growling at me, ready for lunch.

this made me pretty self conscious, because at this point there was no way i could wash anything off and i had no idea if i could approach her and be physical.

before i go and write a novel here, this woman hates me. or, to be a little more accurate, she hates how easily she gave it up to me initially, and tries constantly to make me work harder and harder for her approval, so i never give her any impression that i want anything from her. this infuriates her even more and she bitches at me constantly so i tell her to go home.

we have had a sexual relationship like this for almost 18 months now.

my hand slips from her waist to between her cheeks and she backs away from me, so i just walk away and go into the next room as if nothing happened and then she comes and sits next to me. lol. constant back and forth. she knows she comes over for the sex but she wants me to fawn all over her and want her so that she feels desirable, so i don’t.

she’ll get a phone call on her cell from another guy while she is with me and she gives the other guy the sexy voice, so i reach over and pinch her nipple but instead of being offended and leaving she’ll tell the other guy she is busy and will call him later.

we will be at a store and she’ll pick out women for me, “there’s a pretty one for you”, she’s also tried to set me up with her sister but i’m of course not interested.

and she keeps coming back.

this is how its been for the last 18 months or so with her.

i wanted to give some detail about her before i went into what i perceived as reactions to the IFM. as i said previously, i was very nervous to be close to her because i couldn’t cover the IFM as well as i would have liked.

she had a smile on her face the entire time, not a smile as in happy to be alive kind of smile, but the mischievious teenager (she’s in her 30’s) playful smile of a girl that desperately wants to play. i stepped into her space and she said “hey, that’s my space” so i said, it’s mine now. she didn’t move. i reached up and put my hand on the back of her neck and used my fingers to comb up through her long hair.

she got goosebumps immediately, everywhere. she twitched instantly, almost like a convulsion and bent over halfway with her head at an odd angle but the whole time the wicked smile never left her face. i grabbed her hair and pulled up gently but forcefully to make her stand up directly in front of me, the whole time i’m still very self conscious about the IFM but she hadn’t made a single comment.

she was totally ready for me to give her one of those totally passionate sloppy wet kisses at this point so i kept my eyes focused on hers while i kept my mind focused on sex, not making love in a sweet gentle way where you cuddle afterwards but animalistic sweaty sex that could give a girl a reputation :cool:

she was pretty easy at this point, her mouth opened just a little bit anticipating my next move, and i already have another woman coming over this evening that i’ve wanted to sample for a while so i just casually asked her what brings her over to my place without calling me first while i turned and walked into my kitchen.

anyway, to keep a 10,000 word story below 5k, i played with her for a little bit since she hadn’t given me any negative reaction to the IFM and no matter what i did, she had that teenage grin on her face and all i can think of to describe it is the inexperienced girl who wants desperately to have it but can’t find a way to ask for it, physically or verbally.

i would put my hands on her in a very sexual, provocative manner and she would say “doooooon’t” but be smiling the entire time and moving her shoulders and head away but not her body. i put my hand between her legs and she said “heeeeeey” with the same smile, same tone but this time pushed my shoulder away, not the hand that was between her legs.

well, i had to go to the store and get dinner stuff so i left and she left but not without asking me what i was doing tonight, do i want to watch a video with her etc. i told her i already had plans for tonight but she can call me tomorrow if she wants.

to sum it up, she was completely playful and innocent whereas for the last 18 months we’ve been hooking up it has always been an adult game of hers, trying to make me want her, always trying to be just a little out of reach in what i guess to be overcompensation for me getting it so easily in the beginning.

now, i have someone coming over for a late supper and i am racking my brain trying to come up with something to cover this IFM because seriously, i’m sitting at my comp now writing this and every time i sit up straight i get a whiff of goat. if you have ever been on a real goat ranch you know what i am talking about.

i will probably not spray this stuff on my chest again, and i will probably go back to 1 spray total but spread between my wrists and back of neck. i’m not sure what EO will be able to cover this stuff but she offered no complaints either verbal or physical , in the past, she asked me if i had taken a shower in cologne (2 sprays of curve for men) when i had been sampling that scent for a possible pheromone cover scent so i know that she does have the ability to smell.

my first test general reaction is that the product could either be called IFM or Space Invader. i guess it could also be called goat ranch but that would have to be marketed to a completely different demographic. :open_mouth:

well it seems as if mother nature conspired against me last night, creating road conditions that weren’t conducive to a 45 minute each way drive for her to come to dinner. ended up at the irish pub sipping guinness and being bummed because i had turned down a primed and ready woman to try and have a different one. a bird in the hand…

anyway, when i got up this morning i intended to give myself a nose check and see how powerful the IFM had lingered, if at all. the pub was smoky and i had to have long shirt and pullover on due to the cold inside. i pulled my shirt up over my nose to see if i could notice the previous days direct spray to chest and couldn’t really notice anything. tried a hot shower without soap and when i was towelling off i realized that i could detect the sprays to the insides of my elbows. obviously nowhere near the initial sprays intensity and probably easily coverable.

i have 4 bottles of EO’s , sandalwood,patchoulli,frankincense and clary sage , besides various bottles of colognes and spray deodorants like axe.
i’m probably going to try several combos of sandalwood/patchoulli and sandalwood/frankincense for a cover in the future when i have more time to work on covering it and not just spur of the moment spraying.

i was replaying yesterdays interaction with her in my mind and have nothing over our history to compare it to. when we first met she was very flirtatious with me but never has she been innocently flirtatious. in the beginning it was always the same, making very sexual references, lifting her skirt to show me her thong panties, touching me every time she walked past me etc. so she has always been flirtatious but in control, yesterday she was both innocently flirtatious and rather submissive which is a big change for her. after i initially took advantage of what she was offering me, she’s dropped the flirtatious altogether and tried instead to show me that she is in control etc.

anyway, that innocent flirtatious and submissive attitude was both refreshing, unusual and a stark contrast to her previous behavior so i have to find a way to cover this and repeat with her and others and see if i can get something close to those same responses again.

Great reading. I think your perceptions are just great. Keep it up!

We can try another blend of IFM for you on the house, to see if we make it a little easier on your own preceptions. I didn’t compound the bottle you received, but IFM should be next to odorless.

the first time i opened that bottle (remember the “if that stuff is unscented i’m going to get my nose checked” comments :smiley: ,only to find out that unscented means something completely different here haha), i had a stronger reaction to this stuff than any other pheromone product i’ve tried. that isn’t good or bad or meant to infer anything of the sort.

when i smell the open bottle i find it really hard to describe because it isn’t odor neutral, it isn’t musky and it apparently isn’t scented, either.

i do have a nose for goat though. spending quite a bit of time in my earlier years at my grandparents ranch watching, feeding and yes, castrating, thousands of goats will etch a scent memory on even the dullest of descriptive abilities. :slight_smile:

if i had a better nose for the complexities of odors i would not hesitate to try and do a better job of describing it. i have always just chosen colognes based on womens comments. i can’t describe polo or acqua di gio either i just know that if a woman likes it she will get closer, if she doesn’t she will create distance. whether last nights reaction (or rather, non reaction) to what i perceived to be a very strong odor is par for the course, only time and testing will tell. her reaction was very interesting to me as i have a pretty long history with her and this is the first time i’ve seen that specific type of behavior from her.

Hmm. I understand. Wow, goats…

Also, the offer is open if you want to try an IFM compounded directly by me. Might always be a little EO in there. I won’t know for certain unless it passes through my hands.

Yes, it is fascinating that this new behavior was generated. Very promising.

How did it affect you? Besides the odor, that is?

Also, related to what you were saying above, which colognes tend to create closeness for you?

i appreciate the offer but the product generated something that i believe to be a very significant response, in that it, or something about the way the planets were lined up :slight_smile: , completely modified her behavior.

keep in mind i know this woman well. we have been through the innocent sex, timid sex, exploratory sex, public sex, disinterested sex, make up sex, shit, everything probably but the rough sex and what she exhibited while i was wearing the two sprays of IFM was completely new behavior.

i’m still trying to factor in the personal effects of synthetic pheromone use. whether it was the marketing and advertising of the early pheromone products or not, until the last 6 months or so i only expected to see results (or lack of) through another person.

i can say without hesitation that i was in no way more aggressive than usual with her, i wasn’t any more cheerful than usual and i wasn’t bummed out until i found out a couple hours later that i wasn’t going to be getting any from the new woman and i had already turned down the old one. :frowning:

i am learning though to be aware of monitoring my own personal emotional state when adding synthetic -mones so future reports will probably be much more precise, concise and outta sight :cool:

ok, i have never been an avid cologne wearer even though i always have bottles lying around. usually when i hear a woman say “i love that smell” i tend to pick up that product and put it in my cabinet for the next time i am going out with her, fully realizing that what smells good on someone else may not smell good on me, and also running the risk that i will smell like an ex boyfriend of hers.

the strongest reaction i have ever received from a woman regarding a scent that i was wearing came about from a conversation about colognes when an ex fiancee of mine made a comment about some cologne product i can’t remember the name of now, but, to paraphrase, it went like this…

“it’s ok, but it won’t make me share your pillow like that obsession does.”

i don’t brand myself with anything. in other words i am not a Ford or Chevy guy, not Coke or Pepsi, etc. however, i have always kept a bottle
of obsession around just in case that particular scent worked for me.

The shop you had looks closed, and I’m waiting to hear about the new store… meanwhile I’m hearing about cool products like Instant Female magic. What’s in it? Where can I sample/buy?

For now, while the store is still under heavy construction, you can give me a call at 800-671-6464 and I’ll get IFM into your hands TODAY. (or, at least, I’ll get it into the box that will get into your hands, today :slight_smile:)

And to josef, thanks for the report, it is fantastically written. Completely riveting. I know what it’s like to be that girl and it’s gut-wrenchingly AWFUL!!! pounds fist at you!

well i kind of consider myself responsible, in a way, to provide enough detailed information about the interaction so that others can have a more solid basis for decision making.

i’m sure anyone that has used a synthetic pheromone product has seen enough of the “i was gettin’ mad hits yo, all the bitches in the club was up on my jock, i took 4 back to my crib shit i could have taken them all home but my sound system fills the trunk” hit reports.

i’ve also seen enough advice about “well, you can’t expect any results from people you know, you have to try it out on people you don’t know” to make me wonder if everything in the entire industry is just snake oil.

the reason i was very impressed with IFM was because it (or some other obscure unknowable coincidence) modified what has become a very predictable behavior pattern. a simple “hit report” wouldn’t do that justice. we’re not buying burgers here, whether you’ve ever eaten at mcdonalds or not, you know what to expect. synthetic pheromones are a completely different story.

Yes, the vendio store is now closed. The new shop will be up shortly.

Thanks for your interest.

Ha!

I think (no, I know) a lot of people selling pheromone products ARE snakes :slight_smile: (look at the crazy claims!), but pheromones themselves certainly aren’t snake oil. It’s just nature. They create many social effects, not all of which are consciously know to us yet.

Now, if approach pheromones as a valid technology, we can get very far with them. That’s what we hope to do here.

Some pheromones certainly do affect people you know.

The problem with people you know, in general, is that after awhile they get used to how you are. Like a movie star, they “type cast” you.

So, no matter how you change (regardless of whether it’s new pheromones, a haircut or a whole new attitude), they’ll tend to either:

a. mentally discard the change (putting the blinders on), or
b. notice and abreact to it.

Parents especially apt to tend towards b) when it comes to pheromones. (“where’d my baby go???”)

Great point!

Something ubiqituous like burgers, at this point, are well known and predictable… especially McDonald’s burgers. Food is as old as we as a people are, but cooked food isn’t. Nor are recipes.

In fact, there’s still new recipes made every day. People are always “hungry” for new and interesting ways to eat food.

While we’ve always had pheromones (because each of us has always made our own), we’ve just begun to take control of our pheromone signatures. Just begun to have the ability to make our own recipes. To cop a Burger King phrase, to “have it our way”. :slight_smile:

I can’t help but think that some of the new pheromones, and concepts like dosing, will be similar in a way to the invention of fire. Fire gave us newfound control over what we eat, how and when. It was a culinary revolution, that actually helped society evolve.

Well described, well dosed pheromones, too, should also start a revolution in how we treat this aspect of our lives. Exciting stuff!!

I may add at least one EO that mimic pheromones in action to future batches IFM. For their effect only. This is not to scent it (even though it does have an odor, as everything does), and won’t make it into a cologne or fragrance.

There’s one EO, in particular, that seems to be a perfect match to extend the IFM effect.

The new store is open

www.smartmones.com

2 sprays of IFM (chest and hair), 1 spray of Impi to chest and 2 drops of A314. PI left over from the previous day’s application. Had been using
sandalwood EO as deodorant instead of using soap for the past few days.

Went to a bar in town and took a girl home after only chatting for an hour or so (she was with colleagues + friends but kept coming back to chat to me). I have never closed that quickly before.

I think one of the undisclosed ingredients in IFM works particularly well with Impi (this has recently been discussed on a different forum). It would be great to have a single product that combined the secret ingredient from Impi with IFM (subject to any patent issues etc).

pheroquirk-which IFM do you have? scented, unscented etc? i use sandalwood also and i’m trying to find something to go with my IFM since mine has a particularly strong odor, or, it reacts strongly on me as the case may be. if you read through my initial experience with it i don’t see it had any negative consequences with her, rather it was just hard for me to breathe after the spray to my chest.

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2 sprays of IFM (chest and hair), 1 spray of Impi to chest and 2 drops of A314. PI left over from the previous day’s application. Had been using
sandalwood EO as deodorant instead of using soap for the past few days.

Went to a bar in town and took a girl home after only chatting for an hour or so (she was with colleagues + friends but kept coming back to chat to me). I have never closed that quickly before.
Great result!

How long was this after application?

Also, how did the mix affect you? Any downsides from the IFM?

LaCroy is one of the few company’s I’d like to worth with, since they’re one of the few I like to any real degree. However, they haven’t been responsive. I’ve heard from others that they may actually be forbidden from working with companies in the US. I find that most unfortunate.

are you a supersmeller generally? I’m not, but fwiw didn’t notice any hint of goat. I can smell none often but not always. I think I have scented - don’t see a batch number or anything on the bottle.

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This was I guess around 4 hours after application. IFM does seem to make me depressed more than occasionally (and I notice the subdued effect Jasmin was talking about). PI on my top lip helps a bit but it is still a bit of a problem.

So the LaCroy secret isn’t able to be used by others without their permission? Or it’s usable but not known?

Is your guess that Impi avoids the negative impact on guys that NPA and TE suffer from purely because of the absence of or lower levels of none?

i tried a simple cover scent experiment with sandalwood and IFM today, rubbing one half a drop sandalwood oil into one wrist, air drying then a “stutter” spray of IFM on top.

on the other wrist i did the stutter spray of IFM onto my wrist first, air drying then rubbing half a drop sandalwood in.

then, one quick spray of IFM all by itself onto the inside edge of my knee cap.

i now have two wrists that smell like IFM/ sandalwood or sandalwood/IFM and one knee that smells like goat. :smiley:

the sandalwood and IFM do not seem to disagree with each other, it doesn’t really create any exotic blend but to my nose at least, the goat will be gone. actually, i’d even put up with goat in order to repeat the experience i had with the first test.

… and one knee that smells like goat! :smiley: That’s excellent :smiley:

Well, I described it as vaguely reminiscent of hay in the other thread. We must both be hanging out in a barn. But mine has horses in it, not goats.

Guess we have Michael a little worried now. But seriously, I think hay smells good. Memories of “a romp in the hay”?

So it is making you guys feel subdued and a little depressed? I better wash it off at night then!