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Pheromones tested:
2s MX297 to left and right side of the neck

Location:
Club A – large discotheque ages 18-30, very open, high ceilings, heavy air condition

Self-Effects:
None. I rarely get self-effects, so nothing unusual.

Before going to the club, we have a few drinks at a bar nearby. As we are about to leave I excuse myself to the bathroom in order to apply the MX297. It is the first time I smell Akuto - quite heavy, but I like it.

About 5 minutes later we arrive at the club where a few guys we kinda know are already waiting in line. I talk to one of them – I know his name and roughly who he is but not much more – and we’re making small talk. As we arrive at the entrance I have the money ready, but suddenly he pays my cover charge. Now, with my close friends we don’t care who pays for what, but from an almost stranger this has never happened to me.
So we move inside, I’m talking to a few people, and about half an hour later I stand at the bar and he comes and wants to buy us drinks. I say “no way, it’s my turn now” but he insists and buys a round of drinks.

Another 15 mins later a guy who was standing close comes up to me. He is a friend of a friend, I know his name and we’ve been out in a group together a few times but I’ve never really gotten to know him. He comes up and says “ I know you don’t know who I am…” I interrupt him and say “no, I know who you are” but he insists “no way, you surely don’t remember me, but we should go out with so-and-so more often. It’s always fun…” The situation made me laugh, because he said it in a way that made clear he thought I was so important/high status that I could not possibly know who he is. Totally cracked me up.

However, other than that, there were no hits to speak of and more importantly, most of the night I felt as if I was not wearing any pheromones at all. The effects seemed weak to me, affecting only non-strangers in a range of about 1-2 metres.

Preliminary Result: Strong status hits with males, otherwise low range and weak effect

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Pheromones tested:
3s MX297 to front, left and right side of the neck

Location:
Club A – large discotheque ages 18-30, very open, high ceilings, heavy air condition

Self-Effects:
None.

Ok, same club - one weekend later. I up the dose to 3 sprays to see if the results will improve.

As we go inside we meet a friend of one of us, and as he greets me he’s totally exuberant as if I was his long-lost brother. Ten minutes later he comes over from the bar and brings me a beer. There you go again :slight_smile:

So we hang around and my buddy meets a girl he knows. I say hi to her and it turns out she’s there with two other girls who join us a minute later, all of them between 18 and 22. I introduce myself and after I say my name she asks me “are you greek?” totally baffled I reply “why would you think that?”, so she takes a moment, looks at me… “ …well, you smell greek” - says it, takes the other girls and moves away from us. Very bizarre moment, and it was clearly not meant as a compliment :wink:
This happened about 15-20 mins after application, so it may have not settled down completely, but funny it was…

The rest of the night was pretty similar to the previous test - nothing to write home about.

Preliminary Result: Strong status hits confirmed, scent is strong

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Pheromones tested:
2s MX297 to left and right side of the neck

Location:
Club B – ages 18-27, small, dense, low ceilings, hardly any air condition

Self-Effects:
None.

I decide to take 297 to a different location the following weekend. This time it’s just me and my buddy in this club that is much smaller and more “intimate”. Right from the get-go it is a different animal. We move inside and girls are staring. Hard. We decide to have some drinks so we go to the bar right on the edge of the dancefloor.

Two metres to the left of us are two blondes: one seriously hot around 25, the other kinda hot around 30. You know the kind - very sexy dresses, all the attention is on them. 3-4 guys are always around them, one or two of those may have belonged to them (not sure), the others were trying to hit on them.
While we were standing at the bar downing our drinks, the girls started to dance. Close. Very close. Even closer. Then they started to bump into me. Once. Twice. Over and over again. They were a little tipsy (but far from drunk) and by now completely ignoring the other dudes. And they kept bumping into me. My buddy, who was standing to the right of me, looked down, started shaking his head and said “un-be-lievable”. I was just grinning and enjoying the show. After maybe ten times the older one laughs and says to me ”sorry for bumping into you all the time”. I smile and respond “well, it could be a little more for my taste…”

During all this a guy comes to the bar wanting to order drinks. As he gets near us, he does a double take and says hi to me. After ordering for his friends he out of nowhere buys shots for us, too. After he leaves, my buddy asks me “did you know that guy?” “ no, never seen him before..”

To make it short, a lot of IOIs from other girls on the dancefloor, I later danced for a moment with the two blondes, but because of the guys they were with I kept it short and sweet…

The status/likability on males has been confirmed many times over. I found it to be sexy and in one case magnetic with regards to females, but exactly how attractive and whether it can be sexual as well must still be confirmed with more tests. So for now, here is my…

Conclusion:

  1. MX297 = Instant Free Drinks :wink:
  2. High status but at the same time likable and approachable
  3. Sexy (more so than Ammo) and in one case magnetic/breaking down physical barriers
  4. Critical point seems to be diffusion – with Ammo I noticed hits/IOIs 4-5 metres away in Club A, but 297 was not able to overcome the obstacles of that location
  5. Tenacity – the scent is nice but takes a little longer to settle down
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Yes - I’ve had quite a few drinks bought for me when wearing 297/390 before.

Part of the charismatic/socially engaging nature of the mix, people want you around. Although I see that as very different from status.

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yeah one chick bought me a drink as well when i was wearing mx297. id say its more like instant cool guy/buddy, add some IH and you are “the man”.

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You’re right, the cool guy/buddy thing is exactly what it was, except for that one case where he definitely looked up to me. Thanks for the tip with IH, I’ll do that after trying it with some none…

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So how would you compare ammo with mx297? which one is better?

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There is no comparison - These are entirely different products.

MX297 is a superb social/chrasmatic/fun/engaging mix and maybe the pinnacle of AD’s social mixes but it does not contain none and is not effective over anything like as wide a range of situations as Ammo. You need to work MX297 in a determinedly fun/social direction to get the best from it.

suggest you search-out the 297 mix threads from last year to see how folk used it.

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What he said.
I will definitely have to test it more solo before I can give you an informed opinion, but from my first impression they are both sexy - but 297 comes from a comfort/crush direction while Ammo comes the none/attraction way.
However, it did seem to get a reaction from more people.

It’s going to be a while before I continue with 297, that’s why I put the reports out now.

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You might want to add some Ammo to the mix. Come across as to friendly and girls will be asking you to do things for them all the time. Basically you’ll end up as a friend. Ammo will spice things up a little. Add some sex appeal to it.

Liking the report though :slight_smile:

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That could be an awesomely attractive mix. Thanks, steve - will try. Do the scents go well together?

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I’d say they dont.

Standard Ammo (F21) anyway but it will more likely overpower MX297’s light Akuto. MX390 is the same mix as 297 but in Ammo’s F21 scent.

World Edition (F22) Ammo goes well but that is currently out of stock.

After going through a load of mixes, in the end I settled on TUTH or just plain Androstenone as the best sexual addition to MX297.

My concern with Ammo is that I feel its Androsterone content may detract from the 297 vibe somewhat but TUTH or plain none takes very little away, whilst adding one hell of a sexual kick. TUTH is in a light Neroli, whilst none can be got in any scent (or dose) that you like.

In use, I found it best to let the 297 do its work for a while unaided, then when when comfort was established and escallation begun, I’d add-in a spray or two of none - This produced a rapid change in perception and things tended to turn very sexual, very quickly. :slight_smile:

Using none too early with 297 can backfire on you though so if you are not in an environment/situation where you can capitalise on its properties, don’t do it.

Recently however I have been using MX297 with a little P75 and that seems very promising - Especially with more usually none-sensitive people like Asians and younger women. Great hits and lots of Kino - even in quite unpromising environments. My sore foot has prevented me from taking this out to clubs/dancing etc - which is IMO the perfect environment for MX297 but when I can, I will. :slight_smile:

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Well there you go :slight_smile:.

I am not a fan of any colognes either, but have worn ammo FF21 with MX297 and it wasn’t bad. I wear Ammo with A314 often and pull it off. Yeah though, the idea is to see what you like best and mobo likes TUTh with it. You might be better off with TUTH if it resonates with you :slight_smile:

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:slight_smile: well, I’ll try both and report back. I also don’t like to be the “cologne guy” and my first thought was that Ammo+297 could be heavy on the nose, but if you say it wasn’t bad, I’ll give it a shot.

That’s a great idea - I have noticed the same things with p75. I was going to test a few other mixes now, but you guys have gotten me so excited I’ll go on with this as soon as I can… :slight_smile:

Appreciate your comments!!

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Pheromones tested:
2s (1+1) MX297 to front of the neck
1s P75@2.5 mcg to the wrists

Location:
Club B – small, dense, low ceilings, hardly any air condition
Club C – midsized, ages 20-35, crowded, hardly any air condition

Self-Effects:
None.

I had promising results from P75 solo, so I was excited to combine it with MX297 and see what happens.
This time we don’t go for drinks beforehand, so I apply 1sMx297/1sP75 about 30 mins before we get to the club. I meet my friend near the club and he mentions that we will be meeting two girls there - friends of friends, he has met them a couple of times, I have met them just once briefly. Girl A is a very beautiful 24yo blonde and Girl B is a brunette mid/late 20s but looks more like mid/late 30s.

We sit down with them and have a few drinks and my first impression is that they are just boring. All they talk about is work and I am getting less and less interested in the whole conversation. About 20 mins in, I apply the second spray 297. After that the blonde touches me a couple of times on the leg and tries to initiate conversation with me but I hardly respond. After about an hour of all this, we finally go to the dancefloor and the blonde begins to loosen up. We have a few laughs, I high-five her and we dance, everyone by themselves for now. Then she starts looking at me with a dreamy/crushy look and whispers something to her friend. I smile and ask “what’s the matter?” and the friend replies “..she’s too shy to tell you”. The brunette, by the way, stood on the dancefloor – stiff, not moving, not smiling and hardly talking. She did not display any noticeable reactions all night so no comments there. The blonde, however, turned out to be quite sweet.

During all this, a classy brunette mid 20s dances up to me and claims to know me - turns out she’s the ex of someone I know. We chat for a minute or two and she wants to continue, but her girlfriends pull her away – they seemed to be there for some occasion.

A few minutes later a tall brunette mid/late 20s who was there with her bf is dancing in front of me. The bf is just standing next to her having a beer while she is dancing expressively, getting close to me and – of course – bumping into me. After 2-3 times I move out of the way to avoid trouble, but I like it when effects are confirmed like that – goes to show you that the two blondes on the previous occasion were no accident.

After another hour or so we move to a different club nearby and after a short while we again hit the dancefloor. At this point, we had had a few drinks and were in a party mood but noone was drunk.
On the dancefloor, the blonde and I are getting closer and closer and are actually having fun. We are dancing together on and off, so half the time I have my hands on her butt and half the time we’re dancing solo. Then she starts to grind on my leg but it doesn’t last - I can feel her hesitation. It’s not like when you’re wearing none where a girl is really turned on and lets go. It was more of a subtle and cautious sexual attraction and after a short while it was time for us all to leave. On the way home they repeatedly mention how much fun they had and that we should repeat this.

After they had left, we decide to have one more drink in a bar nearby and there I meet a very pretty 23yo friend. In the 30 mins I was there she was very happy to be around me and very comfortable with touching but also clearly not sexual in any way.

After this test and the more one-on-one encounter, it is clear that MX297 does a fantastic job of reeling the girls in. Girl A was attracted and at times giving me a crush kind of feel and it was literally effortless. As many others have noted before me, it lacks the sexual edge and could benefit from a touch of sexuality.
Adding p75 to MX297 did not bring anything new to the table and it was not able to “push it over the edge”, so to speak. In fact, I noticed the absence of the cool guy/buddy effect on males which I attribute to it.

Length of effects: 4-4.5 hours after application the effects were still strong

Range: 3-4 metres but was mostly focused on one person

Conclusion:

  • Sexy/attractive with a “crush” vibe
  • p75 added proximity/kino but did not turn the mix sexual
  • males were neutral
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might have to look into this as my next purchase…

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Try more P75 - I started getting results around 10mcg and someone else was going up to 20-30mcg. The social buffering of 297 can take it.

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That’s what I’m thinking. I just ordered it @12.5mcg to be able to test higher doses.