Instant Honesty Help! Instant Help with Honesty!

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I cannot tell a lie…

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Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with instant honesty, and I would like to get your opinion. Compare experiences and learn if someone has had something similar.

I started with 50% of a TO-GO of Instant Honesty x2
I had a really great “frame” of the pheromone after reading all the awesome reports about peoples success with the product.
I was expecting to have…

-Deep conversational rapport
-Prolonged Conversation
-A feeling of warmth and of boundaries dissappearing
-Hearing the honest truth from others

So I have not really felt that at all…in fact my experiences has been rather unusual, because of the self effect.

For example, you know a cell has a membrane, and certain molecules can pass through the cell membrane. I feel that thoughts pass through that membrane when I wear IH. Now this could be a good thing, as I am a pretty open-minded guy. However the other effect I have is that I go silent.

I have always been an extrovert at heart and an intellectual at mind. IH seems to make me quiet, and the things I do talk about are so close to the thoughts I am having that I don’t get to fully express myself. I think of the name for example of beta-androstenol and the name feels true despite the fact that I know the science differs. Which means that I feel like I am having beta thoughts, which everyone has access too, and I am quiet and introverted like a beta male. I am also working on my comedic conversation skills and when I wear IH my comedy falls flat.

I have used different application points too!

Instant Honesty could be an incredible tool. I have used it in a few situations where I learned something of value. And I have used it in a few situations where I gained nothing (rumours about people I don’t know).

Oh and for those who are wondering..
I’m not a liar. Although when I was a child I sure could tell a story or two.

Anyone have any ideas?
Much appreciated!

I am having lots of fun with all the pherophreeks!

Experience/Effect Poll
Extreme Honesty...
Anyone tried an extreme betanol 'OD'?
Instant Honesty x4 - it holds you under until you drown
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Well, how many sprays did you had on you usually? I haven’t got the chance to try Instant Honesty, but i got some betanol. However i dont think ill get the same effects. Maybe you should try Instant Honesty with Instant Openness, so you will talk more and be less quiet?

:slight_smile: Are you asking for help to talk more, or to get these

?

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I’m not sure that instant openness will help.
I used the combination once…and the problem is that with Instant Honesty the best way I could describe it is I feel OVERWHELMED!

Thanks for pinpointing the problem with your question MB.

I haven’t been getting much of the good parts of instant honesty because I have been too self concious while wearing pheros with a dash of honesty.

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Instant Honesty contains beta-androstenol but it’s just a name, it has nothing to do with social status. Also, I wouldn’t say a beta male is necessarily quiet and introverted. If anything the whole meme of “beta” and “alpha” males is greatly overplayed.

Instant Honesty requires you to be somewhat congruent with the pheromones, and the effect is far more complex than simple honesty, there’s an empathic element there too. If you are used to talking about yourself all the time, you are going to have a hard time with it. I also wouldn’t describe it as a particularly funny pheromone, although combined with IS it can produce a different kind of humor than IS alone or IS + Instant Openness.

I’m still trying to figure out which is better, Instant Openness or Instant Honesty, but I do know too much Instant Openness or alpha-androstenol makes me a chatter box, and this is a bad habit because I tend to only talk about myself, which is something I am trying to unlearn.

I don’t really have a problem with Instant Honesty. I notice I am somewhat quieter with it, and I tend to feel like I’m more connected with people than Instant Openness, which feels more superficial. I usually wear only 1 spray Instant Openness or Instant Honesty, sometimes a 50/50 mix, just depends. Honestly there’s not a huge difference in Instant Openness and Instant Honesty, both tend to increase interest and eye contact, for instance.

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Hmm…truth about the empathic side to instant honesty.
I am emotional, and I think IH may bring that out a bit more. IFM makes me emotional too.

The idea that you are more in tune with other peoples thoughts and behavior makes sense. Maybe I will try using some honesty tomorrow at my first day of work. Often when feeling wishy washy about something I find it best to just go out and DO IT!

I probably do talk about myself most of the time. hahaha…
Thanks Daedelus. Great name to give advice like that! :o

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Hi Rev! :slight_smile: Where the hey ya been? I could’ve used your help a few weeks ago! :smiley:

We always say to spray to the back of your head for less effects, right? As I’ve said before…I dun care if you spray it on the soles of your feet…the Honesty is gonna getcha. :roll_eyes: That’s the way it is. :wink: How it gets ya and how you handle it is another thing. I understand what you’re describing, though.

Researching and having an understanding of what to expect is a good thing. Unfortunately, as these molecules are so subjective, it doesn’t always pan out as expected or hoped for.

No doubt that Instant Honesty can cause introspection. Also remember pheromones can be a strong directive for your mood/s. Even when you think you have a handle on it…up jumps the devil. :roll_eyes:

Our friend, Phya, has some interesting points to make about Instant Honesty in this same vein. Phya? Would you please talk to the Reverend? :slight_smile:

You’re never gonna bat a thousand…with anything. I’d place a pretty sure bet with Honesty though. Because that’s been my experience from the beginning.

I agree.

Neither would I. Though I’ve had a blast using it.

One isn’t really better than the other. They serve the same purpose but in different ways. It’s how you direct it that matters. And that includes internal direction. It’s one of the few pheromones that I, actually, must mind. By that I mean pay attention…don’t over talk and let the people around me have at it. Whoosh…man do they go! I also find that it’s, often, easier to open up with/to people you don’t know, especially, if you won’t be seeing them again. I’ve had some very eye opening discussions with people while traveling…transience and honesty go very well together.

I was just telling SteveO the other day about how I, sometimes, feel wearing Instant Honesty. I’m talkin’ 4X’s and Extreme Honesty, that’s 20mcg per drop. :open_mouth: Uh huh. You’ll get what I’m saying. First let me say that it’s probably my favorite Androitics product. I love it, in the Extreme. And I wear a lot of it. I’m not out of my comfort zone at all. I’m very open and honest anyways. So, it’s very congruent for/with me…there’s no struggle. I’m friendly and easily open people and I can approach and talk to just about anybody, np. I find people naturally confide in me. I know how to listen…maybe because they sense I’m genuinely interested, empathetic and can keep a secret…somehow they feel free to speak. I don’t have to press…it just comes. With Instant Honesty it comes like a freight train. I can, have and do steer it, though, if I’ve a mind to. Instant Honesty can blow your own mind as well as the guy sittin’ next to ya. To set the stage properly…the feeling that I’ve had that I was talking about that’s come over me a few times…has been under very relaxed, uninhibited and slightly inebriated circumstances. It came over me like a wave…or really more of a bubbling up and washing over feeling. It was somehow tangible I could physically feel it happening and spilling into the air around me and between us. They felt it too. I could both see and feel them/their reactions as well. Intense eye contact..it was a feeling, an understanding, if you will…in the midst of all this chatter…emotional understanding/connection…a meeting of hearts and minds. It was like an electric current …I could feel it running between all of us. At that point it was surreal. It was freakin’ wild. I loved it. Despite the fact that I actually had to sit down because of this “overwhelming” feeling of connection. There’s background on this whole story, but that’s another report for another time.

One of my favorite a-Androstenol products to wear with Instant Honesty is Scent of Eros. I’m not that fond of a-Androstenol, personally, so I lean heavy on the Honesty when wearing it. I’m going to suggest you get Instant Honesty/1X and go with one spray of that and pair it with Instant Shine to lighten it up for you a bit. Maybe, also, add some P74. Using a lower dose of Honesty you may be able to get a better hold on/get used to and direct/control your feelings. It’s worth a shot.

I find being in tune with my own, first, enables me to be in tune/read others better.

You need some Spaceland. :smiley:

Sorry so long…but once i get rollin’…dunno if any of this helps ya Rev…just my experiences.

Reps for an honest report!

Bella

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Well, Bella, I’m honored that you specifically ask for my input. :slight_smile:

Okay, well I guess first things first.

What you are experiencing, IME, is due to just needing to become acclimated to the strong effects of Instant Honesty. You’re working with IH2x Togo. So that’s 83% of a IH2x which means you are still applying 66% more than the regular IH per spray. You didn’t include how many sprays you were trying, so I can only assume around 1-3 sprays. Either way, that’s between 1.66 to 4.98 doses of regular IH.

Instant Honesty is strong stuff, even 1 spray at regular strength can be enough to drive you into the introspective mode. Maybe you find that as being introverted. Most likely though, I think you find your internal thoughts compelling enough to want to stick to your internal dialogue, rather than switching to an external dialogue with another individual about something less compelling.

I find that even moderate applications of IH can lead to me becoming introspective, even in the presence of other pheromones that might steer in a different direction (IS, p79, some others..), especially when I’m alone. If you want to break out of it, and be your usual self, then I would try applying some pheromones to pull it in the direction you normally feel you are. But really, it’ll just kinda go away with getting acclimated to IH. You could say you ODed, in that, the introspectiveness is apparently somewhat of an undesirable result. Lower your doses, and I think you’ll find that you’re in your own head less.

In the end though, you gotta break out like any other shy/quiet/introverted guy. Just force yourself to get out there and your natural self will find its way back out. :wink:

Well, the way I see it, Instant Honesty is really more about ‘emotional communication’. The beta-androstenol, IMO, brings out emotional thoughts (What did you happen to think about when you were being all introspective, btw? Things that have some significant impact in your life?) and the alpha-androstenol helps the vocalization of said thoughts. In a sense, the beta-nol gives content for the alpha-nol to verbalize. Rather than the a-nol just releasing the floodgates for whatever thoughts come to mind (some of the superficiality I feel with Instant Openness) But basically that would be the deep conversational rapport, I’m pretty sure most of the deep, intense, or long conversations you’ve had were emotionally charged.

If someone feels that they can share their emotions with you freely, or at the very least, their emotional content is coming up in your presence, the chances are greater that they will vocalize it. Sharing such emotions or personal material leads to development of relationships, and hence a deepening of bonds - the warmth and boundaries disappearing you mention.

As for hearing the truth out of others, I feel the name Instant Honesty is a little misleading in this sense. People don’t just blurt out the ‘truth’, they do, however blurt out things that are important to them. IMO, emotions are truth, not objectively, but definitely subjectively, it is truth in that moment - hence, honesty.

That’s cute. :smiley: As mentioned before, the prefix of ‘beta’ is not to denote any reflection of its effects regarding social hierarchy, but to my knowledge, just another name for a specific molecule. They are just slightly different variations on the same base molecule, so it there were another one, it’d most likely be whatever the next greek letter is. I’m not in the greek system, so I’ve no clue what that is. :stuck_out_tongue:

I see myself as an extrovert, I don’t feel that I’ve ever been ‘beta’. I may not have made getting laid, looking tough, and feeling like top dog my priority, but I was not messed with, was respected amongst my peers, and still got mine. Yet, I would say that I have very strong introspective tendencies. In short, correlation is not causation. Introverted and alpha can co-exist.

Strong messages can be sent silently. If you’ve ever had someone hold a gun to your head, that is a very strong silent message. :slight_smile:

I haven’t actually done any formal/amateur stand up before, so I can’t directly recommend anything. However, I do tell a lot of stories at parties and such. Instant Honesty doesn’t really help in this respect, I would avoid it. Instead I would try just a dash of Instant Openness to keep your lips loose, and load on the Instant Shine. The most important thing in a performance, IMO, is the energy of the act. It has to stay vibrant and interesting, there needs to be a lot of energy flow coming from the comedian and going around the room. You create the atmosphere, so if you want a hyped crowd, you gotta bring the party supplies. :slight_smile:

Maybe a little p79 wouldn’t hurt either, perhaps a touch of p74? A dash of p93 might not hurt either. I dunno what it is with me and touches, dashes or bits of this and that, but I just feel like with cooking, seasonings have the most impact when carefully measured. (I understand that bits and dashes and touches are not necessarily ‘careful’ measurements, but bear with me. :slight_smile:)

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I’m still trying to figure out IH myself, i have 2 togo bottles of IH, one of them is X2, so i can have plenty of time to test them, i haven’t been using them all that much, i’ll have to do a standalone test soon.

The alpha and beta name have nothing to do with the pheromone projecting an alpha vibe. Both are communication pheromones, one is more series and mellower than the other.

I once read from somewhere that you should ALWAYS use more alpha -nol than beta -nol, but i guess that also depends on your signature and how congruent you want to be and the situation at hand.

i think i’v seen more research on alpha -nol and it is also being used more today in some products, SOE for example contains only alpha -nol, and correct me if i’m wrong, ammo has no beta -nol in it?

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I take it you are wearing the female version, Bella? I can definitely feel the androsterone in the men’s version.

I think Scent of Eros with beta-androstenol would be a near perfect product for myself. Beta-androstenol or Instant Honesty seems to make a person look more mysterious and magnetic than alpha-androstenol. My solution is I tend to wear Scent of Eros just on days I don’t care about the effects too much, but when I really want to have fun I add a spray or two of Instant Honesty. Instant Honesty gives you some “Jedi Mind Tricks” that Instant Openness won’t. It can also freak people out if you use enough pheromones and they have no idea what’s going on :slight_smile:

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Dude, which is it? When I’m looking for a deep conversation I don’t usually tool around with jokes (I’m a bit of a tool when it comes to jokes :smiley: ). I certainly don’t try to work on something. You wanna get serious or do you want a good laugh?

Here’s how Honesty has worked for me: I had these “deep” conversations girl. IH (2x) has not only opened her up a bit more (in very weird & unexpected ways) but myself as well. Example: she asked me a question about 2 girls making out & I thought about it…& admitted that I was thinking of an answer that wouldn’t turn her off. I’ve never done that before.

Furthermore, in work situations people fucking spill their guts around me about what they think of other staffers, etc. In fact, there’s a guy who’s notorious for keeping to himself & I didn’t get that at all from him. I could give a shit about the gossip, but my goal of them being comfortable around me is accomplished.

So you gotta really think about what you want out of each product & apply yourself to that goal. It sounds like you’re a bit confused as to how you want to use this.

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I only have a moment but I want to say…

WOW. Thanks to all of you for taking the time to write some of the most helpful opinions I have ever read on this message board. I am humbled.

You guys are the best. honest tear
I wish I had time to reply to each and every point.

Bella: thank you for bringing me deep into your world. with empathy.
Phya: i would buy the book!
Daedelus: BEER
K24: keep on smokin’ baby! but try not to do too much of the stuff you have on the bottom there.

much LOVE to all,
and happy pherophreekin’

~Evolve