Instant openness vs A314

Which would you say is more effective, instant openness (IO) or A314. I can imagine that they have similar effects. What are your experiences with them and which would you suggest?

The effects of IO and A314 are actually worlds apart.
IO is mostly Alpha Androstenol. It’s fun, lighthearted, and social. It creates a feeling of chattiness and in high doses can be silly and flippant.

A314 is Alpha Male social dominance. It conveys maturity, status, respect and success. People are more inclined to give you special treatment…not because you’re a fun likable guy, but because they sense you’re an important guy. People ask for advice and input more because you’re seen as a person who’s opinion carries weight. If you’re not careful about your own demeanor A314 can actually be overly serious and intimidating. IO can help lighten A314 but in too high a dose it actually conflicts with it imo.

Totally different pheros.

IIRC, IO was more or less 50/50 alpha and beta androstenol?

And personally, I’d do my best to avoid IO and A314 together. A little IS does a far better job IME.

Like was mentioned above, IO and A314 are very different. Depending on the situation and your demenor, IO can be a nice add on to A314. I find this to be true in those situations where status and social skills are needed/useful. Like say a company mixer, or other social engagement that isn’t a party per se. Context is everything. Another good blend thats a little less serious, but still a good mix in those situations that are somewhat more relaxed wojld be IG + IH + IO. Again, its all about what you are trying to acomplish, and where.

I’m trying to accomplish helping a girl feel completely free and open and happy with me. Before you say it, I know that mones can’t do this alone, but if they can help I’m all for it. At the moment I’m thinking A314 with a little ammo, and then IS or IO, or a combination of IS and IO? Any ideas?

lovegin, can you tell something about what she thinks about you now? What is your relationship with her?

Also, a bit more about her personality would help…

I love AMMO and IS as a combo… it does give that confident male vibe as well as some relaxed around me feeling from the IS. You could steer it to have her open up to you…

She is quite an insecure girl and quite shy and quiet. She has told me recently I am the love of her life, and has been getting quite jealous of any other girls that she has seen talking to me (innocently) or even messaging me on facebook. At the moment we share something that feels so deep, almost out of this world. We are still opening up to each other though, but this process means little to us as we already share something that feels very unique and special. I just want to facilitate the opening/becoming confident and not shy.

If that’s what you want IS or IO would help you.

You probably don’t really know what you want. You probably also want that she develops attraction.

When do you meet your girl? Do you have a date? Do you meet her during work? University?

You really need to start doing some research. Your posts are really off. You should start at the stickies section and read a little. It’s like asking which is better, a car or a rocket ship?. I encourage you to read the stickies and the other threads that will help guide you :slight_smile:

Yeah you should read up so you get a better idea of what different type of products there are and what they do.

A314 and IO are nothing alike.

As for your lady friend there, if she wants to feel free and and open and happy maybe she should look into some for herself lol As for you..IO will give her a sense of openess and prob chatty. A314 hmmm hard to say in that situation. Might put her in her place and you may come across as the dominate male. Think you’re trying to avoid that right?