IS/a, P83, Mx135, CTTM2 & Mx288....

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Last night was that double blind date that I got suckered into going on… Oh dear… total success phero-wise…disaster as a date :roll_eyes:
I wore the biggest combo I’ve worn sofar in my phero adventures…

Product name, scent and strength
IS/a, P83 @5mcg, Mx135, Come Talk To Me Mix 2, IS-Mx288

Application dosage and locations

  • 4 sprays IS/a (1 to wrists, 2 to cleavage/neck, 1 back of neck)
  • 5 sprays P83 (2 to wrists, 3 to back of neck)
  • 2 sprays Mx135 (1 to wrists, 1 to cleavage/neck)
  • 3 sprays Come Talk To Me Mix 2 (1 to wrists, 1 to back of eck, 2 to hair)
  • 3 sprays Mx288 (1 to wrists, 1 to cleavage, 1 to neck)

Enviroment tested in.
Pub and restaurant

Self effects.
The mix was a great going out combo in terms of self effect. I felt happy, excited and sexy, kind of like I’ve had a drink or two getting ready (which I hadn’t). The Mx288 version of IS doesn’t give me the same kick as the standard IS does though, I noticed that.

Effects to others
Well…where do I start…My flatmate and I met up with the 2 guys at a pub for a few drinks before dinner. The pub was packed but we got ALOT of attention when we arrived. I noticed more than a few DIHL 's from guys around me. There were 2 men who gave up their table for us which I thought was very nice of them :roll_eyes: They remained standing near us the whole time we were there and they kept staring & smiling at me. The bartenders were jsut the same…very smily, flirty and gave back more money than they should have when I bought drinks…Oh, and I got served first even though there were plenty of people waiting :smiley:

The guys we were there to meet…sigh…I’m sure they were lovely but I was soo not interested. I felt sorry for my flatmate as well because as we sat down with our first drinks they were both fixed on me, giving me ALL the attention. I struck up a conversation with one of them so the second eventually started talking to my mate.

The table next to us had a few men that looked like they were about 60 or so…they kept looking at me and smiling and then I heard one of them go; “they didn’t make them like that one back in my day” Hmmm… I do like older guys, but not that old.

We got to the restaurant and sat in the bar while waiting to get seated. “My” date sat way to close to me on the couch for my liking…his thigh was touching mine and he kept leaning in to my neck and when he talked to me he was soo in my face…

We got to our table and ordered food. I was already getting a tad frustrated with my date. He was way too much into me! Ok, I do like getting compliments, but I don’t want to be told in every second sentence how amazing I am! The topic of converstaion was all about me, everythign I said or had done was “fascinating” “brilliant” or bloody “amazing”…and he had this lovesick puppy look the whole time.

To make matters worse, he was an anthropologist…and unfortunately to steer the conversation off me I asked him why he had gotten into anthropology, what was it about it that interested him? He then proceeded to tell me all about evolution, monkey’s and “home latin name this” “homo latin name that”…he just went on and on…

I had a whole pitcher of sangria and that didn’t help :roll_eyes: OMG he bored me to tears… I even tried making stupid bimbo comments and cracking jokes about anthropology…didn’t help at all…the lovesick puppy eyes were still there & I was still f***ing amazing…

The restaurant was fab though, and the food was beautiful. My flatmate had a great time she said, she was laughing at me :open_mouth: she knew this guy was driving me nutz but he was totally oblivious…The restaurant staff were great too, we had awesome service and I even got to make up my special order main course…

Towards the end of the night though my flatmate and I ended up getting in a cab after my date suggested I stay at his place…“because cabs are soooo expensive and I’d be very comfortable at his place”…yeah right buddy! I ended up telling him sorry, but I don’t think so, I had a great time but no you can’t have my number…

Duration of effects.
I sprayed on my combo when getting ready for the pub at around 6.30pm…We arrived at the pub at about 8pm.
I also did a top-up of IS/a (2 sprays) around 10pm…seemed like a good idea at the time after quite a few drinks :roll_eyes:

Range
Most people at the pub were within 2-3 meters of me, but “my date” kept his distance to about 1 foot or less the entire night…

Time exposure.
When we arrived at the pub I noticed DIHL 's and smiles within a few minutes. The effect on the guys we were meeting was almost instantaneous…maybe because they were closer to me…

So I think it’s safe to say this was a great going out combo! I got a lot of attention, much more looks & smiles than I usually get, and I was only dressed in jeans and a non-cleavage showing top so it wasn’t the outfit. The combo definitively put me in a party mood too, and I reckon I would have had guys approach me if we hadn’t been there with our “dates”.

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great post

:slight_smile:

i could never however wrap my head around how so many peeps here use so many mixes in one evening…

putatives,for example, are single-testing molecules.
i totally understand mixing these to see which work with which-
AFTER they have been tested by themselves to see how they behave alone.

when wearing say, MX135, you have a mix that is TAH dominant.
adding that to IS/A takes the dominance out of the TAL i always thought, and since there are other molecules mixed into the mixes, wearing several mixes makes them redundant and so i personally find it difficult to know what is doing what… and why !!!

omg

im a control freak.

lol,see now if i could hang with you sisters i might learn to spray like crazy and just have fun with it.

::pensive_face::

nope. cant do it. :roll_eyes:

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Oh, I knew it was a big combo :smiley: I have used IS/a + MX135 + CTTM2 before with good results, and I’ve doen the P83 alone tests so I figured I’d see what would happen if I added it to my mix when going out :roll_eyes:

The IS was the extended Mx288 version which I haven’t used in a combo before, I’ve only ever used the standard IS. I found that the Mx288 gives me less of an energy boost than the standard IS does.

I think my next adventure will have to be mixing IS/a, Mx300 and P83…got to try going TAL heavy at least once :smiley: I have a feeling on me the Mx135 mellows the TAL effect a bit…the question is though, is that the reason the mix last night was sooo successful or was it adding the P83 that was responsible for that :roll_eyes:

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thats the prob with big mixing, theres no way to tell.

TAH- passive
TAL- aggressive

oversimplification i know but your mixes appeared to be somewhat balanced out.

your mixes that evening equates to my brain to be heavy female-girlyness with no particular direction.
hyper-pink-glowing-ball-of-girlyness.

this isnt a bad thing at all.

if you wanted to steer it with someone in particular, then balanced wouldnt be to your advantage.

again with the control-freak thing :roll_eyes:

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Can you elaborate on that a bit?

Are you talking about tailoring the combo to the personality of your TG? If that’s the case, what would you combine to snag an alpha male? Would you go the TAH direction to appear appealing in a feminine way…or would you go TAL? Would steering it to TAL make you more of a competitor for the alpha dominance and less interesting for an alpha male?

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i just want to state that these are my opinions only, based on my observations with the dating scene in bars for 15 years…

if you have your eye on an Alpha…

someone who is wearing something that gives the impression of soft and sexxay-
like TAH heavy or Anol heavy-

they will get him first.
they are easy prey.
sex first,relationship - never.

someone who is wearing something that gives the impression of bold and sexxay-
like TAL and Betanol heavy-
sex eventually,relationship - worthy.

heres what:

soft and sexxay is just how some chicks are.
when they wear TAL dominant stuffs , they are the best of both worlds.

alpha and sexxay is how some chicks are, and balanced would be better here.
if I over-do the TAL he had better want to be bossed around.
enjoy the ride so to speak :open_mouth:
and so with that said, when I wear IS/A i get only the kind of guy attention that can keep up with me.
it weeds out players, predators, and weenies.
i promise they dont even TRY.

i get only guy attention from confident sexxay men.
few and far between but its worth it :wink:

this isnt to imply all men arent sexxay…ALL MEN HAVE THAT POTENTIAL !!!

i only mean these guys already know what they are worth and have made that journey.

heres something interesting to note -

sometimes i want to appear softer.
this is when im feeling in love with the world in general and not so much about one particular person.
I wear TAH heavy stuff on outside … it is all-inclusive with men…
but i continue to wear TAL on inside…like a small spritz in shirt…and this keeps me feeling congruent personality-wise.

its for all of these reasons that i have bottles of TAL and TAH and Betanol and Alphanol separate from the mixes.

i am better able to customise my day.

control freak …

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OH. this is BLOODY BRILLIANT!!! SOmeone finally explained this so it makes sense to my weird brain :smiley:

I have a feeling going for TAL is the way to go with my TG…and the poor sod last night, he must have been feeling the TAH…he was way to much of a softie/weenie for me :roll_eyes: If I can use phero’s to avoid attention from guys like him…bring it on!

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I fear Im another like Xiphoid who’s all about spraying it all on!!Sorry Lor!! But thanks to that Ive found my special super duper awesome make-me-popular-and-beautiful mix! Im still playing with exact amounts of each, but wanted to report in so others could try and see if they get the same reactions..

Heres what Ive been using:
P83 2 sprays 12.5mcg P86 3 sprays 12.5 mcg, IS/A x1 3 sprays, and 2 sprays IO (thanks for the free sample androtics!) 2 small drops EST, about a gallon of cops. Im keeping better track now of how much I use so will report back with dosages…I iTHINK the P83 and 86 were 12.5 mcg…could have been 10? Im at the office and don’t have them with me.
Im just reporting on one night, though this is typical of whats been happening…A friend and I (who I also sprayed, were experimenting together!) went to a new bar/ restaurant….here are the hits:
First Stop: Restaurant/Bar -

  1. Waiter offered free extra appetizer portion
  2. Waiter was just very sweet and attentive throughout
  3. Once off duty, he sat with us and had a drink, brought me a free one.

Second Stop: Pub-

After taking a quick walk through, we sat at the bar in the front – it was about half hour before close, if that. Noone really cute, figured we would just sit and chat…

Within about 5 minutes, two (cute!) guys walked in and sat just to left of us (I was on the left, my friend was on the right). One was beautiful, one just super cute, for anyone that wants extra detail . Chatting Chatting Chatting (they talked first) – I looked over and noticed that my friend ALSO had a cute guy leaning in talking to her! Heres the thing….We are ‘mature’ lol – Im 37 and my friend is 42. The guys talking to me were 23..the guy talking to my friend was in his 30s. All very very cute. Unfortunately, lights came on and the pub was closing, time to go  I was NOT going to stay in touch with this guy as his MOM WORKS AT THE SAME UNIVERSITY I DO, lol…(he said his last name and I thought, Oh Crap). Oh and plus hes 23. Mr. Beautiful, on his way out stopped and talked to me and had his hand on my shoulder and made super eye contact for about 5 minutes. I played it off but thought WTH? I STILL LOVE ANDROTICS!!

Okay, so next morning, I get an email from my friend who said her husband was asleep when she got home, but she was woken up early for a special surprise…which is very very very rare. She asked if the pheromones worked overnight – we last applied at about 1AM, so Im sure there was some effect there. Shes coming around to believing too!

Anyway, I highly recommend this mix. Im not so sure that the IS/A is warranted, since Im using cops anyway theres something sexual already - I think CTTM might also do the trick, and I know there is some overlap in those mixes, right? In any case, a nice mix of sexual / social – does the trick!! I just LOVE how I feel with IS/A, and I dont get too much of that wqith IS/B…but I agree with Lor in that only those guys who are super sure and confident will approach you with the A version…though Im feeling super sure and confident (I liken it to liquid instant prozac!) myself when Im wearing it, so which comes first? I like your idea Lor of wearing one inside and the other outside - I cant go without my IS/A or alphanol…(is alphanol IN IS/A? Is this whats making me feel so amazing in IS or IO?? If so I want spaceland martini! Thats whats in it, right?)

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LOL Frances !!!

the ONLY way you know what does what is by NOT throwing it all on at once…then when recommending it you can explain why/how it works for you :wink:

what is making you feel amazing is the TAL.

a-nol makes you spacey and gives you a youthful vibe.
it can encourage chat and draw people to you.
it really is a wonderful attractant.

it really is more fun than perfume or clothing to make a statement

:slight_smile:

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TAL?? Is that common to all those - the IS/A and the CTTM? Instant openness too? Whatever, I want to Marry It!! :slight_smile:

Ok I know Im a big thrower- but I have used each on its own and think I know what does what…as much as I can. For example, the p86 makes me feel like I look hot and therefore gives me lots of confidence. The p83 kind of takes things to another level, depending on how and where things are headed. IS/A makes me feel like a sexy bitch rockstar, lol…and the CTTM and instant openness just seem to end up in more approachability.

I DO have a problem - I brought out all my androtics bottles and it now looks like a meth lab in my bedroom!!

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is Tah and Tal completely differnt the is/a and is/b… i know A has more tal and b has more tah… but just curious as it is sold seperately then the is/a and Is/b
thanks,
islandhopper

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Yes, TAL and TAH are different products from IS/a and IS/b :slight_smile:

IS/a is TAL heavy, i.e has a lot of TAL in it, but it also has other phero’s.
IS/b is TAH heavy…

Basically, TAH and TAL are just that, whereas IS/a and IS/b are phero mixes

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In my experience, the reverse of this is true. For me, TAH attracts the guys looking for a relationship, while TAL attracts the guys who want hot sex.

When I wear TAH or TAH-heavy mixes, I get a lot more protective, nurturing attention from alpha males. Almost as if they yearn to wrap me up in a blanket and take me home where they can pet me and keep me safe. When I wear TAL or TAL-heavy mixes, I get a lot of strutting, show-off attention (usually from the type of guys who are trying too hard to be alpha or hardcore), a lot more blatant sexual advances, etc.

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Oh dear…I think Im more in line with ariadne, Im going to need to use more IS/B to figure it out…but i love love the A so much! Ill need to do A on the inside and B on the outside maybe - thanks for the idea!