Is alpha a314 a and b a good substitute for the bigger bottle ?

Hi everyone I’m new here and just ordered the turn up the heat bottle regular size and I see how a314 is the most popular pheromone on here. It’s a little pricy for me right now but I was wondering is the a314 a and b to go sprays a good substitute for the big bottle?

I have yet to experience the A314 oil (I hope to soon)
However, I do have A314B Spray which is the same formula and works very quick and well for me. As described on the website 1 spray of A314B should be equivalent to one drop of A314 oil. For me it seems to last 4-5 hours.

Hey man thanks for the reply how long do these to go bottles last you then you would say ??

If you use 3 days days of the week at only 2 spray a couple times a day maybe up to 3 weeks. I do wish they’d do a 30ml bottle.

No - they are different implementations of the A314 formula but neither are a complete substitute for the oil IMO.

The \a is the high-impact/most in your face version, for use where you need the maximum impact in the minimum time but its hard and unsubtle. The best use I’ve found for it is alongside TUTH in high-impact and mature status/sexual mixes with the likes of TUTH in clubs and uninhibited environments - and you need to work it hard, almost severe in an unashamedly sexual “man of few words” direction.

In nonsexual/professional applications, it would IMO only serve yo uwell for making an impact in short interactions - where it will get you noticed. However it lasts nowhere near as long on the skin and you will need to topup to see it last a normal working day. I keep a togo in my drawe at work for when I need to drastically up my status if I’m caught at short notice. If I’m on my normal diary, I prefer to dose the oil appropriately instead.

The \b is dosed to approximate oil, spray for drop but again its is higher impact, nowhere near as subtle in effect and its longevity on the skin is less by several hours - with the sprays, you don’t get much more than six hours usable activity before it starts to tail-off markedly. IMO, at best the \b is good as a try out for the oil to see if the basic A314 signature is going to suit you.

So that’s it - if you want oil, you need to get it. The smooth, calm, collected and subtle status/mastery of A314 is not the same in sprays - and you won’t get the full eight hours (or 10-12 if you apply over lotion) and low-scent any other way.

Also after reading your other thread, I’d suggest you think carefully about starting with A314 - A314 exudes confidence, yes but you need to back it up with the appropriate behaviour/personality traits. Where shyness/social anxiety are involved, A314 can work against you by making you seem more standoffish/disinterested/remote and even “too-good” for other people to interact with.

A lighter, more sociable status product like IG might be a better and more accessible approach. Especially alongside TUTH as it can be tricky on shy guys. Once you have a bit more experience with pheros and hopefully feel more comfortable around people, then move to A314. :slight_smile:

thanks for taking your time and being really detailed it helps alot ! I might just get the a314 b spray just to see how it affects me and if I like it I’ll get the oil or I might just get IG like you recommended I’ll have to think about it more. so the oil how do you apply it to yourself? you just dap it on you? it seems like the the spray would be better so you dont over apply it or waste it by accidentally spilling it on you

Yeah sometimes the oil comes out more drops then I like, like this morning for example..but sometimes I don’t get a full spray from a spray bottle either so all in all it isn’t a big issue. From what I’ve heard the oil trumps the spray due to longevity and subtleness as mobo mentioned.

Try turning the dropper until the vent hole, deep in the rebate is at the highest point when you drop - that way the pressure in the bottle is maintained and IME it helps sort-out dropping issues significantly.

If there is already oil gathered in the rebate, you may have to clean it out with a bit of tissue.

For the spray, bringing it up to pressure with a very gentle push on the cap will help. Press just till you feel the tension increase as the tube fills.

Yep I’ve done that with the spray. Especially the Ringo bottles. But I don’t quite get the oil one. I’ll take a look at my oil later and reread this

Here’s a shot to illustrate:


Personally I always put the vent opposite to the label, then always drop with the label held down, so I don’t have to think much about it in the morning but you can put it wherever you want, so long as its consistent.

Sometimes you will still get a big blob instead of a drop though, esp with a new/full bottle - Think of it like fate telling you that you need a bit more that day! :slight_smile:

This is awesome man, thanks.