Also, I’d like to add that I no longer feel the ‘high’ from P96 anymore.
Hm I wonder if you got used to it like IS. I find at around 5-10 MCG I get the body high and at higher doses I don’t really get the same feeling. What is weird is solo I get this feeling to and when paired with something I don’t.
TAC is the same way where solo it more relaxes me and I can be blunt in my conversations. When I use with say your famous mix I don’t get that out of it and it is more of a disinhibitor and buffer and makes things more fun and relaxed like with conversations.
I find it interested how a molecule can act one way by itself then it changes when paired with other things.
I completely agree. It’s amazing how it acts differently when paired.
Also, interestingly, I have not adapted to the TAC self effects at all. It still relaxes me a lot even after years of using it.
I just wanted to stop by and let you know i have found 2 sprays 1X TUTH, 20 MCG TAC, 30 MCG P96, and Hedione mix to work perfect.
This is a super sexual mix and i can actual go to 3 sprays with the P96 but let me worn you. You will get over the top hits.
I will use this with the wife, but going out in public just gets me in to much trouble.
With P96 if you find the right balance will give you the beatifying effect and the emotional connection that women love.
For me it is at 30 MCG i imagine that would be about right for you to. If not 20-40 MCG somewhere in there
I’ve been meaning to give that one a shot and I think I will now, but oddly I haven’t been very successful at having anything added to the TUTH/TAC/HEDIONE, even 2.5mcg - 7.5mcg P96 added seemed to ruin the mix. But I think I will at least try 20-30mcg like you’ve mentioned and see what happens.
2 - 9 - 16
Woke up (just shy of 8 hours sleep) ate a little bit and showered.
9am sprayed on:
2 sprays TUTH 1x
2 sprays TAC 10mcg each
8 sprays P96 2.5mcg each
2 sprays HEDIONE
3 sprays the Beat
1 spray ADG
Got to work and everybody seemed to have a calm about them. Not standoffish, nor did I seem to ghost or anything like that.
I am feeling that high I felt before with less mcg.
10am added 4 more sprays P96
That’s 30mcg P96 now
10:10am
I stop at grocery store to pick up a snack.
Nothing really worth noting. Walked passed many older women 40s+, none really younger. However, of these women, one gave me a short Dihl and then turned her head with a smirk. Another, as she walked down an aisle gave me a short Dihl and looked away also.
10:30am
I’m feeling a little euphoric, carefree kind of high.
12:15pm
The fellas seem normal at my job but the ladies seem unaffected.
I seem to be very anti social and not talkative at all.
1:46pm
I am feeling so euphoric like I can hardly formulate words and am extremely hungry.
Even the little Hispanic female at work showed no interest as she usually would.
The only good thing about this mix for me was the self effects. I felt really high all day.
That is weird. I have been using 15 MCG 6% Neroli if it matters.
I find it goes well with women for me. With your mix I find it hits hard 8 out of 10 times and I get the same consistent results with the P96 added.
I do find it weird that this can happen when we both find our sweet spot with TUTH and TAC the same.
I am pretty consistent with my sleep and I posted my supplements and they have not changed at all and either has my diet at all.
I do find painkillers do interfere with my testosterone levels big time and also if I take them I don’t get the same hits with the same mixes. I am really curious now.
On a side note I was happy to nominate your old post as I remembered it and was up really early and found it again.
Yeah it is weird. It could have to do with the mcg/spray. I’m unsure. But I do know is that I have a hell of a hard time adding virtually anything to this mix.
I think you’re right, it’s about the sweet spot. Perhaps there is something in my natural sig that offsets the ability to add anything. I am a little younger than you. That may be a factor.
I’m theorizing that I naturally have a high concentration of social type -mones in my natural signature. I always seem to need less mcg of socials.
I wish I could get away with adding a little P96 to my mix as it would make it much easier and cost effective, but unfortunately my sweet spot seems to be 10mcg TUTH 40mcg TAC and 7.5mcg P96. I’m still very happy with the results, but it just means I’ll have to go through my TUTH/TAC twice as fast.
But even with this combo I do see what you mean when you caution to be careful. Ladies really let their guard down with this combo, I still remember the day this one little cutie almost walked into the bathroom with me, super funny.
I don’t know if you’ve incorporated, let alone tried using on its own, P95 with this mix. But P95 makes it really really fun and exciting (for her of course). I think if we could get a well rounded mix of TUTH/TAC/P95/P96/Hedione then it would be a real killer mix.
Yeah I agree about any meds, sleep, vitamins and supps, etc. can all have an effect on natural sig. I think the best thing to do really is find a routine that fits you and stick with it and test accordingly. It seems as soon as you change something up, your mix won’t hit as well and you may be inclined to want to play with the mcg, and then end up losing what you once had. (When I say ‘you’ I mean anyone in general)
Hey thanks man! For the nomination. I really appreciate it. I’m just happy when I can help others.
2 - 10 - 16
Today was very very interesting.
I wake up and get dressed after about 6 hours sleep.
I figure my sleep will affect my mones so I need not waste my product. I decide to just spray Hedione.
When I get to work (5am) my boss (40-50s white female) seems delighted to see me, she always says hello but not this enthusiastically .
After work I go to the store and I could have sworn every single woman would either not let me pass or would deliberately stop right in my way. Crazy.
When I go to my next job the results were the same. All day women just sort of in my way. Then it got even stranger. One of my coworkers (40-50s Hispanic female) started flirting with me hard and she never did before.
Me and a group of people were joking around about me being engaged to one if my coworker’s daughter and then we said we were joking and that I was single, then the Hispanic girl shouts out ‘I’m single!’ She said she likes younger men. Then she kept making hints like she was going to be my present for valentines and many other flirty remarks. It was crazy. Totally unexpected.
Women also seemed to approach me easily and ask me for help.
After work I go home and shower. I have to pick up my child from school so I figure ill spray some more Hedione on to see how the young Hispanic teacher will respond. When I get there she isn’t there but this one 20 yr old blonde teacher (who never seems affected by the -mones) lit up with a nice smile when she saw me. Definitely out of the norm for her. And the other Hispanic teacher who tends to light up when she sees me, lit up also.
I suspect Hedione is very very powerful even on its own.
I sometimes take mone-free days and use hedione only. I get soft results, but not as spectacular as those. How many sprays did you use? What’s the % and diluting agent again?
I use about 3 sprays always. It’s 25% in PA.
I’m quite sure the lack of sleep was also a factor.
A factor why it worked better?
Yes I believe so.
So it would the opposite of what sleep deprivation does for mones? Interesting. That would be a nice option to wear after very short nights then.
Yes I would say so. I plan to test to find out for sure.
2 - 11 - 16
Today I wore
2 sprays TUTH 2.5mcg each
2 sprays TAC 10mcg each
3 sprays Hedione
1 ADG
3 The Beat
Went to work after I slept for 5 hours woke up and slept another hour and 45 minutes.
The results weren’t like I thought they’d be. Still it wasn’t a full 8 hours or more so I expected it to not be be so great.
I got quite a few looks and dihl but not extravagant like I’m used to with this mix. A lot of attention drawn to me for sure. Maybe about 60-70% of what I usually get in strength of hits and amount. Even less so towards the evening.
Also I’ve been on ibuprofen all day for many days. If it’s a factor, it’s a small one.
2 - 12 - 16
Slept about 5-6 hours
Woke up and went to work
(Residue from yesterday’s mones had great attraction from the females)
Get off work and go home and shower
Ate usual diet save for a multivitamin I had last night prior to going to bed w/ zinc and Vit E in it 100 DV.
1:30 pm
Spray on
Mix 1
1 ADG
3 TB
3 H
3:00pm
Pick up child from school
Seemed to have good attraction and pull to it, more so than usual seeing asmany ladies gave me DIHL and/or strong looks with a nice smile and a hello. 20-30s white women and 1 20s black female. About 4 of them.
So I had high hopes for this after I left and on my way to the store, but the results weren’t so promising.
3:30pm
When I got to the store it seemed to be a complete and utter ghosting from everybody.
And I came in contact and walked by and passed a lot of people.
I think it is conclusive.. Missed sleep equates to the mix failing to produce reasonable results.
So in an attempt to incorporate a multivitamin back into my diet I plan to take it in the evening or night. I feel way better and more energized regularly when I take multivitamins daily.
Some of the vitamins and minerals (E and zinc for example) effect hormonal levels and they always seem to effect my pheromone sig.
However, I know that after I sleep my levels seem to ‘reset’ for lack of a better word.
I think for the next week I will test according to this starting today, of course with adequate sleep.
2 - 13 - 16
Slept a full nights rest, woke up and showered and sprayed at 10:30am
Mix 1
3 H
1 ADG
3 TB
Had a multivitamin a few hours before bed last night.
I would say the results were somewhat of what I would have expected but not quite all the way there. The fact that I did use the multi before bed helped the results as opposed to taking it in the morning, but still seemed to be too much.
At the public event I went to (11:15am - 3:00pm) it was a textbook hit and miss. Some people responded well, the men very friendly coming up to me and sparking conversation. Others basically shunning me, even almost not acknowledging me as I asked questions.
Then the women, some constant Dihl and drawing eyes to me, while others almost completely ignoring my presence.
It seems no matter what I do, when I take a multivitamin it always skews my -mone results. I think I’ll actually not be continuing with taking them even at night or the eventing and just focus on eating a well balanced diet that offers all necessary nutrition… At least for the time being.
I think I will, however, try different mixes while taking the multivitamin on some days perhaps, to see if I can achieve good results.
I am curious on your colognes and how it effects your mixes. With my EO I find it sometimes helps the mixes and other times it seems to fight with it and not get along.
I am thinking of keeping my EO mix to my wrists and forearms and my pheromones to my chest up.
I am trying to get my mixes to get along and work together towards my goals.
I love the fact you are testing cologne and I have taken a different path. With EO the EO seems harder to dial in for me.