Signature test.
Thanks! Yes and no!
I always spray my mix of pheromones on my neck. But the only layering I do is TAC over a sexual like Ammo or TUTH.
Everything else is spread out over my neck.
Also the hedione?
Yes the hedione gets sprayed on just a little lower.
Example:
TUTH & TAC sprayed on side of neck just below ear. Just below that yet closer towards the front of the neck I’ll apply hedione spray, generally 1 spray on each side and 1 on my Adam’s apple.
Just some quick thoughts on cannabis and pheromones.
So as it turns out I think failed to consider a key factor in how cannabis is altering my pheromones.
Science and research seems to strongly suggest that cannabis use lowers plasma T levels and sperm count. So it obviously lowers testosterone which will lower levels of androstenone. However I overlooked the fact that testosterone isn’t only a precursor to androstenone but to androstenol and androsterone. So simply increasing androstenone levels shouldn’t logically fix the problem.
So basically I also need to increase the other levels, perhaps. It’s beyond me whether the levels of pheromones decrease at the same rate but I think adding anol and/or rone will help fix this issue. I know there are other mones that are byproducts but I think these are the most prominent.
This seems to make sense seeing as the increase in -none based products only barely helped the mix.
**What’s my sig…?
For a long time I’ve been trying to understand our signatures.
Me, being mixed white, Asian, and black, I believe I have an interesting signature.
Firstly, I’d wager I have a fairly universal sig. Rather than leaning more one way or the other with pheromones my genetics tell my body to spray out more of a balanced sig. I believe this is why I generally am able to have successful mixes work on all women across the board.
I also believe this is why I am able to use simple mixes like TUTH/TAC and it work so well universally for social or sexual use.
My thoughts are like this…
If black and Hispanic women can handle more -none then it stands to reason that their men must naturally produce more.
Likewise if Asian women handle -Rone better, then their men must be bigger -rone producers.
And based on my observations white women can handle them all really well, so perhaps white men produce a good amount of them all?
So…
Rather than being a highly rone producer or a highly none or whatever I probably am more balanced and ‘in the middle’.
So let’s say an Asian man put on the TUTH/TAC mix I wear.
He is likely to have a significant amount of -rone to buffer it and perhaps destroy the mix. So he might want to up the TUTH or lower the TAC respectively.
Now I feel if we have a better understanding of our genetics we could better gauge our pheromone needs.
I believe this also means that when I’m concocting a mix it should really have ‘balance to it’. If I have a sexual I’ll need a social to buffer it. If I have a social I’ll need a sexual to buffer it.
This makes a lot of sense to me as well seeing as in the past I’ve always seem to have to ‘balance the equation’ when applying mones.
Of course there is anol too, but I don’t know how race plays a role with anol.
…so based on my last 2 posts I believe I must focus on increasing rone.
The reason I’m choosing rone and anol is because my mixes don’t see to have issues with being social, but maybe more so in respect and seriousness. I find people can be quite comical and giddy still.
Very interesting observations on this. I am white a mix of German and Irish I believe. Without mones I seem to attract women 45+ naturally white/Indian/and Hispanic are the main ones and I am constantly hit on by this ethnic/age range. But what is weird is with the younger crowd under 25 I have not issues and they seem to socially engage me quite frequent with no attraction there at all.
One of my main goto mixes is REV32/IS/P96 and it seems to cover everyone young and old alike.
I like your new index and it gives me idea for mine. I was thinking of writing some posts on cougar mixes after reading your index. I would like to put something together as we all have something to bring to the table.
Nice posts. So where did you find this little 20’s brunette? … Interesting your observations on cannabis as I smoke a truck load and hardly ever supplement enone… If anything I think I produce a lot of it naturally, even though I’m a quarter Asian.
thanks a ton justintime for sharing those stats, it really helps!
Wow that is interesting. My whole life, especially teens, I’ve sort of have drawn attention from white, black, and Hispanic women quite equally, a little from Asian women as well but I think Asian women are generally too reserved for me to have noticed their interest. And this has been consistently through all age groups.
That looks like an interesting mix. I cannot figure out why IS never ever worked for me. I just ordered some A314 1.32B, first time ever having any A314 and I’m looking forward to testing it. Any pointers or advice? How do you think it will pair with TUTH/TAC combos?
Hey thanks man, the index was actually a spin off of your guide, because when I saw it my mind thought 'genius!" Really great idea you had there.
I feel like the faster and more efficiently we can share, translate, and find information here in the forum the faster and more effectively we can increase our understanding of these molecules and improve.
That would be awesome if you could share the cougar mixes for sure!
Oh yeah, one more thing. I think you mentioned it before but can you reiterate what specific tweaks you had to make to mix 1 in order to get it to work best for you and can you tell me which races it worked best on?
Thanks again for all the help and feedback!
Thanks! I met that one online. if you’re mixed my guess is your sig will be pretty well balanced. I like to think of it as races are like pheromones themselves.
Quarter Asian means you have a quarter -rone to balance whatever else you’re pulling. For instance, me..
If I’m pulling a quarter Asian (-rone heavy), + half white (balance? Of -none, -nol, -rone) + quarter black (-none heavy) it’s like I’m a walking IG + Ammo + TUTH. With Anmo being the dominant 2:1 ratio to the TUTH and IG. Well, not precisely but you understand what I’m saying.
IG + ammo + TUTH is like sexy, fun, flirty, sexual, trustworthy, kind of vibe and that has been my experience as well and it would make sense that adding just TUTH buffered would take all that and make it a little more sexual and add some male dominance. Perhaps that’s why TUTH/TAC seems to be all I need.
I have not used the spray versions of the A314. For me with the oil the oil does balance the TUTH out a little. I usually find I can wear 2 drops to 1 spray of 1X with pretty decent results, I usually can not go much strong than that. With A314 I have found P96 is a must have and I am holding on to every bit I have right now because of the shortage. The P96 smooth’s out the notorious intimidation factor and does not at all take away from it and makes people connect with you.
The Hedione will detract a little from the status of the A314, but this may go well because it may help you be able to wear a stronger A314 base. It detracts from the Rone and not the None.
The TAC should help the A314 out as well and so you are not taken so seriously and you should be able to wear a nice dose of the A314. Actually I have found if the A314 has got people to be way to serious, I just put on around 10MCG to balance it out and lighten the mood up of everyone.
A314 is very status heavy so definitely TAC is a good one to have especially with the P96 shortage and this will be the one I will use in place of the P96 if I run out. P96 is my favorite with A314 because it smooth’s out the Rone and None very well. P74 is also another alternative if the vibe is to serious or you want to soften the A314 a little and I choose 5MCG at a time for this. P131 brought a slight sensual touching to the TUTH and at low doses with A314 worked like this to.
I can not remember the races now and even looked back in my paper journal and am still trying to dig around right now, but if I find it I will post it.
Well I love the index/guide ideas and yours looks good especially with how you did the color scheme as it makes it browsing through much easier and may redo mine soon.
Race code
I’m sharing this quote to assist in explaining the theory I am presenting..
I have a theory based on the science of racial influence on pheromones meaning certain racial genetics will cause certain pheromone sigs and certain races will respond better to certain mones. This theory will convert pheromones to a numerical value to be able to calculate pheromone outputs and requirements by means of addition.
With regards to this theory I will only relate to 4 types of women, white, Hispanic, black, and Asian…
And 3 types of pheromones, androstEnone, androsteRone, and AndrosteNol.
This theory will work on a points system where a number 1 will indicate the ‘dominant -mones’, all other mones will not be denoted numerically.
Firstly, the basics..
These females respond best to these dominant mones…
White - eNone, eRone, Anol (balanced)
Hispanic - eNone
Black - eNone
Asian - eRone
So that must mean that their male counterparts must be producers in those..
Now to the math..
I am 50% white, 25% black, 25% Asian.
If we apply a numerical value of 1 to each dominant pheromone per race we can do some addition.
The numerical value will be placed in order from eNone -> eRone -> Anol..
Ex:
A white male would have a numerical value of 1:1:1 because all three pheromones are equally dominant.
A black male would have a numerical ratio of 1 : : .
So now we can do the addition for me as a mixed person.
We take the numerical of a white male “1:1:1”
A black male "1: : ",
And a Asian male " :1: "…
The actual addition:
1:1:1
1: :
- :1:
But since it is 50% white and the others are 25%, the white is double the point amount than each of the black and Asian. So the black and Asian would be 0.5 points.
Once added up you get…
1.5:1.5:1
Which means roughly my sig puts out a mix that has an equal amount of eNone and aRone and they are both 50% greater than Anol.
Now when I add my TUTH/TAC (to which I’ll add 1 point to eNone since eNone is the dominant) the equation becomes..
1.5:1.5:1
1: :
+
2.5:1.5:1
Now I have noted that this mix works quite well all across the board with races of women but specifically it appears to go
White -> Hispanic -> black -> Asian
Now here’s where I believe it all connects.
As noted in justintime 's quote, when he uses the very same mix he gets the same results except the order of women is different to which he said
Hispanic -> Indian -> white
(We’ll focus on white and Hispanic)
…but when swapping ammo for TUTH he gets the same order as me..
Let’s start with his numerical points. He is white male so roughly 1:1:1
If he adds TUTH/TAC (1 point eNone) it becomes
2:1:1…
But if it were ammo, it would be an extra point for eRone.
Making it…
2:2:1..
Now if we look at the values of the ratios and translate them into pheromones we can see what’s happening.
First, mine was 2.5:1.5:1
Which means it is highly sexual but buffered well with eRone to make it more respectable and serious, and just a touch of lightness with the Anol.
This one would logically make sense to work the best on white women because though it’s highly sexual it is well buffered with eRone. If it wasn’t buffered and it was more sexual it would probably hit the ethnics first.
Now justintime’s was 2:1:1
Which means it is highly sexual but not very buffered and not buffered in one particular direction. The eRone and Anol are about equal and probably just enough to make the eNone manageable.
This one would logically hit the ethnic women first.
Now when justintime swaps the TUTH for the Ammo the ratio becomes.. 2:2:1
This means it isn’t quite highly sexual but is just enough sexual and masculine balance with a tiny bit of lightness to smooth it over.
Logically this would work well for white women first before ethnic.
I want to show and express this numerical system more visually but I don’t know if I can upload a pic here..
Of course the numbers aren’t precise but in theory it works. And age, diet, and lifestyle are factors as well. But for now I’ll leave those out.
I think this can help us calculate mathematically which mones to add in which dosages to work for certain women/men in certain ways..
Now the actual mcgs won’t be calculated by this method, that will take testing, but I still see this as a shortcut to bypass a lot of testing.
In order for the theory to be vindicated, predictions must be made and application must verify the predictions.
Here’s an example prediction:
If a full Asian man wanted to get full benefits from the TUTH TAC combo as I do, he must reach a ‘racial code’ of “2.5:1.5:1”
Theoretically he would start with a :1: base.
So he would need a ratio of 2.5:0.5:1
This could perhaps consist of 2 sprays TUTH, 0.5 spray Ammo, and 1 spray IO. And maybe some TAC to buffer better. When applying the 1 point for the dominant mones.
Now to try and convert micrograms into ‘points’…
Interesting theory. 
I hope many would test this and report.
Wow amazing and let’s come up with something to test this theory out. I have spent the last 3 hours scouring the internet and can not find the exact enough I was looking for on this. I actually have None and Rone and both Nols as single molecules to.
I just got an order in and very first thing is I plan to test P104 and provide a report as it was sent as a freebie(Thank You Androtics) as I try to test the freebies first out of respect for what they do for us. After this I am in and let’s team up and see what we can come up with and you never know maybe some other members can offer insight or maybe even willing to test to, so give me ideas and what you need from me and I am all in on this and what I can test with what ethnic groups are around me.
Just to clarify when I am talking about Indian I am referring to Native Americans as I live here in AZ and there are a lot of tribes here, I did not want someone thinking I am referring to say someone from India which they may refer to as Indian(No offensive to any ethnic group just needed to clarify).
I can test with specific regards to race with Rone, None, and A and B-Nol all separately. I can also maybe try TUTH and Ammo or anything you see fit. So if you come up with something and help me out what I need to do I will make it happen. It may be a long process, but if anyone benefits from it, then it is worth it in my book.
Thanks Dee! I hope so too!
@justintime
Hey I’m totally up for it, I’m all in too. This has been intriguing me and I know there is something to it. That’s awesome you have None, Rone, and Nol.. That will be perfect for testing!
Ah I see Native American, hmm, If I was a betting man I’d wager native Americans are similar in genetics to Hispanics. But I don’t know.
I’m excited for you to be on board man!
And yeah whenever you’re ready, I’m interested to read your results on p104 as well.
Ok so if this theory is going to work or make sense the foundation must be laid and laid well. I consider the foundation to be the racial ratios, shown here below..
(Male dominant pheromone output)
White - eNone, eRone, Anol (balanced equally)
Hispanic - eNone dominant
Black - eNone dominant
Asian - eRone dominant
I invite all scrutiny. I plan to spend some time researching to make sure these numbers are fitting.
The next thing I think should be predictions and testing. Emphasis on predictions. I think we should be able to know what will happen and the testing will confirm it.
I think a lot of testing without predictions should be made as well to “reverse engineer” the theory. Kind of like what I did yesterday when I saw the correlation between you swapping ammo for TUTH and getting a different female racial sequence.
Also, since you’re limited racially where you live perhaps we should focus on the races we have in common. I have basically all races where I live except Native American, ironically. The majority are white, Hispanic, Asian, black.
Honestly I don’t even know where to begin, so many thoughts are running through my head.
I have an idea though with regards to you having eNone, eRone, and -Nol.
When you said you’d swap TUTH for ammo I stated your ratio became 2:2:1 to which I said is sexually driven but buffered well with eRone.
Now if the numbers are too far off this should mean that you should be able to near duplicate these results with the single molecules (closely, because lack of steering molecules)..
So if your base sig is 1:1:1 you’d need to achieve 1:1: which means 1points worth of eNone and 1 point worth of eRone. Now here is where it gets tricky because there is no mcg -> point conversion so I believe the mcgs will be whatever amount is need for an effect to be seen.
But by simply adding eNone and eRone (perhaps with TAC to smooth it over) you should be able to duplicate the ammo/TAC closely or at least get the same racial sequence..
I think another good method of testing would be to look at mixes that weren’t successful to see if there is a correlation with ratio to success.
I was looking at the ratios of some of my most successful mixes and there seems to be a pattern. My more successful mixes tended to have ratios that were equal or close to equal.
Ex:
2.6:2:1.5
This ratio (starting from the right) is increasing steadily by 33%.
5:2:1
This ratio however starts off increasing 100%, then 150%.
My mixes that tended the first ratio seemed more successful than the second.
It makes sense to me because the second ratio shows far too much eNone and not enough buffering for it.
Which makes me think true successful ratios will have low percentage increases.
I think another good way to test would be to take a successful mix (for either of us) and apply the ‘racial ratio’ for the other person and adjust it accordingly. Theoretically the other person should get the same results.
Ex:
Let’s say you tell me 1 spray TUTH with 1 spray ammo with 1 spray IH is a good mix for Hispanics..
That’s 1:1:1 + 1: : (TUTH) + 1:1: (ammo) + : :1 (IH) =
3:2:2
But I try it…
That’s 1.5:1.5:1 + 1: : (TUTH) + 1:1: (ammo) + : : 1 (IH) =
3.5:2.5:2
And then tell you that mixes works on whites for me..
I should be able to take that information and slightly tweak the mix so it still does what it does, just for Hispanic and not whites..
I think we could conjure up some successful (yet simple) mixes so we can cross reference.
Here’s a little quick prediction.
I am waiting on some A314 32b in the mail that I plan to test with mix 1.
My ratio with mix 1 is 2.5:1.5:1
And with 1 point for eRone from the A314 (1 spray/dose) my ratio should be..
2.5:2.5:1
But I won’t be taking it without multivitamin supplementation so the multivitamin will probably slightly raise the eNone side (my guess because when taking a multi I had to up the social to buffer it, suggesting it was too sexual).
I’ll give 0.5 point to the eNone from the multi..
Making it..
3:2.5:1
My prediction is this might be a little too serious and fairly sexual. Not because the eNone and eRone are so high but because the -Nol is so low. My prediction is, if it does work, women shouldn’t be playful or light much if at all. I might come off as too serious and people might even feel fear perhaps? I predict this should strike white women harder over ethnic. And lastly, this mix might not even work for the fact that the percentages jump up 150% first, then only 20%.
Here’s a little quick prediction.
I am waiting on some A314 32b in the mail that I plan to test with mix 1.
My ratio with mix 1 is 2.5:1.5:1
And with 1 point for eRone from the A314 my ratio should be..
2.5:2.5:1
But I won’t be taking it without multivitamin supplementation so the multivitamin will probably slightly raise the eNone side (my guess because when taking a multi I had to up the social to buffer it, suggesting it was too sexual).
I’ll give 0.5 point to the eNone from the multi..
Making it..
3:2.5:1
My prediction is this might be a little too serious and fairly sexual. Not because the eNone and eRone are so high but because the -Nol is so low. My prediction is, if it does work, women shouldn’t be playful or light much if at all. I might come off as too serious and people might even feel fear perhaps? I predict this should strike white women harder over ethnic. Lastly I predict it might have a chance of failure because the percentage increase starts with 150% increase then only 20%.
I’d like to take a quick second to share my thoughts on percentage importance with regards racial ratio theory.
I believe it is much like pH nutrient lockout.
I’m a gardener, I’ve grow fruits, vegetables, ornamentals, cannabis, and several other types of plants and if you know about growing it’s about an NPK ratio. Now N is generally for growth while P and K are for flowering. You’d generally want to alter the ratios to meet the plant in the stage that it is in. Likewise with -mones the ‘stage’ is like the results you’d want to achieve.
Now in agriculture there is this thing called pH nutrient lockout. Certain plants prefer certain pH medium levels and if strayed too far from it they can experience nutrient lockout to where nutrients become unavailable to be absorbed.
pH is a measure of acidity and alkalinity ranging from 0-14, low side being acidic and high side being alkaline. 7 is about neutral and is close to the pH of human blood. Some plants I’ve grown prefer around 5.5-6.5 pH.
I believe this is a similar scenario. If the ratios become too far from each other we can experience a dead mix, or even ghosting. The balance has been lost and is rendered ‘non-absorbable’.
Likewise with agriculture, if you’re able to maintain the pH you are generally able to add more nutrients. This is especially important in cannabis growing seeing as you want the most weight you can get out of it so we add as much nutrients as possible without teetering the scales.
In this case, I would liken the pH of the plants to percentage changes within the ratio.
So my thoughts are…
We should be able to theoretically add a lot (not infinite) but a lot of pheromones and make great mixes, as long as we maintain that ratio balance.
But most importantly, the ratios should be kept tidy so the mix works effectively or more effectively.