Juche's trip reports

I am new to pheromones and have only tried them 3 times, with varying results.

The first time was last saturday (the 21st). I used 1 spray of Pherlure on my wrists. I noticed I felt a little more reckless when driving (ie I’d look down and see I was speeding all the time) but aside from that, no real effects.

The second time was on the 25th before I went into work. I sprayed a spray on each wrist of Pherlure before work just to see what the effects would be. While driving to work (I drive a truck with a regular cab and the windows rolled up) I started to feel very alpha and self confident like no matter what problem I ever face in life I can solve it by myself, I’m guessing pherlure puts alot of androstenone in their stuff. By the time I got to work it was almost like I was on drugs, the effects were so intense. Luckily when I got there and was in an open air environment (and not trapped in a cab of a vehicle) the effects wore off.

When I got into work at the lab there were 3 coworkers. A male who is 50, a 44 year old female and a 24 year old female (I’m not attracted to the 24 year old female, but want to see the effects). The 44 year old female loved the cologne, and said more than once how I can into work ‘smelling all beautiful’. I have wore scents to work before and she hasn’t said anything like that. I also noticed that throughout the day I was a little more talkative with the 50 year old man, so I wonder if pherlure puts some androstenol in their product too. I had insomnia that night and intense sex thoughts about a woman I knew in college, so it was almost like spanish fly in that regard.

All in all pherlure has intense effects on me, but I seem to OD easy and it is too intense a scent for a work environment. Because I noticed the 50 year old man getting kindof edgy I washed it off in the bathroom not long after I got to work (I have read this is a side effects of some pheromones, making other men edgier).

I got some instant honesty, shine, openness and TUTH from this site and am going to try those. I’m not trying TUTH at work, but I’m sure I’ll find some place to try it.

Today I sprayed 1.5 sprays of 1x instant honesty on one wrist and 1 spray of 1x instant shine on the other wrist before work.

A weird effect I noticed as I was driving to work was I had almost a low key panic attack. The feeling you get when your emotions feel really negative and hollow. If you haven’t had one it is hard to describe, but if a regular panic attack is a 8/10 this would be a 3/10 and was manageable.

The smell was so minor I don’t think anyone even knew I was wearing cologne.

The 24 year old woman I mentioned earlier is very insecure and self conscious to the point where she won’t express her opinions on most anything for fear of being scolded or criticized. I have tried to talk to her about religion, politics and fields like that in the past but she is so apologetic about the fact that she has any opinions at all, it is hard to get anything out of her.

So today I noticed she was winking at me alot which I’ve never seen her do before (I hope she isn’t attracted to me due to this stuff and it was more of a friendly wink) and she started going into long speils about her beliefs on religion and catholicism to the point where after 5 minutes she had to stop and basically say ‘I don’t know why I’m gabbing like this, I’m sorry if I’m offending you guys’. It sounds like little, but her personality has always been the exact opposite. Then she goes into a talk about what hygiene products and bathing products she uses, which is far more personal stuff than I normally get from her.

So overall, the instant honesty seemed to work pretty well on the 24 year old, but I didn’t notice anything from the 44 year old. I had other experiences, but those may be placebos or just coincidence. I’d say these effects are the ones that stand out enough to make me think it was the pheromones.

I had strong self effects too. I noticed that today I was extremely introspective, more than usual. I was evaluating pains and achievements in my life with a stronger intensity than normal.

Its interesting because with the pherlure the 44 year old woman seemed to be affected strongly, but not the 24 year old. With the honesty and shine it was the opposite effect.

Tomorrow I"m going to try both openness and honesty and see the results.

If you easily OD on -none, then take it very easy with the TUTH. It’s pretty heavy with -none. From what I understand, -none is the main ingredient in Pherlure.

Also, simply washing off -none based products with soap and water won’t get it all off. You need to use rubbing alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, witch hazel or something else exfoliating. Worst case, scrub the area well, as the -none will build up and cause and overdose.

More androstenone=older women. Seems to be popping up in the forums that OD’ing on TUTH brings out the older ladies.

Ok, I’ve been out of this for a while and have been using pheromones for the last couple weeks and want to update my journal.

I do not think I notice any effects from IO, in fact the only effect I notice it is almost makes me feel ‘hollow’ inside, almost like I’m suffering from anxiety or heartbreak. But I haven’t noticed people becoming more talkative. Weird. I seem to almost be getting panic attacks, and I think it is tied into androstenol. However they are manageable and they pass quickly.

However I do get effects from IH. I love IH. Today I wore IH and IG to work. 2 sprays of IG to the sides of the neck, 2 sprays of 1x IH with 1 on each wrist. I went into work and the receptionist and I were talking, and she tells me her husband is an alcoholic (she hadn’t even told me she was married before this, but I knew from other coworkers). When I got into the lab the other workers were blabbing personal secrets. One said she used to give her kids swirlies in the bathroom when they were little (which is bad, but the fact that she’d admit to it is a good sign). Then another worker was telling all these embarassing stories of being sexually harassed at department stores by female employees there. People were telling all kinds of personal stories. Not sure what role IH played in it, but I’m sure it played a role.

I have tried A314 with IH, IS and IO. I do not think I noticed any benefits from IO. I feel that A314 works better with IH and IS. However using IG with IH seems to get people talking more than using A314 with IH. I’m guessing people are less intimidated by me when I use IG rather than A314.

Another thing I noticed is when I wear A314 people get out of the hallway when I pass, and give me a wide berth (they will stop and step aside when I am going in the same hallway). When I wear IG people aren’t doing that, we just kind of lean away.

Another great benefit I noticed from A314 and IG is that it makes little kids like you more. My brother has 2 and 4 year old daughters and I noticed that they were far more playful and affectionate when I was wearing IG or A314. I thought this was a fluke, but saw someone else on this forum say the same thing happened to him. So that is an underrated benefit since I don’t always get to see my nieces.

Again, I am fairly new and I’d have to do far more experiments. I think I’m going to buy some putatives. I’m thinking P74, P79, P83 sound good. I hear people get good effects from P74 & IG.

So so far I am loving IH, IG and A314. IO doesn’t seem to do anything. I do not notice anything from IS either (either self effects or effects on others). However maybe IO and IS are doing something and I’m not noticing it.

P83 is supposedly a disinhibition putative, so combining that with IH should be fun. I’ve heard P74 stacks great with IH too.

I would love to find a stack that works for me that breaks down personal and social barriers. P74, P83, IG, IH all will play a role and I’m sure there are other putatives that would help with that too.

Today I decided to try IG & Ammo. I did 2 sprays of IG (one to each side of the neck) and 2 sprays of Ammo. One to the wrist, the other to the back of the neck.

That was too much androstenone. Ammo has as much -none as TUTH, so I got 5mcg. Way too much. I found myself becoming impatient and easily frustrated, and it took effort to not be openly rude sometimes. It wasn’t as bad as the pherlure but it still wasn’t something I enjoyhed. If I try this mix again I’m doing 2 sprays of IG and 1 spray of Ammo.

Anyway, it gave a different feeling. I felt more like the life of the party than the aloof authority I tend to feel like on A314 or IG. I went to a grocery store later that day and think I got a hit. Walked past 2 girls about 20, didn’t say anything but as I was in the checkout counter they stopped in the isle I was in and stood about 5 feet away while looking at/thumbing through products (same products on every isle, but they stopped at mine). I’m guessing that may’ve been a hit, but I really need to try the IG & Ammo combo at a party or some other social event with tons of women to get a better perspective.

Another thing that happened is that today I started having some personal troubles that I needed to address, and asked a coworker to meet me in a private room and we talked for about an hour about deep, personal issues.

I am kindof confused as to which pheromone contributed to that. I wore 2 sprays of IH yesterday but today I was wearing Ammo & IG. I know Ammo has some socials in it to buffer the -none, so that probably contributed. However I read IG is 12.5mcg androsterone and 2.5mcg TAK/TAC. I am looking at posts in the archives and some say that TAK or TAC are good for getting people to open up and talk. I’m guessing the socials in Ammo and the TAC did it.

Maybe I need to get some TAC and IH, that is a good combo. This stuff is so much fun to learn.