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Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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I noticed that when it comes to mixing different products in the same bottle I have had very strange results. I have been using my Midnight for Men by Bath&Body Works and will post a link if anyone is interested in the ingredients in it.

So what I have found is that when I put a few different pheromones in the same bottle that sometimes they work ok and sometimes they don’t it is like a crap shoot. I have had more trouble with the TUTH mixes and have had decent luck with IS mixes. So I am sure there are many factors that cause this including my choice of cologne to use instead of PA that most use.

When I break down single molecules like P75 or P96 I don’t have much of a problem at all and get consistent effects with no problems.

Now I do notice that when I use FF21 Ammo scent verse the Neroli I have a little better luck. But in all fairness I have better luck anyway with the same putative and same strength for example I had better luck with P74 2.5 MCG a spray in 6% Ammo verse P74 2.5 MCG a spray in 6% Neroli.

So I think it is completely ok to break things down and get good results, but I will more than likely not be mixing different products in the same bottle.

Now I realize cologne may not be the best choice either to use instead of PA. I have had really good luck with it though. There are just so many factors that I find it best to order the scent and strength you want and keep it at that. This is just my experience and what I got and as always I do welcome any suggestions. I just have to many putatives that I got from a big order I got from Pago and need to break them down for testing purposes and to be usable.

I encourage anyone reading this to also look into Von Phero, and Jdubs journal as they have done testing on this as well and you can read about there experience.

Here is the link to the cologne I have been using to break things down. My wife got a bunch of this on a lot deal on ebay and that is why I am using.

http://www.bathandbodyworks.com/product/index.jsp?productId=24312896

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Personally I prefer dabbing/spraying cologne separetly from pheromones, just like I do with hedione. Colognes are so darn expensive I would’nt want to end up with some unusable mix in a bottle :slight_smile:. I fear interactions or altered maturation of direct contact between mones and colognes too.

But I’ll sure have a look at the B&B cologne and list of ingredients. What’s the price range? Similar to L’Occitane products?

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I think my wife got 6 bottles for $60 shipped on ebay at the time. They are in the store normally around $35 a bottle. I got a big order from Pago and realized a lot of the doses were really high to test so I used this cologne because this is what I had. I tried right out of the bottle and then tried the same dosage with more sprays of the molecule mix with this cologne and haven’t had any issues.

I haven’t had any issues with the Hedione either when mixing it was just all the other pheromones. I don’t know if they all clash with each other or what.

So I will be just spraying from the bottle in how they come except the ones I have right now the way they are being broke down with my cologne.

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Wow, cheap stuff price-wise then. And how would you describe the smell? Women love it? Can you show that link to the ingredients list?

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IS is my most used consumer product for sure. For me I find P74 seems to buffer this crash a little and goes well with this. There is no sexualness to this at all but being married I really don’t care. I have TUTH for that around bed time.

P74/IS works really great almost like a synergistic effect. I don’t get the crash from shine like before. A lot of bonding and friendliness. Not good for sexual at all and needs one but I am married so I don’t care about this until later on. Great self effects. I wear 2 sprays 1X and around 10 MCG of P74.

P96/IS The P96 seems to buffer crash as well. I wear 2 1X Shine to 20 MCG or higher P96. With this combo I feel more connected to things and can find the beauty in just about anything. Kind of close to the IS/P74 but the P96 is more like a beautifier to me and seems to enhance emotions but in a good way.

IS/P103 works ok to but the problem with that one is it is like a mindless happiness which can be good or bad, and that does help with being scatter brained. But I feel like I lose a little focus with it like a slight trade off. Helps with the crash of IS also. I find I need at least 15 MCG of P103 and even better around 25 MCG or so to my 2 to 3 sprays of 1X shine.

IS/P91 With P91 I get a slight drunk happiness like I had a few drinks. I didn’t like this setup as well as others. I still think P91 is a great putative. Very social happy and uplifting when used with IS. I tried 5 to 15 MCG of P91 with this.

IS/TAC The TAC didn’t get rid of the crash, but it did make the coming down from the shine a smoother ride. There is this bluntness about TAC when speaking to people where I just speak what is on my mind but in a good positive way. A disinhibiting mix. I seem to have better sleep if I wear this to bed. Sometimes I have more vivid dreams like this does something to REM sleep cycle.

IS/131 3 sprays 1X shine to 15 MCG P131. This mix to me is like a cross between shine and P74, P96, and P91. The P131 has many faces and transition at many different doses. At 5 MCG P131 is like P74 and around 15 MCG it is more like P91. The P131 adds a flirty touchiness to the IS with a dash of bonding. This Mix draws people right in and makes you the center of attention. People will want to touch you not in a sexual way but more like a hug, handshake, or pat you on your back. Works well on men and women. Very attention grabbing.

IS/P79 2 sprays 1X shine and 10 MCG P79. The P79 is seems to intensify the IS and emotions for me. So I think what happens here is the IS puts me in a good mood and then P79 comes in to intensify that feeling. I don’t suggest this mix though and the reason why is you will crash hard with the P79.

A314/IS/P74 This is the holy grail mix and I have to give credit to Treehugger for this one as it is his mix. This is my primary work mix. People respect you and this can be turned sexual just the way it is if you make it go there. The P74 is a good buffer for the intimidation factor of A314 and the IS makes everyone in a good mood. With A314 oil I have to refresh the IS 2 times and the P74 1 time to one app of the A314 oil. 2 drops A314 Rev 32, 2 sprays 1X IS, 10 MCG P74. I find 10 MCG is a good buffer I would suggest 10 to 20 MCG.

A314/P96/IS Very similar to the mix above. Again the P96 buffers the None in the A314 so there is less intimidation and irritating guys with this one. This can be a little much for work IMO with the women. If you work more around men this is a really good mix. 2 drops A314 Rev 32, 2 sprays 1X IS, 20 MCG of P96. 20 MCG of P96 works well for both men and women, around 40 MCGS of P96 seems to make a few of the women get a little to friendly with me.

IS/Hedione I have had good look with getting attention with this one. Not very sexual so needs Ammo, TUTH, or A314 if you want that sexual spark with women. This grabs women attention though way more than IS alone. 2 spray IS 1X to 2 to 3 dabs or 3 sprays of 30% Hedione spray.

I thought I would post this as everyone seems to be on an IS kick now instead of TUTH. These are just my personal experiences. Actually I started writing in Kimberly journal and just kept going with it. So I hope this is useful to someone. If anyone sees something in my collection from my signature I am willing to try it out if I haven’t yet reported on it.

I do want to thank everyone and say I do appreciate each and everyone here. This is a great community and a fun hobby. Between the pheromones and everyone here it has really improved my life for the better. So I thank you all.

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Hey Conjurator sorry I got on a kick there with IS. Ok here is the link. Now this is probably not as good as higher end colognes, but this is what my wife likes. It has a sweet scent to it and settles really light compared to other colognes. The Neroli seems to make the scent slighty stronger.

Midnight For Men Cologne - Signature Collection - Bath & Body Works

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Yeah, the holidays are coming up. Gotta get in the mood. That reminds me I better get a large bottle of IShine soon. I appreciate your work in testing IShine with putatives. Tonight I’ll try IShine, P96, and A314.

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Oh thank you I just might edit my list because I was still waking up and forgot to mention with Hedione and A314 thanks Hank.

Yes P96 seems to seamlessly bridge A314 and shine and think you will like that one.

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Nominated, dude. Great post!

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Oh thank you. I was just added more info to it I was just telling Hank. I was half asleep when I wrote this. I was actually writing in Kimberly journal and got carried away and thought you know what I will just make a whole write up.

IS is my favorite by far and can be used with anything. This is why I always suggest for new users. As far as the crash IMO P74 seems to stop this the best and I have no issues. P96 I would have to say is a close second.

Again thank you guys for being Awesome and I am glad I can contribute to this awesome community.

So I made an order and can’t wait to try out some new things. I ordered IS/A, IS/B, PL(for men), MX274, MX300, and MX335.

These are all women’s except the PL. I am excited to try these and see the reactions I will get. Lillian and Hank has inspired me to do this from reading there journals. I want to see how women’s pheromones will work on men and women when worn by a male user.

I am very comfortable with who I am and my sexuality to do this. I will be reporting on them here and sending them to AD also.

I really am trying to understand not only the pheromones themselves, but also how they work and effect different genders. Seeing from Lillians success with TUTH and A314 this has really got me curious on how these things work.

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Look at you!!! I get absorbed in the workday and find you’ve tested the KITCHEN SINK!!! :smiley: :smiley:

I echo your sentiments about the community. The regular posters are a great help and the new users like Kimberly definitely bring a lot to the table and things I never think of also. It really is fantastic to be able to share this after a CRAZY day especially, but also in general to just be more comfortable, be happier, to have fuller, better, more enjoyable days. Best hobby EVER!!!

I may have success with A314, but I have to live up to the shoes now…I got a really short deadline on another HUGE presentation…maybe not so much A314 at work :wink: na, it’ll be alright.

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P7… Report

This report is also in the putative forum. The last number is the way it is to respect the Reporting Users.

So instead of days I broke this down by dosage as it was easier for me. It was suggested I start very low on dosage so I order P7… in 5 MCG a spray 6% Ammo scent. I broke down to 1 MCG in a Togo bottle for testing. I mixed 1 ML of my P7… to 4 ML of my Midnight for men by Bath&Body Works cologne.

1 MCG

1 spray to throat. Within 5 minutes I feel more grounded and solid almost like I do with A314. I was in a good mood before I applied but feel even in a better mood now. I feel almost like I do with anything with Rone in it. I feel like a manager and kind of in get shit done mode, not quite like A314 but in a little softer way. Tasks seems easier to do than before. I am kind of shocked that 1 MCG does this for me. I think this would be worth looking at in the Nano range. 1 MCG is good for me so far.

2 MCG

s spray on neck 1 left and 1 right. I feel even more grounded, solid, and confident then before. I feel more like a masculine man. I notice within 10 minutes I don’t seem to care about the small things that would normally irritate me like dirty dishes in the sink. Within 20 minutes my confidence is really increased and I can make decisions much easier to. Very decisive.

I go to eat at a local Mexican restaurant there is a family ahead of us. The wife is about middle 30’s blonde about an 8, looks at me smiles and says hi, so I smile and say hi back. I am with wife and kid and we sit down on bench next to them to wait for our table. The husband starts starring at me giving dirty looks as he is facing me. I normally would feel bad, but honestly I just smile and could care less and this must be some effects of this P7…

We finally get seated and what do you know it is right next to the family with the husband that seems pissed already. Again the husband starts starring at me and I smile and don’t let it bother me. He seems so bothered that he looks at his daughter (maybe 11) and says her in a very commanding way to switch chairs with him. So they switch chairs and his back is now to my front. He is maybe 6 to 8 feet from me and in the outer edge of the mone cloud.

Our waitress comes over and is all smiles. It is busy and I am a regular here and she is usually all business, but today for as hectic as it is she is happy to see me. She is abnormally way more attentive than normal. We get to eat and then I grab the bill and pay it.

3 MCG

So now I am getting a slight irritation factor as our daughter is being a little wound up and obnoxious and just being a kid. So I am wondering if the 2 MCG is my sweet spot for this. We go to pet store to get some dog food. I notice an employee about 20/M white there. I decide to make small talk to see what kind of reaction I get. I go and talk to him and he is very short with me and seems irritated. I thank him and walk around the store some more. I notice another employee there 30/W White, so I go and talk to her and she is all smiles and over friendly. At one point she just was starring at me and not talking at all. I thank her and decide to walk around some more.

So I am seeing that women love this thing but guys get irritated or even possibly feel threatened by this at 3 MCG.

4 MCG TO 7MCG

I decide to add a spray on left wrist and smear to right wrist. I feel slightly more annoyed with my daughter than I did with 3 MCG. So what I notice here is that the higher I go on dosage the more the irritation factor sets in, but what is interesting is the more that women seem interested. This is like a bad boy molecule. I feel great also but find anything over 3 MCG for me is a waste. I didn’t see this thing transition like a lot of molecules tend to do. It may at higher doses, but I only went to 7 MCG as I found what I was happy with around 1 MCG to 2 MCG. My sweet spot is 2 MCG.

Strength I give a 9 very strong and it more hit me over the head as well as others.

Length of Effects I had good effects for around 4 to 6 hours out of this one for me when I used 2 sprays, but at just one spray I got closer to 3 to 4 hours.

Tenacity I think this thing attacks people for sure. More on the aggressive side.

Effectiveness & Consistency Very consistent and stays them the same with time.

Diffusion/Sillage My mone cloud was around 6 feet or so

Overall very useful for me. I am not a super masculine man, but not a beta type either. This thing really completes me I think more than other pheromones. Brings out a masculine side of me which I found really useful.

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This goes with above report

P7…/P74 combo

I found this mix to work really well for me. I got the Idea from HankBuddy journal and thought that the P74 would soften the P7… a little to make it more useable. I found 1MCG of P7… to about 2.5 to 3 MCG of P74 very useful.

I wore 2 MCG of P7… to 5 of P74.

Everyone is now in a happier mood and guys don’t seem as irritated. Once in a while I got a small smirk from a guy, but overall this seemed to work well and at these dosages for me. I do think P7… is very useable in a mix and from this test has proved to me it can be steered a little to get rid of some of the negatives like the self irritation, and pissing other guys off while in public. Even with my daughter acting up sometimes I am not at all irritated like before.

I even tried 4 MCG of P7… to 10 MCG of P74 to see if I would get the irritation and none at all so I am very happy with this.

So 1 part P7… to 2.5 to 3 parts P74 worked for me. Any higher on the P74 just seemed to take to much away from the P7… to be useful to me.

I haven’t tried other putative or other things yet.

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Would be interesting to know wether you are getting male irritation at 1mcg.

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At 1 MCG I didn’t go out and test it I just did a self test at the 1 MCG but will try 1 MCG and go out again to see what it does. I will tell you what I just showered and have to go to town tonight and will try at 1 MCG probably on my wrists and will talk more with my hands what I get. I will bring the Togo bottle with me and go till I see some guys getting irritated.

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Ok I just got back from the store and this is what I got from P75.

1 MCG to left wrist smeared to right. I had a few women look but nothing supper spectacular. But they I did get a few more looks from the women than normal. So I talk to a wal mart employee 30/M very tall like 6 foot 5 red head kind of nerdy. So I am asking him how much off the Halloween costumes are if he knew. He wouldn’t look me in the eyes at all but didn’t seem the slightest irritated. So this seems like a good sign.

There is some little snack thing in the grocery area and there is one of those free sample things some type of cracker snack and it is a male thin middle 40’s white so this is perfect. I go and grab a free sample and start chatting with the guy. It went really well and again the eye contact was limited. He was very helpful and more than happy to answer my questions.

So I feel at 1 MCG this is very usable and seems to work on women and not upset any men. I do think this is an Alpha molecule for sure.

I decide to go to 2 MCG now so I spray a full spray to the neck. I remembered I needed to buy sweat pants and don’t remember what size medium or large so I grab a few pair and go to fitting room where there is a white 60’s/M there. I ask him for a room. Almost no eye contact at all and very short with his answers I am asking and seems borderline irritated.

So finally I get everything I need and go to check out where there is a white 30/M big burley type with a full on beard looks like an Alpha male so this is perfect. I get in line and when I get closer to make small chat he is very short with me but no way disrespectful. He also seems borderline irritated so I don’t go to far with making to much small talk. No eye contact at all with this one. He seemed all business and no non sense. But 2 customers before me he was chatty and very open.

So I think 1 MCG is really good in a mix and 2 MCG is my sweet spot. Even with 2 MCG I will need a slight buffer if around men to make it a useable mix.

With 1 MCG I got no signs of men irritation, but the eye contact was very limited.

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Thanks for the quick update. This putative sounds like it could be good for a lone wolf or dates but wearing it could lose your male friends. Sounds like a too risky molecule to me based on your reports. I dont think its the pick up molecule I’m looking for. Thanks for testing it again.

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Thanks for testing, Justin. I was thinking about getting P7….. at 1 mcg. I currently have it at 3.5 mcg, and I had a similar experience as you did at 4 mcg. But, even your experience at 1 mcg makes me weary about trying it out again. I like the self-effects of P7….. I feel super confident, but, like Von also expressed, I don’t want to do that at the expense of irritating my male friends, or worse yet, potential dates!

Maybe I’ll experiment with it in the nano dosage with some P74. Otherwise, I’ll just wear it when I know I won’t be around my friends.

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My report on MX49.

Day 1

2 sprays to neck 1 left and 1 right. I notice the scent is stronger in this one compared to others in the pack even though it is the same scent. 30 minutes go by and I am in a better mood. Daughter is being wound up and just being a kid, I normally would be irritated a little but today I am not the slightest bit irritated. I am enjoying my new mood and decide nothing is going to ruin it for me. This happy mood is more natural than say IS or P74. I need to go to health food store to grab a few items. I love going here because all the women are super hot including the middle 60’s one. I walk in and am greeted by 28/W blonde. She asks if I need anything and just starts chatting up a storm. She is giving me bigger smiles than she normally would. Then she starts asking personal questions which I don’t mind she just has never down this before. We chat for a little while then I get what I need and leave.

What I noticed is so far this thing is more on the social side than love or sexual side but there seems to be some attraction to this. I do find it odd about the blonde asking me so many personal questions.

Day 2

I need to get an oil change so I spray my 2 sprays on neck 1 left and 1 right. Again I notice the scent in this is pretty strong at first. I wait 10 minutes and spray my midnight cologne for men over this. I can slightly smell the Blue Summer scent thru my cologne which I normally can’t with other mones I have in this scent.

I go to the local shop here check in my car and go and wait. There is a brunette middle 30’s checking me out after a few minutes of sitting down. She says hi so I say hi back and we are chatting and she seems really into me and giving the hair flips and pupils slightly dilated. Now I am wearing my wedding ring and think to myself she has to see it and know I am married. We chat for 10 minutes and then she asks if I am married and I tell her I am. Then rather quickly she has to go and then gets up and goes outside to smoke.

So I am seeing some more attraction with this one. This isn’t life of the party like the last one in this pack, but the mood is good.

Day 3

3 sprays 1 left neck, 1 right neck, 1 left wrist smeared to right one. Again I get the stronger scent effect for about an hour and a half then scent drops off sharply. I notice my mood is good again and more of in a natural way.

We go to wife’s friends B Day party. We get there and everyone seems in a great mood that comes within about 6 to 7 feet of me. Everyone including myself is being very social and engaging and all my conversations seem to flow really easy. I know half these people and they seem a little more bubbly than normal and no one at the party is drinking so this seems to have a social fun bubbly effect on everyone within about 6 feet. I am with my wife so I knew I wouldn’t get any hits this time as far as the women.

My Conclusion

I think this is a fun social MX with some attraction to it. There is a natural mood boost. I want to test more on younger women because I do think with this pack the higher the number the better it works on younger women. I think this MX is pretty safe for almost any environment.

Strength I give this thing a 7. The effects were subtle.

Length of Effects I got about 5 hours with it.

Tenacity Seems more like a slow burner

Effectiveness & Consistency I give an 8. I got the same effects every time.

Diffusion/Sillage Now what was weird with this one is the scent hit super hard for about an hour and a half then dropped off really hard. But I got the same effects for about 4 to 5 hours.

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OK I got my last MX out of the way for a while. I got my women’s mones in IS/A, IS/B, MX274, MX300, and MX335. I know about IS/A and IS/B a little bit. I am not even going to try and look up what these things do or intended for to be honest. I am going to spray on and go out and just write down what happens.

I got the blessing from the wife to not wear my wedding ring and I am lucky enough to have her and that she supports me no matter what I do and how crazy it may seem like this. I don’t drink but will be going more to bars and other places I can think of to test these things.

I am going to start with IS/B and go from here. I am going to test solo all these items. If I get comfortable enough I may try a combo or if anyone has a suggestion my collection is listed in my Sig and am open to suggestions.

To keep things fair and the same I will be showering using Jason’s body wash unscented, I will be using Tom’s of Maine unscented deodorant, and no colognes unless noted in the actual report.

I am doing these tests because I think a lot of us including myself have a misunderstanding on pheromones and how they effect gender. What I find interesting is from reading Hanks and other gay men journals is that they seem to have better luck with Ammo and A314 oil than they do with MB a product designed just for them. Hank has a really great post in his journal #116 and encourage everyone to read.

Then I read Lillian’s journal and see her having luck with A314(spray I think) at work and she seems to getting a lot more projects and respect from people.

I definitely think there needs to be more research on these things as far as gender goes. I look forward to this next series of tests I will be doing and hope this will help us all have more of an understanding on how pheromones effect us. I will be detailed as possible and will be writing everything down in my paper journal then will transfer here when I am finished. I plan on taking longer doing these tests than normal just so I don’t miss anything. If anyone has any suggestions please mention them.