Thanks for the report. Yes, there’s a hint of fruity in mx200 too, I just didn’t mention it. Next time I’ll follow your lead and apply it only to wrists/arms, to keep it away from my face. I don’t have any mx203 but will add it to the next order.
You’ve prolly mentioned it before but can’t find it right now, what’s shy girl’s ethnicity?
She’s white, 18, Irish descent.
The reason why I apply it to my arms/wrists is cause my hands/arms are abnormally warm sometimes. I also didn’t like how my clothes had that breakdown smell of certain pheros like -none. I hated the way my clothes smelled when I used AMMO. Use to spray to my chest (under clothes, not on top) and throat/side of neck. Now I spray to arms cause I wear T-shirts more now, instead of long sleeves. I’m not too sure if it will keep the smell away cause you tend to move your hands/arms a lot subconsciously and I’ll get a whiff of it. You might want to use MX200 and just spray shine or just neroli scent over it. I have a bottle of perfumer’s alcohol + light neroli cause I was planning on mixing, which I do, but I find that I also use it a lot just as a cover.
lol, does this special message come up when you guys rep zeph?
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9766/thanksfoxj0.jpgCould be a firefox 3.01b thing. (http://imageshack.us)
Sorry I haven’t been around much, trying to concentrate on school and stuff.
Tested out MX200 at a friend’s bday thing.
Application MX200 before dinner, around 6PM. MX200x3 to hair.
Reapp MX200x3 to hair at bar.
Met up at a friend’s house. I think she’s either use to my signature or it’s one of those examples of how “no matter what you wear (phero wise) it won’t change the way she feels about you” situations. I’m seriously starting to think its one of those two. She seems… immune to pheromones. At dinner though, one of my friend’s gf who I never really talked to was a lot friendlier, talked to me a LOT more. She’s on of the types to be really quiet if she doesn’t know you, gives short answers, etc. She was a lot more talkative, initiating convos with me, etc. HUGE change from the past times I’ve met her. It might also be because it’s not the first time I’ve met her, or maybe it’s also because she’s not use to my signature and maybe they are affecting her more.
Interestingly, MX200 seems to work really well on guy friends. People just seemed happier, more laid back around me. A friend kept commenting on how I smelled. “Dude, you smell good” lol.
Environment was Korean BBQ, then a bar later on in the evening. The restaurant had good air circulation so there wasn’t so much of the heavy meat/oil aura that you normally experience. Bar wasn’t too heavily crowded. I didn’t notice any IOIs or any other hits from any other people around me. Everyone cept one friend was korean. Bar was full of korean people, but its not your bar bar. Just a bar where you go to a table, sit down and drink. So it’s not really a place where you go to pick people up. Going to try MX200 more when I have the time.
Things I’ve noticed: Pheromones work best on strangers. Lots of veterans and experienced users have pointed this out before, I’m just seeing it “in action” more and more. Definitely has less of an effect on those who already know me.
Pheromones can be a bane sometimes. If you get too dependent on it, if you use it as a crutch for too long, it WILL come back and bite you in the ass. Make sure that the 90% of you is the good 90% that will keep em coming back. Or maybe I should say make sure that 100% of you is the good shit and the 10% phero boost isn’t keeping you from drowning.
I think as a new user, we all have to kinda do our own shit and make mistakes. There are things that can be avoided (phero bath, etc) things that we can learn from veterans, but the subtle nuances of it’s 100% you, 10% pheromones, you don’t truly learn till you’ve been using them for a while. And you really have to realize that you can’t keep relying on that 10%, you really gotta make yourself into a better person, and that 10% will help you get out there, an opportunity for your real self, the self that you want.
The congruency with your pheromones, you don’t realize till you get ignored cause your signature doesn’t match your body language. And sometimes you’ll get the full effect of a certain phero by changing your attitude, changing how you stand, how you act, etc.
The “I’m not getting hits, OMG, these don’t work.” Then you start to just spray it on, have fun and not think about it too much. You start to observe and then you just notice the subtle changes in people, the things that probably wouldn’t or might not have happened. You realize that when you don’t wear it, you hear less random hellos, see less friendly smiles from strangers. Pheros work, they just might not work the way you expect them to in your fantasy in your head.
It’s just we always think “that won’t happen to me, cause I’m not like that person.” But in reality, most of us will make the exact same mistakes, realize the exact same things, just some of us sooner than later. I’m not saying I regret any of my involvement with pheromones, I’m just saying things that I think many of us have been through. I think every new user feels that way. “I’ll do a better job, I’ve read through everything, I’m ready and I’m prepared” I’ve said that lots of times when diving into new things. And the thing is this, you’re never truly fully prepared or ready. Yeah, sometimes you’ll do a better job than people expected, but most of the time, you’re not an expert, so just listen to the veterans and what they have to say. Anyways, thats just me ranting.
She seems to love MX203 and Instant Gentleman/A314.
Have a good one guys, not sure when I’ll be back, but I’ll post when I have more testing done with MX200.
Nice to see some results on mx200 after you wanting it for hellllla long. Yes. Hella.
I noticed a lot of good male bonding as well. Kinda funny actually, if you consider how girly the mix smells and that it’s supposed to draw the elusive, extra feminine asian girl. Heh, instead I’ve got 6’5" Irish guy and greased back hair Italian wheeler dealer coming up to me and talking to me at work. I wonder if they’re subconciously drawn to the girly smell.
Like, I smell girly coming from person, must talk. 
A lot of your observations are applicable to any hobby or discipline. You spend a lot of time trying to understand and remember. When the time comes to actually perform, it all goes out the window and it’s as if you didn’t read anything or try to understand anything at all. After failing miserably, you come back, and what you thought was knowledge wasn’t knowledge until you paired it with real life experience. Before then, it was just information.
Haha! I knew there’d be a legitimate reason for my reps last night (was testing to see if I got the same thing Eldros got using Firefox). I can only say YES! YES YES!!! to the part I bolded below. Excellent observation, and from my experience, it’s right on the money.
-D4
MX200 x3 to hands, top.
The people I stay with was showing around one of their friend’s daughter the area. She’s planning on going to the same university as I am next year. I was going to go out to run some errands, decided to spray MX200. As I’m about to leave, the people I stay with ask me if I can take them and her to school to pick up some stuff. I agree and run up real quick to my room to grab some stuff. As I did this, I ran past her and before I even get to the stairs (about 10 feet away from the door) to my room she says “You smell really good, what are you wearing.” That TOTALLY blindsided me and I just gave her a dumb “uhm, I’m not too sure, it’s some natural oil”
This is the first time meeting her so I don’t know her too well but she was very talkative, opened me when I was watching the laker/spurs game and was talkative in the car on the way to school.
She’s 17, Chinese, raised here I believe. She also talked/said a lot of things that you don’t normally just tell people. I think it might have been the leftovers from this morning’s honesty strx4, 3 sprays to hair.
That was a niiiice hit! 
Frankly I don’t know why you were so surprised. 
I’ve, also, found the effects of Instant Honesty to have some real staying power.
Nice to see some more results coming in from mx200. I’m saving my last half for out of the work place, hopefully I won’t be so cautious about any ‘encouraging’ hits.
hmm I got a strange comment on my smell the other day, not to me directly. I’m assuming this is the mix, since its what I’ve been wearing lately:
MX203 3-5x, IG 3-5x, 1-2 drops of A314.
A friend of mine told another that I smelled like acid, while shy girl thought I smelled really good… that’s all I should care about. Right?
She’s Asian descent. Strange considering I’ve worn more “offensive” pheromones such as AMMO and heavier doses of A314 to which she didn’t seem to mind. Thinking of switching up MX203 with MX200 and seeing how shy girl will react. Update on that, she seems evasive on establishing what kind of relationship we have. Been hanging out a lot, I guess doing “bf/gf things.” Honestly, I’d rather leave things ambiguous, and it seems like she does too. She’s transferring to another college this coming school year, which is why I don’t mind that we haven’t established exclusiveness. Anyways some thoughts on MX200 and 203.
MX203: Been using it for about a month now. Usually in conjunction with IG. Dose is usually 2-4 sprays, 2 to arms, 2 to hair. Weather generally warm, high 70s to 90s, been going up. Environment is classroom, both structured and unstructured. I’ve noticed that with MX203 that it seems to attract caucasians the most. In the past posts I’ve said that it doesn’t necessarily repel other Asians, but the more I wear it around my Asian friends @ school, the less interaction I see with them. Now, before I attribute this to the pheromones, here is what has happened:
No longer in same classes as them.
Don’t sit in same area as them in classes (no room, they all sit in the very front row and there are plenty of people who sit there).
Been hanging out with shy girl and her friend a lot (they also hang out with the clique I originally hung out with at the beginning of the school year).
They’ve been studying harder in their studies, where as I’ve been slacking off.
So, the change in behavior in myself and them is a factor in my relationship with them. But the thing is, ever since I’ve worn MX203, it seems like unless I initiate a conversation or open them (the females), they don’t really talk to me all that much. Once I do however, everything seems back to “normal.” Among other Asians, it’s mostly neutral. I have a feeling that any of the hits I’ve been having with MX203 is mostly due to IG or A314, as the IOIs and hits seem to be from the respect aspect of A314 and IG. Those were the ONLY “types” of IOIs and hits I noticed. Stuff like the way people talk to me, the things people ask of me, etc. Like people asking for my advice, both strangers and friends.
Self effects: I don’t really notice much in terms of self effects. Only thing is a mild boost in happiness, gives me that tiny grin on my face. Kinda like a low dose of TAA or Shine.
Effects on others: Mostly positive, especially among caucasians. Both guys and girls feel relaxed around me if my attitude matches the phero. Sometimes I’ll be wearing clothes that makes me look a bit shady, but if I’m dressed normally, have a happy demeanor, it puts people at ease. If I’m wearing something like A314, they seem to be a bit nervous, like they don’t want to disappoint me, but that was with males. With IG, it really soften things up in comparison with A314. It feels like I can open with pretty much anything and not feel like an idiot about it. People just seem to not care how I do things, say things or w/e as long as I’m involving them. It really puts people in the category of “I just met you, but I think I can get along really well with you” type feel to it. I can agree with the nickname its been given by several members, the whole “Instant caucasian magic” or whatever its been named. I’ve gotten IOI’s from white girls that I’m pretty sure I would not have gotten. Hell, I’ve gotten straight up looks that I wouldn’t have gotten.
Effects on her: She loves MX203. It seems that whatever its mixed with, she loves it. I’ve done MX203 with IG, with A314 + IG, with Honesty 4x, with IMF, with Openness, with IG + A314 and Honesty 4x, she doesn’t seem turned off by it. There are some subtle differences though. There are some combos she seems more receptive to than others. The Honesty 4x or openness didn’t seem to elicit any different behavior, was not more chatty in any way. Didn’t have “deeper” conversations, no matter how I tried to steer it. It works really well for attraction stage IMO. It’s the bait. I’m going to try to add a shot of TUTH and see how that goes. Don’t like the smell of AMMO and the only other -none product I have is a 10mcg bottle of -none and she claims to be sensitive to the odor of cat urine. So I guess TUTH it is.
MX200
Doses: At least 4 sprays. Seems to work best at high doses. Tried it at 2, 3, nothing. At 4+ and reapplications it seems to work well. Usually to hair and arms.
Environment: Some unstructured classes, bar, restaurant.
Temperatures: from low 70s to low 90s.
Self effects: puts me in a very… satisfied mood. Like even if no one was around me, I would be happy. Almost a “you can leave me the fuck alone and I’d still be happy, LONE WOLF SON, I’M A LONE WOLF” almost to the point where I’m almost like an arrogant feel to it. Its not exactly consistent though. Have yet to try it with anything else and I have a feeling its due more to a placebo effect than anything else. Might have just been those days where you feel like nothing can take you down.
General effects on others: happy. Best way to describe this is a very effective combo of Shine + openness, maybe some honesty. People around me were happier, chattier. In large groups it was a let’s have fun, chat it up, socialize, party feel. In a smaller 2-4 group it was more of a “so what’s going on with you” type feel. Like a “deeper” feel to it. I guess among strangers/large groups = Shine + openness. Among smaller/close friends = shine + honesty. Not saying thats what shine + openness or shine + honesty does for me, but thats what it feels like. In terms of Asian women, I’m going to have to say its similar to the way MX203 is for caucasian women. It builds initial curiosity/attraction, but that seems to be it. Either you have something to bring more to the table or that’s it. Gets your foot in the door. To be fair, I’ve only tested this maybe 5-6 times, unlike IG or MX203 so I will have to test this more.
Just ordered more MX172, 200, 203 and some MX173. SO MUCH STUFF I WANT TO TRY OUT. So freaking little time. Hope everyone is doing well, I should be more active once this week is over. Will be trying to test out MX200 more when school’s out and trying to finish up that FAQ I started.
MX271
Day 1
Application: 2x sprays. 1 to back of neck, 1 to top of hands (split).
Temperature: Hot, low 90s.
Self effects: Really chill, calm. Has a bit of absentminded-ness in there. Felt like cruisin instead of driving.
Didn’t have a chance to really test on others.
Day 2
Application: 2x sprays, 1 to throat, 1 to top of hands (split).
Temperature: Hot, low 90s. Again…
Self effects: Again, got a really relaxed calm feel to it.
Went to buy some stuff at Best Buy. Went looking at printer stuff and I noticed a lady give me a “hmm, you’re interesting” look. Noticed her look at me a few more times and as I left I kinda caught her eyes looking in my direction.
Went to the market and one of the employees there was pretty friendly. It was different from the way she treated customers before and after me, just really kinda chipper, happy friendly. She helped me out in one of the aisles and then again as I checked out. I found it strange that she was able to find the customer’s name and amount saved in front of me, but when she got to mine, she stumbled a bit trying to find my name and amount saved. She looked like she was the organized, I’ve done this routine so much I could do it in my sleep, kinda person.
I really like the self effects of MX271. It gives me a really calm, relaxed chill feeling. A very “Chill, I’m in control” sorta feel to it. A cool confidence feeling. Kind of like how I feel sometimes when I wear IG, but much more chill. Like in Pulp Fiction how Samuel L Jackson takes care of the couple robbing the restaurant chill. The male robber was chill, Travolta was chill, but Samuel L Jackson was in control, chill.
Great Reports on MX200, MX203 & MX271 Zeph Now i know & understand much more about the three MXS. Thanks Reps for your reports
MX271
Application 4x, 2 to each arm.
Temperature: High 90s, low 100s
Ran a few errands, didn’t notice any hits per say, but I wasn’t really paying attention. I actually find it extremely hard to focus when I have this spray on. It’s a lot like being high, but much more aware. It’s like blazing it, but only getting the “wheeeeeee” part of it. The very relaxed, chill feeling. Again, felt confident, in control while feeling really… relaxed and chill. I don’t think I’ll be able to notice much with this on, unless its a very obvious hit. I think the best way to describe this is that its kinda like smoking a bowl for me. It’s got this really conflicting/contradicting effect on me. Makes me feel confident, yet sometimes absentminded. Makes me feel at ease, calm, relaxed. Like a what happens, happens, I’ll deal with it then. Almost like a “It’s a party, have some fun” “go with the flow” thing. All this w/o being so lazy. The overall effect makes me really… keep to myself a bit. When prompted though, I open up and I’m fairly responsive. It’s like a sleeper, I’ll respond when spoken to. I might not look happy, but I’ll flash a smile if someone talks to me. Like a social/happy sleeper effect.
I found it really hard to concentrate. I took a clerical test today, and with this on while taking a terribly outdated and poorly written test… I didn’t do so well.
Overall effects on others: Didn’t notice any hits that I could definitely say was due to the pheromones. This could be due to the way I presented myself. I’d have to say I had a very neutral face/attitude. Very I guess normal, not happy, sad or agitated/angry. Not really giving off negative or positive cues. Interactions were mostly cordial and friendly. But to be fair, like I said, I found it really hard to concentrate, much less observe my surroundings and others around me. I really like the self effects, but the more I spray on, the slower I get. Not too sure if I want to go past 4 sprays yet. I think I may switch to testing MX200 tomorrow… there might be possible… subjects to work with… 
Anyhow, hope you’re all having a good summer. I have no idea where my time goes and how I’m wasting it… but it seems like I’ve got no time doing nothing. 
Zeph, the “aware” aspect is something I neglected to post. The manifestation in myself was so bizarre that I didn’t want to chalk it up to MX271 unless somebody else mentioned it.
It centered on the color red. Driving down the road my eye would be instantly drawn to any red object. There is a small inconspicuous red wildflower around here called a “crowsfoot”. It’s small and grows along the roadside. Normally you would never see one driving at highway speed but I swear I can count the damned buggers wearing this MX! In some ways it seems similar to Mharris’s early descriptions of TAF.
yeah, the mix is really strange for me. I think it confuses my body a little. It blends me, shakes me up and voila… a perfectly confused Zeph. For the awareness, it didn’t really focus on anything in particular, I would be absentminded one moment, unable to concentrate another, and then I’d focus or be “aware” of random things. It’s like being on autopilot due to the relaxed, chill feel but at the same time random things I’d notice or pick up.
Either way, whatever is in this mix, it really messes with me.
Wow. Mx271 sounds kinda intense. I’m not at all sure where I’d take that other than attempts to modify my own reality. I guess I’ll just have to keep reading the reports until I get a chance to try it myself.
Hmm, interesting report of MX271 Zeph , so you have experienced a rather confusing effect from it & it also affect your concentratation badly there as you did not do well for your clerical exam. The good part is you feel confident,relaxed & chilled with it.
Well the effect of it can’t be predicted like one moment it make you feel confident but then after that absentminded. So what i can see from your report here is MX271 has both positive & negative effects. Reps for your report Keep on posting more
I guess I should clarify that. It puts me in an absentminded/neutral/chill/relaxed state. But when approached or when needed, brain turns on. Like it puts me in a screen saver mode, but when something/someone attracts my attention it turns on. So I’ll be just chillin’ and cruisin and something, a noise, person, something visual will attract my attention and I’ll be kinda aware of it. It’s really random. I wouldn’t say they contradict each other, but really more like it calms me to a point where I’m so relaxed that I don’t care. The confidence isn’t like I’m a big shot alpha male. Its more like I’m in control still, even though I’m chill and relaxed. If you’ve seen pulp fiction, it really feels like that diner scene. Sam’s character is kinda nonchalant about the whole thing, but when fucked with, game OVER son. He’s just chillin doin this thing, but when the male robber comes over, he kinda wakes up, goes in his confident, badass mode takes control of the whole situation calmly, relaxed and with authority. Kinda like that. Puts me in a sorta chilled out mode but still with that confident, collected feel. I read over a few reports on the 271 from other people, and I don’t really get that suave, smooth player feel, I get a more smooth, chilled out, confident, I’ll deal with it if it arises feel.
It gives me a whole lotta… I guess feelings/states of being that I’m not really use to.
On a whole different note, anyone else sometimes not so much apprehensive, but a bit uncomfortable straying away from their mixes that work well? Ever since I’ve found that gentleman works well for me, I find it hard to test other products solo. I really had to force myself to use 271 solo, fighting the urge to spray on gentleman. So here’s the deal, I need some motivation to test out these wonderful sprays and report on them.
Here’s the stuff I have that I should test:
MX140, MX271-273, P83, P79, P93, P74, TAC, MX103, MX105, MX200 and SteveO’s ICM mix. For those of you who read my journal, let me know what you want me to try/test out. I will actually use them solo, except for maybe P79 cause I hear that it is an amplifier. Also, I have no idea what MX272, 273, P93 and TAC do. The rest, I sorta have an idea of what they do, mainly MX200, 140 and steveo’s mix. So those may have a placebo effect if I test them.
Oh i see, so smooth, chilled out & confident feeling that you have experienced from MX271. I understand what you have say there
Well as for your question there, i can’t say much as i haven’t find any of my mixes that work well.
Ok buddy here is my request, i would like you to test SteveO’s ICM mix & test it out solo like you have said there. Don’t mind if i ask which type of his ICM that you have now? Well there is four types of it. Do let me know about this.
Cool. I love the diner scene from Pulp Fiction, sounds like mx271 might be right up my alley. Also makes me wonder if mx271 has any connections to A314 (even remotely, for the suave/smooth/ready-action part)
And as far as phero experimenting, I would say try each pheromone/mx individually until you get a hang of it, even p79. Once you do, then start combining Instant Gentleman with the putatives/mx one by one, then together and so forth. There isn’t enough data on mixing IG with other putatives. I’ve only tried IG with a few products/putative myself.