Long Term Effects and Tolerance? Advice Please :)

First of all, nice to meet everyone :slight_smile:. I just got acquainted with this whole idea of phero’s as well as this forum in particular, and so far its been a blast researching and hearing all you guys educate the new guys. I just made my first purchase of sprays (7 total lol) and am waiting for them to arrive :smiley:.

I just have one key question thats kind of boggling my mind. Potentially wouldn’t the people, that the sprays and such are being used around the most frequently, build up a tolerance for the phero’s? For example. Let’s say your living with a spouse, and at first she notices the change and what not. But as time goes on she gradually grows accustomed to her subconscious arousals and aromas and what not. So potentially, wouldn’t their be withdrawal effects? If the sprays were stopped altogether further down the line, wouldn’t your spouse’s positive emotions and actions toward you be even less than before you started the phero’s?

Think of it as parallel to caffeine, you get on caffeine, and obviously feel it in your system for a varied amount of time. But your body grows a tolerance to the caffeine, and it takes more and more caffeine to get the same effect as it did when you first started. And once you stop taking caffeine completely, theres a ‘downer’ or withdrawal stage where you feel worse than you had originally, and it takes time for your body to get back to that normal state of not depending on caffeine. Same goes for anyone who’s ever cycled creatine, nitrous oxide, or any other substance that builds up a tolerance. But in this case, the tolerance build up would be the people around you most frequently exposed to the sprays. Makes sense right?

If someone could correct me on the science and clear all this up for me, I’d GREATLY appreciate it. :smiley:

In other words, if this is how the science works, it would be safer not to frequently use the sprays around the people you see very, very often right?

You’re thinking way too hard. Pheromones ain’t drugs and don’t parallel drug patterns. There is absolutely no withdrawal from stopping pheromone use. Otherwise you’d be convulsing on the floor after a shower (no pheromones rising up outta your pits!) First and foremost, pheromones are natural products of human sweat, urine, saliva, semen and vaginal fluids. You already sense them daily on your on body and those around you. They’re basically messenagers of social and sexual signals and can invoke a biological response, an urge if you will. Unlike insects and lower mammals we can and usually do choose to ignore these urges. Ignoring the urge to talk (alpha androstenol) or fuck (cops) is no different than ignoring hunger, pain or the need to pee. I do it all the time…

The initial exposure to a strong pheromone is often surprising and may catch you off guard. Once used to it, it comes routine and can be easily ignored if you choose to. It is similar to the first time you saw your girl nekid: you were big as the Rock of Gibraltar (Pillar of Hercules) and could only think of banging her senseless. After a few years of marriage her naked body ain’t such a thrill and she has to work it to get you going. No biggie, you merely become more discriminating and need to try harder. Artificial pheromones are no different in this respect. They amp things up but the laws of the universe are still intact. However, you can rotate mixes to maintain some sense of surprise. I use 4 or 5 different mixes in rotation across a couple weeks.

But, yeah, those nearest to you get used to you and take you for granted. Use of pheromones will not change this fact. Personally I’ve found artificial pheromones to be the most effective with casual acquaintances, new lovers and strangers. They assume little and take you at face value. Once they have you pegged, their “social filters” keep their reactions at bay.

Ultimately I’ve found the biggest benefits of mones is for professional enhancement: better communication and clear chain of command. They really improve the social process at work. The sexual perks are really a side benefit for me.

I agree with gegogi on this, yes just like with natural mones people can become accustomed to them and react less or take for granted the feelings they evoke.

Its important, as he mentioned above, to avoid this by taking a few days off a week from using mones and changing my mixes frequantly. After years of use I can still evoke a reaction out of just about everyone I know.

Great post gegogi

Tisha

Thanks for the informative posts :slight_smile:. (Gegogi, you meant 4-5 various mixes in rotation during a span of 2 weeks right? Looks like I got a lot of experimenting to do :stuck_out_tongue:)

But by saying withdrawal effects, I basically meant in terms of the control you’re using the variable on. In this case, lets say a spouse. Stop using the pherones (or the new suit, or new hair-do, or new dress, etc etc etc) that loved ones have become accustomed to and may start taking for granted, and you’re left with less enhancement of the inner qualities you had. Ex: Wife learns to take the new quality enhancement for granted -> For whatever reason, you don’t use pherones as frequently or stop completely -> She’s left with a quality that’s now lower to the threshold she built up against. Instead of taking it for granted, she even thinks less of certain qualities. That’s what I meant about the withdrawal stuff.

But as you guys pointed out, and Tisha informed me in another thread, I guess the main solution to all this is to always remember to mix it up as well as take days off around the people you see the most. I’m looking forward to more and more diverse items being released just for this sake :slight_smile:. But thanks guys for making it a little clearer for me.

Let me ask you this, Do you love your wife any less when she is wearing sweat pants and a tshirt then when she is wearing say something small and sexy.

You may be more aroused by the small sexy jammies but if she wore them everyday you would get used to it and not notice as much. It would be comman place.

So no I dont think that if you stopped useing mones her feelings for you would change but prehaps she would not open up as much or feel as aroused all the time. Even with the mones on its still you she is attracted to.

Tisha

Tisha, you’re such a cutie :stuck_out_tongue: (and I mean that in a ‘your response has got me in a check mate’ + non-sexual way)