Major and Obvious IOIs using AMMO

[ckravitz]

REPORT
Day 4

I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t nervous this morning. Hell, I’d be lying if I said that I was able to fall asleep last night. I even tried reciting a song that always gets me in a calm, happy mood: Monty Python - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - YouTube. Nothing; the idea of “tomorrow” just creeped me out.

I’ll skip ahead to the morning. I was better, but still not 100% When I look back, I have a hard time understanding why I was so worried. I wasn’t scared of rejection. I wasn’t afraid of screwing up. It was just “something.”

Anyway, it would be wrong of me to hold back the information any longer. Here it is:

I applied 4 pheromones right before class. AMMO (2 sprays) around my neck, IS 2x (2 sprays on my face), IO (2 sprays to my wrist), and p130 to calm my nerves (2 sprays to my jawline). I royally screwed up in this combo. I was rushing, and a tad bit messed up in the head. Any fragrance, spray, or pheromone never did bode well when paired with the pulse points on my neck, so the AMMO didn’t diffuse optimally. At the same time, why did I use p130?

Anyway, after this blunder, I went off to class; the bell was about to ring. I look to where she normally sits. Nobody’s there. Where is she? Is she here today? Please don’t tell me I need to wait for tomorrow! Well, about 5 seconds before the bell rang, she walked in. Whew!

She sat down, and the teacher said that she was coming around to check homework. She stopped at me and asked me if I “…was the one who brought the cake?” very happily. I looked at her with curiosity, and I saw the girl looking at me from the corner of my eye. Then, another kid spoke up and said that he was the one who brought the cake. I looked back at the teacher, who said a few kind words to the boy. The girl kept her eyes on me.

The teacher walked away, and I knew that this was the best chance to finally talk to her like a normal human being because in just a few seconds the teacher would start her lesson. It took a few moments of self encouragement, but I finally turned to her and said “Hey [name], how was your weekend?” calmly and confidently. She looked at me, and smiled this cute smile, and said in a low voice, “Oh, it was good. I just relaxed, and swam in the pool.”

I then nodded my head and said “Oh yeah? Well I had to do all this work for TV production.” She was nodding her head. I continued, “I shouldn’t really mind it that much, sine I want to go into film when I grow up, and go to college.” She perked up with enthusiasm. I then said "I mean, who knows, maybe I’ll make the next Hangover, fly to Thailand, and meet one of their festive dancers.

She laughed at the horrible joke

The rest was really a blur, but will tell you this:

• I asked her what she wants to be. She said she doesn’t know, but maybe something in psychology.

The teacher started speaking, and we had to resort to physical flirting once more. I was leaning into her, and she was leaning into me, with her legs crossed, and sometimes stretched out. She was also stroking her hair quite a bit. So far so good.

When the teacher finished, she handed out a paper we needed to do for homework. We had to annotate it; very simple. I turned to the girl and asked if we could do this together. She said “Sure,” and suggested we read the paper individually, and as we get to a point to annotate, we tell each other. Fine with me, and we began.

I annotated the first paragraph and leaned into her to let her know and show her the paper. She leaned in a bit.

When that was over, something very odd happened. Her friend came over and stood directly in between me and her, asking her questions. Very odd; I have never met her, and she had never met me, and I have never seen her get out of her seat before. Strange for sure. I didn’t make a big deal about it at the time though; I’m calm about that sort of stuff. However an AWESOME sign. “My” girl kept speaking very fast, trying to get her friend away from her so she could talk to me. She could’ve pretty much said “shoo!” to her.

Then she did something very nice. “My” girl decided to get up out of her seat and squeeze by her friend to end the conversation. However, instead of turning right to just go straight out of the isle, she went around her friend (left) and rubbed her body up against my desk. She then lingered there for a second answering one last question, and then retreated down the isle to get her paper from the front.

I’ll skip to just about the end of class. I realized that I never introduced myself. Which I may have done purposely to try out assuming report in an odd way. Anyway, I turned to her and said “You know, I never actually introduced myself. My name is [name].” I held out my hand as well, but not in a way to shake her hand, but to hold onto it, like her palm up and my palm down. It’s more classy, more emotionally appealing, and I think is simply more “girlfriend/boyfriend” like.

Before class ended, I annotated another paragraph and told her about it. We both leaned in very close to each other. She was smiling a lot

The bell rang, and her friend came to talk to her immediately . I kept packing my bag, as did she. I then turned to her and wished her luck on her homework. She laughed, smiled, and wished me luck as well. I then walked over to the front to get my graded paper (the same one she got when she got up before). I got my papers and I began to walk out (she was in front of me talking with her friend). She then suddenly turned around and said “What did you get?” very enthusiastically. I told her my grade and she said ok. I then told her to have a good one, and she replied “you too.”

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So, I didn’t ask her out today. This was mainly because of her friend, which really hampered our conversations. We simply didn’t socialize enough for me to ask her to go out.

Note: I’m not looking for the perfect moment

Tomorrow is a group project with the paper we annotate tonight for homework. I plan on going at her full blast tomorrow, asking more personal questions about what she likes to do for fun, etc. I’m good at listening and building on statements., so it should go well.

I do hope it goes well enough that she initiates the question of working together as a group.

The above will hopefully be achieved thanks to the IH I plan to wear tomorrow instead of IO. So, tomorrow, I will wear AMMO, IH, and IS. I plan on speaking to her about what she likes to do. I’ll elaborate tomorrow.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed Day 4, and I hope I enjoy Day 5

[KIMBA]

Well played. Odds are she thinks more of her friends than you, so if they say you are a no go, so will she. It is best to always ask alone.

[ckravitz]

@KIMBA

Well played. Odds are she thinks more of her friends than you, so if they say you are a no go, so will she. It is best to always ask alone.

Firstly, I really do appreciate your help. What you say makes a lot of sense, and I respect that. Thank you sir. However, I need your opinion with this:

REPORT
Day 5
Today was not good, but I must preface it with this:

As I said yesterday, 2 sprays of AMMO to the bends of my arm, 2 sprays of IS (2x) to my face, and 2 sprays of IH to my wrists.

Also, I’m not being bias in any of my reports. I didn’t alter anything to make myself sound cooler, or her sound more loving. Everything is real, and factual (unless it’s an opinion, of course).

Now, as I said in the last report, we were put into groups today. I was in her group along with two other people: a guy and a girl. The bad thing is that the two other kids who were sitting next to us were the usual high school flirt whores. For most of the class, the both of them were playing a game of Ultimate Footsies (UF) under the table. It was quite annoying, but the worst part is that it made me look like an idiot in front of “my” girl, since I wasn’t flirting at all. It’s not that I didn’t want to, its just that I couldn’t get a word in edge wise with their constant talking.

During round 2 of UF, though, she kicked my leg, sighed, and crossed her legs (we sat across from each other). Now, it’s not that I was too far on her side, because I wasn’t. It’s that she was too far on my side.

Anyway, I did make a few cracks here and there, and she did smile at them all (and they weren’t fake smiles; I’m good at reading faces) and chuckled a bit, but she refused to initiate conversation. It’s always me! And in an instance like what I mentioned above, I can’t do anything!

Of course, I turned to my 'ol pal Google to see what the Internet says about “what does it mean when the girl doesn’t initiate conversation?” Most of the forums Google showed me weren’t in my age group, so they were not applicable. The other possible solutions I came up with are that she does like me, but is shy, she simply doesn’t like me, she’s a flirt whore (doubt it), or she’s playing hard to get. I don’t know

Another extremely bad sign that happened near the end of class is that she started to talk to another guy, we’ll call him “Doug.” Now, the speaking was coming from across the room (while sitting in front of me), I have NEVER heard them speak before in my life, and they only said a few words to each other, but this “Doug” really got me agitated (especially since he a royal arse). I want to be optimistic about it and say she wanted to make me jealous, but I just can’t.

WARNING: below is a rant. You can skip it, just delves into my personal feelings

Let’s say she lost interest in me. That’s fine, I can understand that. We can’t talk in that class, and for the time there is to talk, there isn’t enough time to build up the conversation enough to ask for her Facebook or phone number so I can talk to her outside of class. However, and excuse my censored language, but if I see her with that ******* ******** Doug I won’t blow a circuit, I’ll blow a freakin’ motherboard. I didn’t report about this before, but I was walking in the hall, and she and her friends were talking. For a few quick seconds I heard them talking about this teacher’s husband who brought her flowers. They were going crazy over him; one of them said “why can’t my boyfriend do that!” And they all agreed.

And yet, they go for the douches and the bad boys who wear their pants down to their ******* ankles. I know it’s high school, and I know it’s all about having fun, but don’t say you wish for a good guy when all you want is a guy who couldn’t give two ***** about you.

Maybe I didn’t make myself out to be that nice guy who would get her flowers here and there, and actually remember her birthday, but I think the fact that I didn’t grope her *** yet is good enough to show that I’m not one of those guys.

Again, I know it’s high school, and I wouldn’t mind it at all if they at least admitted they want to date the people that give them the drama they scream and cry about at night, but they don’t; they love that ******* drama.

ehem So, what do you highly intelligent and much more experienced guys and girls think? Does she still have any interest in me? Oh, and don’t hold back on your answers. Even if she doesn’t like me anymore, I finally chipped a tiny whole in the ice with a girl, and I think that’s a big step

No matter what, I plan on talking to her tomorrow. I’m actually a bit curious about her last name; it’s Scottish, but she pronounces it differently then how it should be said. Exciting, I know, but I actually am very curious about it.

Anyway, talk to you all tomorrow.

[KIMBA]

Woah woah. Simmer down (Funny story about a girl I met when I was in HS at a college party who ended up being a student teacher for me, lets just say she was surprised to find out I was in high school. She used simmer all the time).

Do not use google.

This is what happened:

Girl flirts with guy.

Guy flirts back, does not have the balls to ask out.

Girl flirts more.

Guy does not ask out, waits for a ‘moment’ in her opinion, very wuss.

To push guy, girl flirts with another guy.

You know what happens next?

If you do not ask her out, the other guy will. It is fairly simple buddy. Women use jelousy all the time, intentional or not. She wants you to get riled up into action.

Just tell her to give you her facebook. Do not ask, just do. When I mentioned asking for facebook, then number, then date I mean all within the same tenminute conversation. The act of compliance of baby steps is just a way to up the chance of a yes.

Do not think, do. She is saying you are on your last chance buddy, or any other number of guys will have her.

Your approach is wrong. A women wants a man. A man is confident and goes after what he wants. Just do it! This while “I want to get to know her and need time to ask for her facebook” is stupid. I mean, come on. Women give their numbers out to nearly anyone that asks, even if she is not interested. A facebook is for peoope you met a time or two, and want to keep in touch. Women go on dates all the time with men who offer to pay just because it is a fun thing to do on a week day night before she goes out with her girlfriends.

Do not look so far into things. She wants you to get upset and freak out. Do not. Be calm, tell her to give you her number so you two “Can chill sometime after school”.

I know I sound harsh but you need to hear it. She is just a person. You are obsessing over one special girl, thinking about what she would want, and you would want, and planning a date, before you even have her number. She could have a boyfriend. She could be homosexual. She could not be allowed to date. She may only like to date short guys. She may be Amish and cant date outsiders or use automobiles, or phones so she has no number to give you. She may HATE you and am simply toying with your head.

You DONT know her. She is ANOTHER girl. More than 50% of the worlds population are women. In some countries they kill female babies because they have so many women.

Now, about how to get her, because dragging your feet hurts your chances. If youy do not pull the trigger someone else will.

You need to EXPLODE into her life. You are an A-BOMB. Blow up into her life. Tell her you are going on a date. Why, she seemed cool. Something about her makes you want to get to know her. Done.

The more you think, plan and prance around the greater the chance she will say no, and the greater the chance you will mess it up because you are nervous and will act differently around her. If you come off weird or different, she will say no. Stop thinking about her and just do it.

We have all thought about a girl. Obsessed. Bought mones, or clothes, or shoes, or changed something about ourselves. We have all spent nights thinking about that special girl. Then, some day, you finally get a chance to tell her you want to date, and she calls you a weirdo because you were ‘friends’ before. She slowly got to know her, and she you, and she put you into the friendship zone (Or the non0mate box).

Poor girl, she thought you were another girl friend. She got to know you, and she felt trust and a connection with her as a friend. And you will blow that up. If you do not pull that trigger, you disqualify yourself.

Just do it.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Sure, waiting may work, she may get to know you and want something, but the spark will not be their. The tension will not be in the mix. That sexual tension sparks attraction. By not keeping it taught you reduce your chance of keeping her interested.

Just do it. Saddle up and ride into this rodeo, before it is too late.

[Apoplectic]

First of all, about the rant. We have ALL been there. Yes it sucks that it is this way, in a perfect world it would never happen. It ain’t fair, but neither is life. Girls tend to go for douches because they tend to have more balls than nice guys. Granted not a hard and fast rule, but until you prove otherwise to her, she will lump you in with all the other nadless nice guys she knows. Do not allow her to do that, it hurts worse than anything you can know. Sack up and ask her out already.

Secondly, +1 on what KIMBA said.

Third, what the f*** is ultimate footsie?

[ckravitz]

@KIMBA

I wish I could give your post 1,000 likes and 20 awards because you made me finally realize that I’m way over thinking this whole thing. I’m an overthinker of everything. I plan and picture every detail that leads to the perfect scenario, and hope for it. But it doesn’t come; it never will. There is no way to plan for every single variable, but I like to think I can because the outcome is so grandeur it clouds my judgement.

You were not harsh at all. It is talk like this that makes me realize that I am a damn fool when it comes to things like this. As I said above, I visualize the perfect outcome, and hope to achieve that and only that with absolutely no exception.

Your words match her body language. It just makes sense. Why would she suddenly talk to a guy that, to my knowledge, has never spoken to her before in any depth other than “can you get me my paper?” And the kick in the leg and sigh. And positive responses to jokes. It actually makes sense.

Tomorrow I plan on talking to her about her last name (won’t even take a minute). I have some things planned to make it funny and interesting. After that, I’ll ask her for her number (“You know, I would love to have your number so we can talk some more”). She says yes, we exchange numbers, and then I’ll tell her “Actually, how about we also get to know each other even better. Let’s both go out, this Saturday, to play some mini-golf. What do you say?”

Of course, this is not set in stone

Anyway, thank you sir for this post. I only wish tomorrow was right now so I can just do it. It’s actually pretty funny, but I’m very impatient

@Apoplectic

Above applies to you as well. Thank you sir for all your help through these past 5 days. Hopefully, tomorrow will be a damn good day.

Oh, and Ultimate Footsie is a new sport I’m starting. It’s similar to Ultimate Frisbee, but you sit and use your feet. It’s not catching on, sadly

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Again, a million thanks. Tomorrow…

[alexjustdoit]

I think you’re taking all the fun out of this by planning it all out days ahead. Just go into class, not knowing what you’re going to say, or what you’re going to do, and just go with it. Way more enjoyable. And also much more satisfying when you get that date with her.

[Veles]

Hey man I’m also in high school(though I’m a senior) and I just wanted to say this has helped me IMMENSELY in choosing which pheromones to buy as well as your experience with them. I will most likely start a journal as well because of this. Thanks again and sorry for resurrecting an old thread lol

[Lacosteboy]

i never asks out… if she uses jealous as a weapon to hit me, then she loses me forever… thats how it works for me.
my actual GF asked me out, she even bought rings… and normally its the “men” who needs to do these things… the thing is… if she flirts with you… and suddently starts to flirt someone else… and this guy askes her out first than you and she accepts it.. then she wasnt the right girl for you… simple.

Im following your reports and im enjoying… i hope to see more!