My First Few Days with Pheromones

I received my order of Ammo, IH, IO, and IS in the mail last Tuesday, all TO GO versions, my first order with smartmones.

On Tuesday, I needed to go to WalMart and pay a visit to the bakery for a school project. I decided to try a spray of Ammo to the chest. I went up to the bakery to ask my question, and the old lady was NASTY to me. I figured this was because I was I already produce a lot of NONE, as I am 17, and this made her a little nasty.

The next day, I put on all the different pheromones EXCEPT IO. In the morning (6:30 AM) I put a spray of Ammo on my wrists, spread, and one to my chest. I put a spray of IS on my chest, and one behind each of my ears. I put IH on the back of my head, and the crooks of my arms, and reapplied at around 1 (a period before I see the Latina girl I’m trying to get). I’m not going to lie, I didn’t get very good reactions, people were nasty again towards me (more so guys than girls).

The next day, I did the same mix EXCEPT no Ammo and some IO (applied as I applied the IH). This worked pretty well, I felt pretty confident, and the Latina girl was talking to me pretty warmly, but wasn’t opening up to me like IH said that people would. Overall, it was an alright day.

Friday, I decided to put ALL the different scents on, except w/ the Ammo, I didn’t put any on my wrists. After I applied in the bathroom, I went to my physics teacher (I always go to him during my study hall before physics because I’m the only upperclassman in my study hall), and I asked him if I smelled like a French whore lol. He said I did. But, once again, kids acted kind of nasty towards me again!

I’m that type of kid that likes to mess around, I tease and poke fun at kids, but I make sure I don’t offend them (I tell them if I’m offending them to tell me cuz I’ll stop, they say ‘no, its fine.’) I usually get laughs, but I was getting OMG JOHN JUST SHUT UP when I was wearing Ammo.

So, I don’t think Ammo is working very well for me, but I don’t want a “just friends” vibe to be given off to this girl. I’m gonna take the advice Snook gave me and put a shot of Ammo to my chest for the entire day, and see how that works out. If it doesn’t, looks like I’m going to be trying Instant Gentleman as a replacement very soon.

I’m afraid also I may be applying these pheromones incorrectly.

Thoughts? PLEASE LEAVE COMMENTS!

Ammo was brilliant for me.

I don’t think ammo is causing that problem for you to be honest.

I’m no expert so I can’t say much else.

There are some different ways to look at this. Not all of them are pretty. I’m not trying to be harsh just giving my opinion.

One possiblity is that without AMMO what you say carries little weight because you are seen as being a little immature or otherwise unthreatening. With the AMMO what you say carries more weight and so comes off as more offensive.

Another way to see it is that the IO or IH makes people feel more free to tell you what they really think. Honesty is not always nice.

IG might not be best with your personality either. It tends toward some seriousness. You sound like AMMO + Ishine to me. Try your one spray AMMO under the shirt (at least several times) if you still get poor responses after a few days then start adding 2 - 4 sprays of ISHINE. It will help buffer the -none and give “permission” for others to really act happy around you. It might be best to try the Ishine first without the AMMO and then try sneaking a spray of ammo in later.

Don’t be in a rush, try to follow a test plan, and enjoy the experience of learning about pheromones instead of being hung up on trying to “get the girl”. Let that happen naturally.

I think you are getting results right and left. Good luck, this is a good post!

Try Instant Gentleman, no more than 1 spray, and maybe 1 spray of instant shine and instant openness/instant honesty. Also, work on your eye contact and body language. If you don’t make eye contact, people will think you are not taking interest in them. But don’t make too much eye contact, because that creeps people out too and can be seen as confusing/flirtatious (unless you want to flirt). When you say “Hello”, “goodbye” and “thank you” to people, it’s usually better to make eye contact with them if you can, this helps to build up “rapport” and draw people in, or leave an impression- I’ve learned this just from using pheros for a couple of weeks intensively doing my “studies”. Before I made sporadic eye contact, and it meant nothing, it just showed I was nervous and not interested. Now it means something- I don’t even need pheros to get some benefit from this.

Pheros do “work” but you need to become much more sensitive, something that many men are not good at doing. You’ve got to become aware of the subconscious stuff you have been ignoring previously- the “vibes”. It’s sort of like hypnosis or NLP (neuro linguistic programming).
The best way to get in touch with that sensitive side is to take pheros alone on yourself. Note how you feel before hand, then start writing down what you are feeling afterwards. Try to focus on what you are “really” feeling, and not what you think you should feel. Then, take them later in a social setting, like a shopping mall. Go around, shop, browse around, and talk to people. Pretend to take interest in things and observe. You will see what is happening. You’ll feel your own vibes you are giving off, as well as the vibes of other people. Sometimes you will be wrong, other times you will be right, and you’ll probably start getting better and better.

Also, be aware you’ve got to be near people for the pheros to work. Conversation distance at least. And the longer you hang around them, the more influenced they will be. Pheros will influence you too, but you can learn to ignore them, and they will not do all the work for you. Also, you may notice in long conversations a “consensus” or “group mind” phenomenon working. I often find, for instance, when I use Instant Honesty, that people are more apt to reach a consensus with me, and I am more open to accepting a difference of opinion, without asserting myself. Other pheros seem to result in a group getting a “layed back”, easygoing feeling, and other pheros can cause excitement (androstenone/ammo/turn up the heat)- the group “shares” the same feelings. It’s really wierd, sort of like the “Borg” or telepathic races in science fiction.

I’m hardly perfect and am still a social wallflower but I’m getting much better at projecting an approachable and respectable image.

That’s a line from the product description that it seems like a lot of guys miss. Just thought I’d throw up here in case anybody was wondering about my sanity.

Renny, so glad you brought this up (can’t give you reps yet without spreading first, damn!)

If you tend to rub people the wrong way, IS is a great choice. It might make even your verbal attacks seem good-natured and in fun and as Renny mentioned above it gives out a sexual vibe as well. Try IS by itself initially. You can add Instant Openness later when you get a handle on IS first.

Also, beta-Androstenol is sexual in its own regard to many younger women in your age group. When alone with a girl try adding Instant Honesty. Forget about Ammo for the time being.

IMO, you went a wee bit overboard. You said it yourself, you’re only 17. Since you’re already producing on your own (and not just the androstenone), you need to be gentle.

For example, with your Ammo, spray a wad of tissue and dab it on you rather than directly spraying. Also, use only one phero at a time to get a feel for their effects. Start small and slowly work your way up. When you go whole hog like that, you’re basically wasting your precious juice.

-D4

Firstly, the suggestions are a good place to start. Other members have also posted good ideas. D4’s idea of wearing less than 1 spray of Ammo is clever.

Same goes for the suggestions regarding vibes. It’s hard to articulate it to others sometimes, but once you get a grasp of it, you can start leading yourself.

But I actually wanted to say that you made very good observations about group behavior. Group behavior certainly is different than individual interactions/hits and is often overlooked. Good job. :smiley:

Last night was a bit of a strange night and my friend and I were trying to figure out how the dynamics of the night had played out. Group behavior was something that I was overlooking. I had wondered why some members of the group didn’t assert their opinion in the planning process immediately, but were rather complacent and went with the flow. Later, however, they behaved sort of as if they didn’t get their way. Makes me wonder if the IH that was worn by the majority of the group could have influenced them to be more open to changes, even though internally, they weren’t happy with them, which later manifested later in the night when people are tired, less patient, and have less body control.

Oh no, I’m no dick.

I’m actually VERY liked amongst my peers lol.
PROM COURT BABAY!

BTW, today I was talking to a friend of mine, and told her I liked her. He’s pretty good friends w/ her and told me he’d put in a good word, but I told him, “Don’t, I got this.” (LOL, just a lil useless tidbit)

So, a TINY amount of Ammo, lots of Instant Shine (can you OD on Instant Shine?) and some Instant Honesty (I ALWAYS make sure I go and talk to her a little bit before/during/after class, so I guess I get some personal time with her).

I know you older guys don’t really care, a little high school drama, but it kinda bothers me cuz I could have gone to prom with her. She said yes to the first guy that asked her, and they weren’t really friends. A friend of hers asked me to ask her as well, which I thought was a lil suspicious, but then she said, “Oh yeah, that’s right, you’re going with that other girl, I forgot.”
Prom was kinda awkward for me because my date was one of her best friends, and I had to pretend that my focus was on my date the whole time. Thank God nothing is going on between the girl I like and her date, I told the guy I liked her and he kinda just was like “I don’t blame you.” lol

HAHAHA no prom is done.

I’m just saying, I COULDA gone w/ her, and didn’t. She went w/ the first guy who asked her, who just got dumped by his six yr. girlfriend.
Instead I chose her friend, who I’m not very interested in and I think she recently lost interest in me. Prom was kind of awkward for me dancing w/ a girl I have no interest in pretending I was REALLY having a blast (don’t get me wrong, I did have fun), but I could have had more fun going with her.

I’ve used 12+ sprays of Instant Shine with no bad reactions. OD danger is probably nil.

Just curious, though… why did you use so much? What does one spray do for you? 2? 3?

-D4

To be honest, IDK.

I really don’t even know if I got good solid results yet.

Like I said before, by dousing yourself like that, you’re just wasting your pheromones. Patience, grasshoppa! Start small and OBSERVE.

-D4

Heh, that sucks that you decided to go with someone you weren’t really into. I did that once. It was terrible. My friend’s sister asked me to her prom, all expenses paid, I didn’t really want to go, but I couldn’t bring myself to tell her, no, you’re really ugly and not that socially fun. Besides, it was a nice experience, kinda like, oh, this is what prom is supposed to be all about? Okay, I’m gonna have to pick carefully when my senior year rolls around. :smiley:

I was more concerned about my too drunk friend than his sister. He had to tell me to go dance with her. I was indeed somewhat obligated, so I tried to get her to have the best time possible and just tried my best to end the night gracefully.

Thanks D4, Tuesday I will start doing one spray of IS, and build off of that.

HAHAHA PHIYA, the girl I went with was cute and a freak (good way), but IDK, this new Latina girl from New York just captivated me. I’m just looking for any advantage over all the other dudes that like her that I can get. School ending soon is a problem though, cuz IDK if I’m ever gonna get to hang out w/ her over the summer like at a party or what not. We have TOTALLY different friends.

Well, don’t sit here talking to us. Go hang out with her and make it happen!

Believe me, I’m working on it. Don’t have a whole helluva lot of time though.

I have been walking into 2 sprays of Instant Shine, and spraying Instant Honesty behind my head.

I spray one Ammo to the chest, and that is for the entire day.

I’m gonna be straight up honest w/ you guys, I don’t think I am seeing results. I don’t know if I need to apply more, less, or buy a different spray.

Be a little more descriptive of what’s happening. Sometimes all an application needs is a little jumpstart using behavior. What all have you been doing while wearing that combo? What sort of interactions?

-D4