Mission accepted. The journal of EandJ512

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Listen, Conjurator… I feel what you are saying. Outside of you and Justintime469, I’m not getting any feedback. But, I still go back to this journal when I do small tests and when i’m on the street, and I want to reference a used combination (2 sprays of Instant Shine & 1 spray of Ammo). I also realize that folks who are coming to the site for the first time may find the answers they are looking for on my journal. Like how each Pheromone would work on a 30 year old black guy. Or what self effects to expect for each single one. It’s like a vote from me for each reaction to the general public and self. So, when a person sees a pattern from a majority here on Phero Talk, it should steer that person in the right direction (hopefully).

I also forgot to mention the brief exchange between I and the Socialite last Tuesday. I was sleepy.

Before the class was allowed to leave for the day, we had to do a physical exercise. The Instructor brought out blood pressure cuffs and Stethoscopes, and we were told to find a partner soon. Before anyone had a chance to pick partners, the Socialite immediately turns to me and says, “You wanna do me?”, or “You can do me”. One of those statements. I can’t remember exactly. Of course she then pointed out how what she said could be take the wrong way, jokingly. From there, the pickup artist in me came out. Funny thing actually, because I’m not really attracted to her, but I’ve been practicing on anyone who wasn’t family for so long. I’m sure a lot of PUA’s can relate. It’s like the situation is anchored in my head. If I feel like the conditions are right, sometimes I don’t notice that I’m running game until I notice reactions from the woman and realize what I’m doing. I injected a lot of sexual tension in the way I took her arm, talked to her, put the cuff on her, everything. She appeared phased, but I could also tell that she was trying to maintain her cool. Picture a slightly more relaxed version of a married couple playing “doctor”. It was her turn to “do me”, and she was scared to touch me. So with my hand on her’s, I expressed physically, that it was cool to touch me. Needless to say, we were the last ones finished the assignment.

I feel like, with Instant Shine and the last week’s Ammo, it brought out added reactions in the Socialite. Had I been without, things wouldn’t feel quite the same. I don’t think she would have had the trouble she was having keeping her composure. That’s not to say that she wouldn’t have dug me without, but i’m not arrogant. I had no real interactions with her up until that point, and most of her attention was on her friend. I think the mones were subtly spitting game for me.

Also, Justintime469, just like the Socialite, I wasn’t really digging the Dark Skinned girl to go for numbers. Crazy about darker women, but she misses the mark somewhat. Plus, I felt a friend-zone vibe with her. I’m completely fine with it. I would be worried if she tried to escalate on her own. I don’t really want her, and I have an issue with rejecting women that show sexual interest like that. That would just cause problems down the road.

I’m out!

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Great story with the socialite. I fin it good to have someone to test things on like her even if things don’t turn out in a relationship or sex.

I have a 42 Hispanic lady I like to test social mixes on because she is always grumpy.

I have others to like this for sexual mixes and others.

Your journal is turning out really well and I am glad we can help you out and if you have any suggestions I am open to them to.

I have watched this journal and Johnston212 turn out very well from the start to where you guys are now.

Great work!!!

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Yo! I’m going to check Johnston212’s Journal out later on in the day. I’m just addicted to this website.

But I just wanted to add something about two pheromones that I’ve tried out at the beginning of last week. There’s this girl that I’m dating on and off. At one point, the girl was making herself scarce. By both not coming to see me when she said, as well as not wanting to communicate with me by phone. She only got at me when she wanted a booty call. I know some people will be like, “so what’s the problem?” I dug her as a person, we had a ton of chemistry, and I didn’t want her to be just another piece of ass to me. But, despite trying to work things out, it just seemed like I lost her. All the work (game) and investment (dates and time spent) I put into getting this girl was reduced to booty calls, 2-3 times a month.

Until, I stumbled upon PheroTalk and pheromones as a whole. This leads me to the point of this sole post. I hope I’m not breaking any rules by listing another company’s product, but it’s apart of the one, two punch that has this girl blowing up my phone.

She came over on tuesday after my classes to get her bi-weekly dose of me. But something was different, with me. I was still rocking a fading two sprays of Instant Shine, and I sprayed a shot of TUTH on the back of my neck with some Axe Phoenix as a cover, because TUTH isn’t the greatest smelling thing sold by androtics. One spray rocked her. She wasted no time trying to get me out of my clothes. She was like a completely different person from who she was lately. She kinda reminded me of the way she was when I first started dating her about 4 months ago. Before all the weird behavior.

TUTH is the shyt, no doubt. If you are already in the position to take a chick down, TUTH will definitely make it easy to impose your will.

Then after a few days, Thursday rolls around and I text the woman I’m dating in the afternoon. “I want you”. Nothing more, nothing less. Once she finished work she hauled ass to my spot to see me. I think she was all for coming over Thursday partly because she just wanted to see me, and partly because she wanted to be around this new guy that I appear to be. As long as TUTH was on my neck, she was soaking wet. And she loved it.

But this go round, I was testing out another pheromone, Aqua Vitae. I was told it was a toned down version of A314. I wanted A314 badly, but the cost made me lean towards TAC and Ammo Summer. So taking a deal, I copped and rolled on some Aqua Vitae to the front of my neck. That was all she wrote. I feel like I got my girl back. But now she won’t leave me alone. One thing is for sure. I’m a believer. Officially. I’ve seen the promised land. I gotta get that TUTH for the next time she rolls through.

Til next time.

E&J

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Wow good hit man. If you want her more than a sexual way and to be with her you may need some other products to. You will need to transition from the sexual mixes to maybe something different. When you can get it I think the new A314 would do the trick. If you got TAC this is good. I love TAC. I find when used with Ammo or TUTH I can wear it out in day time with no issues at all. Women will want you and guys respect you.

Now I would maybe look at something for bonding. Since you have Ammo I would try something like that as your base. I don’t know anything about Aqua Vitae. But I would have a good base pheromone and use something like P74 for bonding or IH or something like this. You will still have the sexual vibe, but just with some added bonding.

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Just make sure not to spray that Pheonix Axe directly over or under your mones. These spray-on fragrances do contain a few harsh chemicals that could break down the molecules and make them less effective as well as affecting durability.

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Oh damn. I didn’t know about the Axe spray thing. Hmm. I’ll just have to roll without a cover next time. It’s like i’m in a school for pheromones right now. This is dope! I love it! The Conjurator, A.K.A., The Dean.

Also, Justin, you’re right. I couldn’t keep her with sex, so I likely wouldn’t be able to keep her with this new sexual appearance too long either. I said to myself that I wouldn’t rock pheromones around her, but now, I thing I may experiment with her a bit using your suggestions. Granted, I’m not stuck on her, and I have already made up my mind to keep it moving over a month ago when stuff started to get weird. Although, as I said before, I did do a lot with her with the time we had to each other. A lot of history developed in such a short period of time. With that being said, the next Phero I cop from anywhere will likely be A314. But I also have Instant Openness too. Is that a good alternative to Instant Honesty? It’ll be a little while before I get a new Mones to add to the arsenal.

As usual, thanks to The Conjurator, A.K.A., the Dean. And much thanks to Justintime469, the coolest kid in school.

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Okay boys and girls. I just found out that today was the last day of class. We wrapped earlier than I expected and we’ll just have orientation this Thursday. So I’m not sure if i’m going to be rocking pheros on Thursday. I’m thinking about it, but I want to do solos only and all I have left is TUTH. The others are samples from other companies. I may even just go with a mixup. I’ll figure it out.

Today was actually the dopest day by far. Holy crap! Did I mention that I’m a believer already? Wow!

So, halfway into my commute to class, I spray on 1 and a half of the Instant Openness to-go. I got to the class room about 10:15, so I didn’t have a pick of the room. I ended up sitting to the far right of just about everyone. I sat closest to the Hispanic Girl, and the Socialite, who was almost 30-40 minutes late, but chose her seat next to me in a space she couldn’t fit comfortably. I’m pretty sure, if I wanted to pursue the Socialite, she would be mine. She gave me IOI’s just about, if not every class, now that I think about it. Other than day one and last Tuesday, she sat pretty close to me. We (I, the Socialite and the Hispanic girl) practically were in our own world, until the Dark Skinned girl and the Chubby girl sat in our space latter in the day. They were rather late. The other people who showed up was the Stand-offish Caucasian girl from day 1, the two guys, the Hot Girl with Dreads (Who didn’t seem all that hot today), the Slim Girl from the first day, and this New Girl that I’m not sure if I mentioned in any of the last posts (description below). The Instructor sat to my left and to the other side of the table. Her usually spot. Damn she’s fine, from the shoulders up.

On a side note, The New Girl is cute. I wouldn’t lose my shit if I took her number, but waking up to her legs wrapped around me would bring a tear to my eye. She’s a slim, athletically built brunette. About 5’4" - 5’5". Very timid demeanor, but it’s probably because she’s surrounded by a bunch of black folks that she didn’t get a chance to meet since day one (that changed as the day went on). And her booty is good, buy white guy’s standards. Not incredibly large, somewhat round. It was damn sure curvy in the yoga pants she was wearing. She looked like she was hitting the gym after class, which probably made me dig her more. Especially since it looked like she actually does workout, and it’s not for show.

The class started as it always has. Quiet. But since the Hispanic girl was just reading a magazine, I figured I would say random shit to her to get some sounds in that room and break the silence. So we shoot comments back and forth and get a few laughs in before the Socialite walks in the room. My goodness, the rack on the Hispanic Girl was superb today. She wore a black sheer pullover, with a low rounded neckline. Not low enough to show cleavage, but her’s was on full display. A thing of beauty, believe me. That was my secondary motivation to rap with her, and i’m very sure I got caught looking.

As class began, we were told that we had another exercise to do and right on cue, the Socialite elects me to be her partner. No problem. I think the Hispanic girl was afraid to ask me, though she was already beat out anyways. Plus she probably picked up on the vibes that I was getting. The Socialite moved her seat closer to me, closing the gap between us, instantly causing constant kino that lasted about a quarter of the time we were in class.

The exercise was a repeat of last week’s exercise. Almost the same level of seductiveness. At hindsight, a lot of inappropriate touching on my part. A mix of grabbing her hips, holding her in place by grabbing her thighs versus letting her support herself as the other class did. I practically held my hands in all level 2 and some level 3 kino spots. Imagine if TUTH was on me.

This report is already getting long, so I will break for now. Stay tuned for part 2…

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Woah, thanks man! I am happy to share what I know and glad to see it can help.

The Dean would be Mobocaster though, think of me as a humble school counselor :smiley:.

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Word! Damn that was funny! I’m surprised I didn’t get any tips from him. My headline must suck. LOL!!!

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He’s more active in the advice section than in the journals section, but trust my word, he’s the expert user. :slight_smile:

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I concur and am happy with cool school kid. As long as I keep myself out of that Deans office lol. Great journal. So what are you going to order next?

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YO! I ordered a 30ml bottle of TAC and a to-go of Ammo Summer. Off the top of my head, i’m not sure who recommended Ammo Summer and TAC, but I was hopping to get it before my last class day. The stuff I ordered didn’t even leave the west coast. I’m a little disappointed because I wanted to combine TAC with something. Damn, I doubt I will even see it by orientation day. I’m not even sure if I’m allowed to review a competitor’s product on here. I just know don’t want to use the same thing twice in such a solid testing ground, although I am considering instant Openness as a add on to whatever I decide to rock with.

Thanks for the complements on the Journal. I was really hoping to make it a short, from skeptic to believer story, than a saga where i’m still in that skeptic phase. I was given the best testing scenarios that i’ve seen so far on this site, that didn’t include a class room. I had to take advantage. Hopefully this will help someone somehow.

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Being an experimental product, TAC requires some customization in the lab. It is made to order and is not off the shelves. There are always a few days production delay for those.

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Now for Part 2

So…

Once it was the Socialite’s turn, she did things as timidly as she did last week.She took advantage of touching me, but you could tell she was afraid to turn thing up a bit. I can almost tell when a woman want’s to do something to me. In her case, I think she just didn’t want her cards to show, blatantly. In any event, it was hella fun!

Instead of getting caught up in a story no one cares about, let’s get down to brass tacks.

These are the hits that I noticed. First off, after talking with the Hispanic girl for a while, the rest of the room came to life. Good and bad. I’m not sure if Instant Openness was the reason, but an argument between the Slim Girl and the Instructor erupted, causing the room to go silent for a bit. I think the Instructor crossed the line a bit in what she said, which makes me wonder if the Instant Openness made her lose her filter too. Then the guys started talking about splitting as well. What I did notice about the guys were their laid back demeanor. I never noticed that the last few classes they were in. They seemed up-beat, instead of quiet and focused on class.

Once the hostility died down, the Dark Skinned Girl walked into class. The conversation picked up while the Instructor was in the back office with colleagues, looking for a solution to the Slim Girl’s issues. The Socialite and the Hispanic girl were both pumping out story after story, which made me laugh out loud a few times. Not because of what was said, but because of how the pheromones had them. That’s the most anyone has ever talked in all the classes we took. Even the Hot Girl with Dread had the raps. She was quiet in every class. Holy Shit! This shit is the real deal. After the Dark Skinned Girl got settled in, she jumped in, telling story after story. One of those stories involved her developed ability to swallow things like food and whole ice cubes. WHAT?!?! Damn! No gag reflex.

Another thing that I noticed was the New Girl eyeing me a couple seats away on the other side of the table. I’m not 100% sure that the pheromone are the cause for this hit, fellas. I might have played peek a boo with her earlier in the day, which caused for her to check me constantly to see if I was looking at her. I basically did the same thing back looking for any IOI’s outside of her constant glances at me. I kinda wish I could have done the exercise with her too. Just to loosen her up, and find out if there was some vibes she wanted me to feel. The smiles weren’t enough for me. I may see her one more time, that’s why I’m going to be thinking hard on a knock out combo or solo pheromone for Thursday. That’s our orientation day. And my last day kicking it with these ladies.

Although, I was convinced that pheromones worked when I ran TUTH spray last Tuesday (8 days ago) and then Aqua Vitae (6 days ago), today clenched it for me. Instant Openness is the real deal. I just need to figure out how to work it to my advantage. I haven’t done any pick up in a while, but I’m wondering how fast it works on a run and gun. I sat in class for well over a half an hour before the effects hit everyone. I think this Instant Openness could have made my past dates a slam dunk without all the work. Damn, I gotta do more tests with this.

Even the Stand-offish Girl got pulled into convo. She seemed like a different person too. I actually seen her smile. Real shit.

E&J, out.

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Great work and good hits, man.

Do not presume we don’t care about the back story. Hits description is important, but the context is always interesting for many, too. It adds some skin to the bone.

I’m a hell of a wordy guy in my reports, if not, maybe the one of the wordiest around, you can call me the Francois Rabelais of this forum, but I haven’t got a complaint (yet) :slight_smile:. I guess my Views count would be below grade if I was boring, lol. So need not worry about that. (Is that even a word, “wordiest”)?

Keep the reports coming.

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The wordiest Dean Rabelais LOL.

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That’s why I almost never use IO :smiley:

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Well folks, the testing is over. For now.

I just did my last class day today. What I used was LIIK v1, one spray. I can’t exactly say that it was a dud given that the the instructor (different from the other classes) held court 100%. There were no conversations between attendees other than during break. But nothing special or out of the ordinary happened. Other than an interesting conversation between the Dark Skinned girl and I. Yes, it was random. Yes it was sexual. But the best testing day thus far had to be the previous one, last Tuesday.

Instant Openness has my full attention.

Until next time.

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Well, I surely hope that next time is just around the corner. It’s almost a year of drought in here. :smiley:

Anyway, if you happen to notice the “promo” in my sig, I hope it would signal the beginning of the latest chapters of this cool journal. :slight_smile: