Hey I’m 21 and recently got myself pheromax, ammo (heavy), IS(heavy) and IG . So far I’ve tried pheromax 4 x on different days, a single spray each time. I also tried ammo one once today same application and they both make me feel like I don’t to want talk to anyone anymore and even if I do… I can’t feel the joy of it. The effect of the 2 feels the same, pheromax hits even more heavy. When I wash em off I instantly (pun intended) feel back to normal. I still have to try IS and IG, anyone experienced this? I really feel that I don’t care for company anymore in a relaxed way with these mones applied. I actually typed this while under influence of
EDIT: Well since I now showered, I feel like explaining a bit more. Let’s say that I don’t just not care for the company of others while wearing this stuff but also I don’t seem to be interrested in doing anything really.
I’ve had quite the few state of mind altering drugs in my life and I know how to steer things but I can’t seem to go anywhere with this stuff. I was just wearing 1 spray of ammo (heavy) @ the gym and I while the squatting rack
was occupied I just stared a fucking good 20 minutes out of the window with my friend next to me (he didn’t seem to dare say anything about it). I couldn’t give a fuck about a thing, I didn’t feel hatred or any type of emotions towards anything or anyone really. More of a zombie like state with energie (I could still lift).
So I’m 21, Male, A typical White Dutch Guy… : / I’m also Straight
You do realise that heavy Ammo is not advised for under 30s? Or that Pheromax is another Androstenone heavy product not best suited to younger guys?
What you describe is a not that unusual OD-reaction to too much Androstenone and whilst it can be useful to those trying to promote a “jerk” type persona, you are not exactly getting the best of it. “Strong” does not equal good in phero use.
The only thing I can suggest here is that you get yourself an atomiser and some suitable cologne and dilute them - to at least half for Ammo and maybe a third for Pheromax, then see how you get-on.
Thanks for your Reply Mobocaster! I thought 1 spray wouldn’t be much of a problem, boy was I wrong. I’ll try half a spray of the stuff and otherwise dilute it with a good atomizer of mine as you suggested. I hope it’s an OD cause these mones seem to have potential alright (I mean dafuq…the self effect is just insane already). If in the end it doesn’t work right for me, I’ll pas this stuff on to my father haha!
Spakeck,
many beginners make the same mistakes and think more is more. As a fresh young man you will have to learn that less is more
For me personally, and I’m almost 21, more than half a spray of Ammo indoors or a full spray outdoors kills my mood and sometimes gives me the one or other slight od effect. But then again, it also depends on other factors. You should dillute the Heavy Ammo either by 50% and then try to spray half sprays or dillute by 75% and use full sprays.
If you don’t see results with IS, that may be because it works very subtle. It takes some experience to notice hits with it alone. IG may just not be suited for you really, otherwise if you experimented with the dosages and used it as standalone I can’t explain right now why it doesn’t work for you.
Alright! I’m really glad to hear that it isn’t just me! Well I certainly read about the less = more thing upfront but I saw people around my age posting they sprayed twice on Ammo so I thought, hmmm stronger bottle just 1 spray then so I can go longer with it
I just now sprayed IS and I gotta say that I feel the same as I usually do, no bad effects and slightly affected in an energetic way. That isn’t bad for a self effect as I still feel alright like I usually do (I really always feel damn good when I got nothin going on really, strange me, maybe it’s because I don’t fap haha). Let’s hope it really gives other people a good vibe!
As well as individual variance in natural phero production, the environment/situation you are wearing pheros in can play a part.
Once you have your basic dose, you may well find you can wear more or less depending on the situation - Clubs/parties/uninhibited situations can often use a higher/more overt dose compared to polite/work/college situations.
And then, training/regular exercise also helps maximise your natural Androstenone production - and like the rest of your metabolism, each session will bolster your production for a good couple of days after.
What the hell Mobocaster you’re fucking wise about this pherobusiness haha ! Are U a wizard?
I work out 4x a week (heavyweights bro) so I see heavy Ammo was a really bad choice, even though I think I’ll still have to dilute the normal version of Ammo as well waha!
I just used my atomizer and I put in 3/4 JPG and 1/4 heavy Ammo. It’s a strange but good smell, and I sprayed myself once and honestly I feel pretty damn good with that instant shine combo’d.
So I took the other arm and sprayed myself once more > BAM OD effect > shit son wash that stuff off
Would like to say thanks for sharing your insights!
Naw, Spakeck, Mobo, is a Pheromone Sorcerer… You’ll go far in your mone usage by following his suggestions!
Yup, I’m in my early 40’s and 3 sprays of AMMO is good for my daily wear, though, I can go up to 4 if I’m wanting to hit others hard and quickly with my mone sig.
Gotta say I’m getting the hang of this stuff, I’m good at monitoring my mood and my psych.. but HOT DAMN! IS is great! too bad ammunition’s overpowering mones cancel the effect a little. I’m really excited to go try stuff
If self effects are geting to you, try using further-flung app points - Back of the neck if your hair is short, wrists and depending on clothing the outside of forearms and crook of your elbow are all viable.
Also the Pheromax could go on your chest under a light shirt/t-shirt, that would slow diffusion/impact and maybe self effects but it won’t help Ammo so much.
Also Pheromax contains A1, which can give guys the downers. The only effective way I found to deal with that was to wear a small dose daily for about a fortnight, washing-off when my mood fell and re-applying later when I’d recovered. After about two weeks, I could start using higher doses effectively.
Think I’ll leave Pheromax in the closet for a while then, that A1 might explain the extra heavy OD effects. Gotta say I’d rather just use another product than having to build up tolerance to something that I don’t particularly like to begin with, might try something with it in the future.
Ordered myself some more IShine and a normal strenght of Ammo, last night my dad (mid-50’s) tried the double strenght Ammo and things worked out quite well with his GF so yeh.. gave that away while he had a big on his face.
I defo don’t like the self effects of Ammo, probably also not those (the same?) from the normal strength version but going to combo it with IS anyway. If I want good diffusion and impact from that stuff, but the least possible self effects where would you say I should spray it if I were to go with 1 spray? And if I were to dilute it and would go with 4 sprays that equal the strenght of 1 for extra diffusion?
