What should I do to encourage my female masseuse to be stronger when she is massaging me? Sometimes I just go to sleep during my massage. She is relaxing me, but she’s being too timid and too soft for me. Yes, I’ve mentioned this to her, but she’s bashful about being forceful. She’s tall, about 30 years old, blonde with fair skin, married, no kids.
I want a strong, forceful massage. I want her to get more into her work. She should enjoy giving me a great massage. She should be more vigorous and forceful. As a side effect, I’m okay with leaving her sexually hot and bothered, if need be.
She must respect me throughout. In other words, I do want her to feel good about me later, and to continue to give me great massages. I’m not trying to get her into bed, but if that is an inevitable side-effect, it might be okay, I suppose - as long as I always get a more forceful deep pressure massage.
Perhaps being more persistant about the forecefulness would help. Keep telling her until she gets it right. If it’s her being shy that’s causing the lack of force I’d suggest instant female magic to get her feeling more comfortable. This could also back fire as it makes women more girly.
Maybe use some instant honesty, and instant shine to promote closeness and good mood.
Or you could go the other way and use a high dose of a314 to express the seriuosness of how much you want a forcefull massage. I think this option may be the best. It will shock her sences and make her feel that she needs to give you exactly what you want because you are important.
If all else fails, get a new massuse. I mean…you not trying to attract her beyond the massage are you? If so, you may still want to consider a new massuse.
As a therapist, I can tell you that what you’re getting from her is probably as good as you’re going to get. Different therapists have different touches and some have a mental block about doing deep tissue. I’ve experienced it many times myself with other therapists I’ve traded with and it can be frustrating…and I know how to talk to them. Some are afraid they might hurt themelves or tire themselves out if they go deeper. Some have touch issues and are afraid they might hurt the client. Others are going as deep as they can but their body mechanics are wrong and as a result their massage suffers. The point is, if a therapist doesn’t go deeper after you’ve asked several times, the best solution is to find a new therapist that does.
Try to find a therapist that specializes in sports, trigger point or neuromuscular work…those are some of the deeper modalities and usually the therapist does pretty good deep tissue.
If you’re bent on trying to fix this pheromonally, A314 is a good place to start because you’ll come across as an important client. Instant Female Magic might help relax her and get over her phobias about going deeper. I’m not optimistic it’ll do anything but you have those two products already it’s worth a shot. Try 2 drops A314 and 2 sprays IFM to start. Female therapists have their antenna up for any sexual advances by clients, so avoid anything sexual like heavy doses of 'none…you’ll just spook her.
Speaking as a former massage therapist, there are a number of reasons why she may not feel comfortable giving more “forceful” massage. She may have an injury that prevents her from doing so comfortably (performing massage professionally is quite hard on the therapist’s own body); she may lack the training to do so safely and effectively; she may have dropped deep work from her repertoire due to injuring a client …
If you need a different kind of massage, you’ve done your best to communicate this and she hasn’t been able to do it, you really should seek another therapist. Sorry!
You want MEO-EST… I tested it in a massage setting, I had booked a one hour, the gal massaging me fully lost track of time, near told me her entire life story, gave me a mind expanding massage, ane we both staggered out of there 3 hours later and got the funniest look from the guy at the desk… MEO-EST and massage like cookeis and milk…
Also have had some NICE skin-to-skin things happen with P96 and TAH(watch the dose, don’t go to high on TAH, a little is nicely entactogenic, TAH and P96 together is profoundly entactogenic… you become a sensuous touch bunny with those two paired up)…
As far as relationals go… boundary issues are always part of being a professional… so unless you’re really ready to make some kind of emotional committment to a relationship instead of a hormone powered fantasy fling, I’d keep it on the level…
Rather… I was awestruck in the case of the three hour jobbie because I had some residue on my jacket from the day before, wasn’t even thinking too high wattage awareness, just threw the thing on and walked over to the building, put the jacket on the hooks on the rear wall and flopped down… that was a strong MEO-EST mix with a few other things, mostly the MEO-EST… must have been the equiv. of no more than 5 mu immediately applied… sometimes mones will kick your butt in the weensiest doses…
P96 is pretty forgiving… I’ve never ODd, except to feel like I had a couple of really good artisanal beers with a high hops content, I’d roughly say between 10-25 mu would be good to go, and TAH… mmmm… 5-10 mu, and I’d stabilize then in a little coconut oil or jojoba oil… jojoba is wonderful stuff on the skin BTW… probably my favorite massage oil, most like the skin’s natural secretions so it doesn’t have that alien-foreign greasy slimy feel of some massage lubes, the worst of the worst is baby oil… NEVER use that… ugh.
trivia department: Jojoba is chemically the nearest to whale oil and was first commercially farmed in the 1930s I think… some believe it was the introduction of Jojoba that saved the Sperm Whale from extinction…:o
Jas said the dentist did a painfully thorough job when she used TAF maybe that will do it.
But I am gonna agree with Toil. A314 and a little shine may do it for you to. If not get a new massage therapist, prehaps a man. After all you dont want to get them in bed you just want a good hard massage.
Hey Elevation I just say your mention of Instant Female Magic, that may work well if she is uncomfortable with the harder massage. Excellant thought
Deep tissue massages takes its tole on the masseuse’s hands. She’s probably not giving you what you wants if (1) she’s doesn’t do deep tissue, or (2) she does deep tissue, but is playing your kindness … this way her hands doesn’t bother her, and she can take on more clients.
Find someone that does deep tissue, and you’ll get what you want.
I, personally, wouldn’t waste my -mones.Sometimes with a masseuse, depending, they become comfortable with their client, and the massage begins to lose its good feeling. Get you two or three masseuses, and never let one do you more than once before going through all three … JANE THIS WEEK … BARB NEXT WEEK … AND BETTY, THE THIRD WEEK … THEN IT’S BACK TO JANE.
TAF! My husband got lost massaging me while testing taf at 60+ mcg. His taf induced massage was better and longer than the usual, he was totally in to it. I also think taf increased my own enjoyment, it seemed to super sharpen my senses and awareness.
There is an older post by Jasmin about using taf at high amounts that said it increased tactile sensation for her, so maybe you won’t get the deep tissue massage but taf will have you feeling it more than you would normally. The post should be easy to find with the search function.
If you want a more forceful massage, put on 30mcg of androstenone in an alcohol base, visit a bar and, just to prime the pump on getting your own personal massage, find a bald-headed biker and massage his head. Im sure hell give you the FORCEFUL massage youve been looking for. It may be a good, long time before you need another one. Oh, and the code phrase for a deep tissue massage is Look at the the little bald girly-man.
If, after everything you’ve read so far, you still think there is a chance that your current massage therapist will try going with a more forceful technique (if you can only overcome her seemingly unstated reservations/objections) …
then perhaps you could ask her to try using either (a) her elbows or (b) the flat of her forearms instead of her hands. It’s easy to apply a lot of pressure in point (elbows) or plane (forearms) without risking hand fatigue … and the much diminished sensory feedback from elbows and forearms can make a therapist more comfortable with those techniques.
But if your therapist isn’t doing Deep Tissue because she knows she’s not qualified/trained to ~her~ satisfaction and comfort, offering her the equivalent of dangerous tools to do the job won’t persuade her much, right?
A314 and a little shine may do it for you to. If not get a new massage therapist, prehaps a man. After all you dont want to get them in bed you just want a good hard massage. 
MEO-EST is back in stock, but I have not received either of the bottles I’ve bought yet.