I think I must be a bit of a freak because I must admit I am really struggling with, of all things, MX135 at the moment. I had a quick spray the day my shipment arrived but when I started coming down with the cold figured that was why I had the reaction I did, so I ignored it and started from scratch today.
I can breathe again, and smell things now, so I went into town wearing it again today - same thing happened. I got great reactions from others, really friendly and some unexpected reactions from others - but all positive and good stuff.
I saw some effects on me, for example, the way I spoke and dealt with people was softer. But it makes me feel really stressy and tense, although I didn’t show that when dealing with people.
Going to try playing with the dose tomorrow and check again tomorrow - then will post more fully
I’m getting great reactions with it though - just not very positive self-effects. Which has surprised the heck out of me - I mean it’s MX135!
Think I might have an idea why though. Just need to check it out tomorrow, if I can figure out how to deal with the way it makes me feel then it will be an absolute winner!
Has anyone else had probs with this mix? Everyone else seems to adore it, but something in me is really resistant to it and I am wondering if it is the TAH. I’m beginning to suspect I am not too good at feeling girly in a fluffy sense. I think I am a bit resistant to it and over compensating for that by being grumpy and irritable.
May
Edit Just to add, I did absolutely scour off the Turn Up The Heat before putting on the MX135
I hear you May. One time I used a combo of MX135 and TAH and felt vulnerable, like I needed a man to protect me. Some chicks seem to avoid this effect, though. I have found that I get all of MX135’s positive effects and no negatives when I pair it with a single spray of Instant Sexiness A. Like yin and yang, TAH and TAL, you can go stronger in either direction, but the presence of both seems to feel more comfortable.
Thanks Kitten
I want to try tempering it with something less - to my mind and probably a little harshly - “victim vibe” How many sprays of MX135 to the one of Instant Sexiness A?
I don’t think this is anything other than a psychological thing with the way I see myself and my hatred of being seen in need of “protection”.
That’s my trouble I am waaay too independent for my own good. I’d LOVE to be able to do the “Marilyn” girlie thing - but it seems it’s going to be more difficult than I thought.
When I use MX135 I always temper it with TAL. One spray of TAL to my chest so it wafts up to my nose. This way I get the great feeling without the ditzey feeling I usually get from TAH.
Thats what is so great about Androtics. If one product makes you feel weird you can usually find something to spray closer to your face so you can temper it and get the effects of both.
I’ve had to go and scrub it off and stick on my mystery pheromones. Five hours after applying it and I burst into tears for no reason. (Not like me, I don’t even get PMT.)
I’m ok now though. I’m not sure I like this mix, but I would love to know why. If it helps any I’m English mixed with Irish and a lot of Welsh and blood group B+.
I’m going to try Instant Sexiness straight before trying to use it to temper my reaction to MX135. I’ve not used it yet, and it seems sensible to get a feel for it before using it in a mix.
I just don’t get it though. I was really looking forward to this one, reports all said it was fun and friendly.
There must be something in the MX135 that you’re reacting to. I haven’t noticed any problems myself with MX135, but there is another one that I’ve used that gives me similar reactions to those you’ve described. It’s MX174, and the times that I used more than 3 to-go sprays of it, my mood dipped to the point that by the end of the day all I wanted to do was sleep it off. I think of that mood as the “I’ve lost my last friend” feeling. It’s definitely NOT normal for me.
At the time I was testing the MX 174, the results made me reluctant to try it again. I might give it another go and make sure I keep it away from my face and areas where I might smell it – just to see whether it still gives the same reaction.
When you try MX135 again, perhaps keeping it away from your face and the front of your body might help tone down the negative effects on you but still give you the positive effects on the people around you. Kitten’s and Tisha’s advice about tempering it with TAL or Instant Sexiness sounds good, too.
When I wore MX135 – twice, recently – I had more of a good-time/party/jubilation feeling. I’ve worn straight TAH (probably 3 sprays to the cleavage, neck, and wrists), too, and it usually just makes me feel nicer and more open to people but not in the sense that I want/need protection. I tend to be pretty independent and have a strong personality when I let it show (as I told someone recently, “I don’t insist on things very often, but when I do insist, I REALLY want my way!”), so the softening effects of TAH probably help me. I find I don’t do so well with TAL.
And then there are times when I don’t need pheromones at all . . . like when I ramble uncontrollably! LOL
Well, I tried a little experiment last night. I blasted myself with two 25mcg to go sprays of straight TAH on the chest.
I thought after my struggles with MX135 that I would enter the arena of doom again.
I didn’t - I had no bad reaction from the TAH at all. I thought the TAH was the culprit in the MX135, obviously it is not. Anyone know what else is in there that could have that effect? Either one product or an interaction between a few.
I’m glad it’s not the TAH though. Sometimes I might want to girly-fy myself a bit!
However, I think the MX135 is off limits for me from now on.
Lets see. You now know its not the TAH. Have you used any Androstenol products like Instant Openness or Instant Honesty if you have with no problems it cant be that. You have used cops so it cant be that. I am thinking there is probably one of the puratives in this. P100 made me cry over dumb stuff and P94 made me feel agitated and upset almost scared, I had to run and wash it off.
The best thing to do is give Jas a call and ask her. She probably wont tell you exactly whats in it but together you can narrow it down. If you cant call her try a PM but be specific and give her all the information about what you have used that dosnt bother you so she can narrow it down.
Once you figure out which one is the culprit you can avoid it. If you want to try a “Marilyn girlie thing” and dont want to use the MX135 to the back of your head try MX140 and a few sprays of TAH.
Tisha
PS
I was just thinking are you sure the feeling your getting is not the “new pheromone head rush” that happens to alot of people when they first use something new? I have it happen about the first 2 or 3 times I use a new product espcially if they have nols in them and then my body adjusts to it and it dosnt happen anymore.
Thanks for the advice. It’s not a pheromone head rush, unless a pheromone head rush makes you feel “I hate myself” for hours. It also makes me feel very worthless, irritated and that I want to isolate myself from the world.
Rightie
Stuff that doesn’t bother me
TAF
TAH
TAL
MX134
p79
Instant Shine
EOW
and I really like the smell of
Turn Up The Heat (possibly too bit of info - I can huff the smell of this for hours, no matter what stage I am at in my cycle)
Instant Sexiness A
I think I am ok on alphanol because i think this is in a lot of the above and I also reckon it is in my mystery phero product because of the way that makes me feel and behave.
I am not so sure about betanol though…
I’ve got some Instant Honesty x2 to go I will go an give myself a few good sprays and check it out, I think honesty is 80 beta to 20 alpha?
I’ll try the Instant Openness tomorrow to double check on the other Androstenol.
In the meantime I’ve got one an a half MX135 to go’s I won’t be using, anyone want to swap them for anything? Save me bothering Jas with a return?
I’ve tried the 2 sprays of 2x Instant Honesty to go to my chest - Not what I would chose to be inhaling as a stand-alone product, particularly when totally alone. Makes me a bit reflective and did seem to gloom me out a bit. MX135 did bring me down too, but the “disappearing feeling” I got with MX135 was not there with the Honesty, and as I will normally be spraying Honesty on my hair - this is not a problem.
So, heavy betanol has made me a smidge maudlin, but not to the degree of the MX135 and some of the other feelings the MX135 gave me are totally absent on Instant Honesty. I’m not even convinced betanol is in 135 anyway!
I will try doing this again with just the honesty though, it might be amplifying an underlying mood - making me think about it more, and as I am alone making me “honest” with myself about something that has been at the back of my mind for a while and I have been trying to ignore. Maybe in solitude it makes you introspective?