MX292 OD test... heh!

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Yesterday I was feeling much better (thanks to early zinc!) so I decided to test the MX292. It has gotten such raves on the guys side, I really wanted to see how it compared to the Putatives and such I’ve been playing with.

So, I started out with 3 sprays to the chest. At first I didn’t get much in the way of self effects, except a little energized. It smells really good, like a nice, clean man’s daily cologne. That is such a nice change from the heavy, heavy neroli scent of so many of APR’s products.

After a while I still got no self effects, so I added 20.0 mcg TAF on top to intensify the signal, and then 3 more sprays MX292.

I immediately got some weird auditory effects, upper body, shoulder and neck tightening, weird visual effects, brightening of my visual field. At 5 minutes post TAF application I got a definite relaxation and chill factor, without any sedation. That was followed by the most annoying mental diarrhea. I wanted my head to shut up all the blah, blah, blah, nonsense commenting. It was awful wanting myself to just stfu. LOL. It had the same surreal stimulant effects I remember from my long ago experiments with LSD. I get the same effects with too much TAA.

I got a lot of mixed signals early on - muscle relaxation and tightening, mental chill factor and mental diarrhea. After a short time my facial muscles started noticably contracting, mainly the smile muscles. It was tiring and a bit uncomfortable. At the same time I was getting to the point I just wanted to go to sleep.

I started getting the same tic-like movements as when I test high dose TAC, so I think there is TAC in the mix. That resolved pretty quickly.

After about 20 minutes most of the annoyance of the mix dies down, tics resolve, mental diarrhea goes away, and the mix seems to integrate better. What was left were the bright visuals and auditory signals, and the total chill factor. It seems like a really good mix for sailing on a warm sunny day.

What didn’t resolve fast enough for me was the upper body, neck, shoulder and face muscle tension.

Around 25 minutes post application something new kicks in and I began to feel lower body physical stimulation and pleasurable sensations. It wasn’t strong, but something I haven’t experienced before with pheromones.

The upper body neck, shoulder, and face tension continued past an hour into the test. It was really uncomfortable.

After a couple of hours I felt really baked and done, tired and worn out.

So ODing on this is prolly not a good idea. It seems like a good mix, but I don’t recommend wearing it with TAF.

I think it has a lot of TAA in it, maybe alpha androstenol or P74 or one of the other mental molecules, TAC, P79 maybe, P102 or one of the other chill molecules, Androsterone? maybe, meo-est maybe, but if so it doesn’t play well with TAA.

Diane

The Burnout Files
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Great report :smiley: Wow way to take one for them team Diane.

I hope your feeling better. That was defiantly a major OD big time.

You may want to calm down on the TAF a little though. I know from your posts you wear it alot but high dosages can really do a number on you. I am not just saying that Jasmin told me the same thing when I was using it. Some mixes already have TAF in them and 20 mcg is a lot. Could be why you got so tired after.

I cant wait till you try it on your hubby and tell us how you feel

Great report though reps :wink:

Tisha

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Yeah, it may not have seemed like it from the OD, but I really do think this is a sweet mix. At one point, I really could see myself sailing on the open water with this mix and just eating up all the sensation from the sun and wind. It is a happy mix, a good social and an attractant. It has enough come-hither to be intriguing - not sure at this point about the follow-thru though. And the smell is really yummy. I didn’t want to shower it off! :smiley:

I’m good now after a nice long sleep. I wanted to use less TAF, but I ran out of my 10.0 mcg dosage, and I was too lazy to dilute some. I knew as soon as I sprayed the last 3 sprays of MX292 that I had used too much TAF, but oh, well, at least it gave good OD signals.

I know everyone is different and a lot of responses have to do with basic brain chemistry. TAF generally doesn’t deplete my neurotransmitters the way that TAA, P100, and P107 do. With those I always crash hard and long.

I wanted to thank you for the heads up about the precursors. I’ve been loading up on B and C vitamins and it is amazing how fast I can recover with just those.

Diane

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True about the differences of peoples tolerance for different molecules but there is some other issues that occur with it that cause Androtics to be cautious with it from what I have been told. Never had those issues myself with TAF though, just the tiredness.

YW, They help me to, I havnt gotten into the nootropics, I would like to just dont have the time to learn about them yet.

Tisha

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I take a variety of vitamins and such each morning, but specifically I take phenylalanine, tyrosine, and GABA when I am using pheros consistently every day. Those really help to keep me on top of my game, whereas without them the pheros make me mentally tired and sluggish after a while.

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That is interesting, Ariadne. I’ve been pondering essential AA and trying to decide which ones to pursue. Tyrosine is good for a lot of reasons. phenylalinine is supposed to help your memory as well. Haven’t tried GABA, but I’m certain I’ll add that to the list.

Diane

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I take high dose Vit B’s (1 slow release combo, B12, B6 & B5), L-Tyrosine & Phenylalinine every day. (The AA’s on an empty stomach, the rest with food) It makes my Dex more effective and prevents NT depletion (as I’m on fairly high doses)…The day after my TAF adventure (slight OD :roll_eyes:) I doubled my L-Tyrosine and I felt fine, I had expected to feel hung over & drained, but I wasn’t that bad at all :slight_smile:

I’m not sure how GABA would work with ADD though, being an inhibitory NT and all…I know it works great for anxiety, but I wonder if it be beneficial for ADD. I know AED’s that work specifically on GABA receptors tend to be slightly sedating and affect cognitive functions like concentration etc as side effects…

I love my neuropharmacology…sigh…:roll_eyes: I don’t get to use it now when I’m in clincal medicine…I do miss my research life sometimes…

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I know several people with the ADD who take GABA in conjunction with or in place of things like Ritalin and Adderall. I’ve never heard them complain of any side effects, but that’s definitely something to talk over with your doctor first.

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Well, I’m not sure, of course… but I think quite a few of the really yummy pheromones trigger the GABAA pathways. Always good to replenish.

Diane

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Hmmm, that’s interesting. What’s the half-life of GABA? Do they take it am or pm? I can imagine that GABA could help with sleep problems that Ritalin & Adderal sometimes cause…

Diane…Have you tried TAK? That’s supposed to be a bit sedating isn’t it? Do you have any idea of the mechanism if that’s the case?

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while i have heard wonderful stuff on nootropics, im personally a fan of popping as little as possible so i did some research on natural repletion.

i take zero vitamins, eat bananas and walnuts occasionally; i drink beer almost every day ( but im counting the days when i only taste a tablespoon for testing) and i figure if the beer is micro-brewed unfiltered, im getting a boatload of brewers yeast (b-vitamins) among other things .

it is possible to replete without another purchase :smiley:
just got to get creative in the kitchen.

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I haven’t tried that one yet. I just got a slew of new putatives to try so not sure when or if I’ll give that one a go. P90, P91, and P104 are my next tests, I think.

Diane

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This was batch #2.

Diane

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To me it sounds like a -None OD. I’m figuring this mix has
6-16 mcg of none
P74
TAA
maybe P79 (at first I thought TAF, but now I read how TAF played in there for you I’m almost certain its P79. TAF and P79, IMHO, don’t mix well.
Not sure which Nols yet
and P83

I’m sure a few other Putatives, but I haven’t gotten that deep into it yet.

Diane have you felt anything like this from -None before? I think there are some guys, like mark-in-dallas and myself, that believe in the -None heavy mix, but not many others. Just trying to get your opinion.

Tisha, do you have any? I’m not sure if the girls sent you one Friday, but if they didn’t I’ll send you one of mine. I’d like some more ladies to try this too.

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Yep I have it, I got it with last months order. I will start testing it this week when I go back to work. :wink:

Tisha

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Thank God, because after I said that I realized what the heck I had to give up. I cried

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You know I would have made it worth your while :wink: LOL Stop crying and go watch football :smiley:

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Steve, have you tried both batches? If so do you think they’re the same?

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I’m thinking alpha androstenol is in there, definitely, because of the annoying yack yack in my head. I didn’t get any none in it. None makes me pissed off, and sets my teeth on edge… I had none of that. Androsterone, maybe. Definitely TAC, though. It is the only thing that causes transient tic reactions, in my limited experience. TAA, definitely.

Diane

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Great guesses Diane. We have all been guessing and Jassy cleared that up in the men section. Apparently we are all way off. There is more then Alpha and Beta nols apparently so this may have some new molecules we havnt seen yet. I would have guessed nols and P83 among other things. I am thinking yes there is anone in there but I cant tell how much. I do get that same cranky sexually anxious feeling with it so it may be alot.

Have you tried it out and about yet ? How about on hubby ? Can you think of any other putative that gives you the annoying yak yak ? Maybe that the one Jas is referring to in the nols.

Tisha