I don’t think that is exactly what he is referring to, but thanks.
ICM 0.25.05a
TAA (Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs) 4 mcg per spray
Alpha Nol (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) 5 mcg per spray
P93 (Experimental Pheromone P93 - Alpha A314) 3 mcg per spray
P74 (Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314) 5 mcg per spray
P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) 5 mcg per spray
ICM 0.25.05b
TAA (Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs) 4 mcg per spray
ANOL (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) 5 MCG PER SPRAY
P93 (Experimental Pheromone P93 - Alpha A314) 3 mcg per spary
P74 (Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314) 5 mcg per spray
None 5 mcg per spray
TAC (Molecule C – Social, Feed Good, Sensual Pheromone - Pheromone Labs) 5 mcg per spray
ICM 0.25.1a
TAA (Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs) 4 mcg per spray
Beta Nol (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) 5 MCG PER SPRAY
P93 (Experimental Pheromone P93 - Alpha A314) 3 mcg per spary
P74 (Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314) 5 mcg per spray
None 5 mcg per spray
TAC (Molecule C – Social, Feed Good, Sensual Pheromone - Pheromone Labs) 5 mcg per spray
ICM 0.25.1b
TAA (Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs) 4 mcg per spray
Beta Nol (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) 5 mcg per spray
P93 (Experimental Pheromone P93 - Alpha A314) 3 mcg per spray
P74 (Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314) 5 mcg per spray
P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) 5 mcg per spray
Thanks Jesse, have you test MX302 with p96, P86 or P83?
Can I make MX302 with different concentrations?
I have (all 30ml):
P93 20mcg
P74 25mcg
TAA 25mcg
TAC 25mcg
None 10 mcg
Anol 10mcg
Thanks for posting the info guys…but i think you misunderstand what I am saying. (Except you Snoop)
What I am saying is, I have at length tested 301 and 302, and i have now made the ICM’s they were based on and i am getting different hits from the ICM’s than I did with the MX’s. This leads me to believe that either the levels of the ingredients are different, or they have different ingredients. Dont get me wrong, 301 and 302 are absolutely awesome. They are 2 of my favorires. Im just saying the results from the actual ICM’s are different.
I totally agree. I’d gone out last night wearing a batch of ICM 0.25.1a that I’d made quite a while ago and rediscovered while cleaning out my car (I’d goofed when I made it and had TAC at 6% grapefruit scent when the rest was 6% Akuto.) I was seeing different hits than with MX301/MX302. It was a GREAT night, though. 
WOW! Just goes to show what happens to a thread when it becomes a sticky…I put up for sale over 2 days ago a bottle of MX292, MX297, MX203, A 5ml of IFM, and MX331(Panty Scorcher) in the “Trading Post” thread and ive got like 3 offers about each. They were good offers, but i figured my PM box would be flooded. Oh well.
So Jess what you are saying is the ICM mixes that were produced as MX301 and MX302 are different in makeup than Steve’s ICM? Would be great if Steve chimed in on this thread to see if he noticed a difference. So how were your hits different than the MX’s?
More obvious or less obvious. Just curious.
Pretty much, but please keep in mind that this is just an opinion. My hits have been different in comparing the 2. They very well could be the same, but the type of hits suggest different.
I would love to have his opinion, but I dont think he reads my journal.
More obvious with the homemade ICM’s. The -none hits are just way more blatent, and happen sooner. The sexual side of the homebrew outshines the MX’s. The best way to describe it would be ICM is sexual/social, and the MX’s are social/sexual. Thats why I think there is more buffering in the MX’s.
And guys…please keep this discussion here in the journal. I didnt mention it in the main forum because I didnt want one of those “we were lied to” threads and people getting pissed off if the formulas are different. Plus, to my knowledge, no one has ever said that the 301-304 MX’s were the exact mixes SteveO posted. I just wanted to see if anyone else had noticed the same thing I did. Apperantly Snoop has noticed some of the differences also. If SteveO was to come by and say we should put it on the main board so more people can comment, I will write it in report form and post it there. I have just seen too many threads blow way out of proportion from a simple question or statement.
I can chime in on this since I have tried Snoopy’s ICM composites with one of them being the Tobacco Vanille composite which if I remember correctly was one of the ICMs without -none? The other one being the Cool Water Game ICM composite, and the last one being the Sandalwood ICM composite. If Snoopy comes in to refreshen my memory on the ICMs these three were based on then I can then compare them to the MXs 301, 302, and 303 which I have tested with MX304 still needing a test run.
Anyway, I got great hits with MX301, very IH in effect. MX302 was more hit or miss than MX301, which is surprising since it has been mentioned that this is one of the -none ICM MXs with Alpha Androstenol (my favorite social.) I say surprising because I kept on feeling like if I was ghosted some of the times, something that hardly happens to me when I wear something with Alpha Androstenol in it. So something in MX302 for some reason no matter if it has Alphanol in it doesn’t mix well with me and makes it hard for me to notice hardly any good IOI with it except on some occasions some DITH stares like if they’re stunned for a bit (hard to explain.)
MX303 still needs more test runs, but as I was saying if I remember what is in Snoopy’s ICM composites he gave me then I can chime in on this because all I can say is that I have received great IOI with Snoopy’s Cool Water Game ICM composite, some decent ones with the Tobacco Vanille, and the Sandalwood one still needing more test runs as well.
Hey Mikoto, I’m glad that you were getting results from those! They do differ slightly from the MX’s in that they are oil roll ons as opposed to alcohol sprays.
The Cool Water Game was ICM 1a. Tobacco Vanille was a weaker version of 1b (glad to know you still got some results) and the Sandalwood was a 1a also (from the batch that had the oil with ylang ylang).
I’ve noticed the exact same thing between MX301 and MX302!
MX301 I absolutely love. Great hits, very much betanol like however it seems to really be able to attract as well. Its a very “connected” feeling mix, without causing too much comfort so to speak. I wish I had all the components to make it myself. I am almost out and want to save it for a date or something important.
MX302, very very hit and miss. Much more subtle than 301 when it does hit. Not really my thing I guess. Only big hit I’ve gotten with it was a girl pulling me up to the bar so I can get a drink faster then pressing her butt against mine the entire time lol.
I used to really like alpha-nol but lately have been getting better results with beta.
Also, I am glad to see these kind of discussions are still happening somewhere on this forum. When I joined the men’s section was actually good, seems like it went to hell now.
Agreed, now it’s pretty obvious that everyone has to start a clueless n00b but when time passes by with all this knowledge at their disposal and they still fail to really try to at least understand the basics it makes it kind of frustrating since it kind of takes away from discussions like these where everyone is at least a few steps more ahead of the pheromone hobby knowledge wise.
Anyway, I still love Alphanol and Betanol is great too no doubt! However, I’m just not sure why it didn’t work quite well in MX302. It was as we’ve mentioned a little bit more subtle than MX301 (probably by a mile at least for me.)
OK, it’s just that these ICM names really confuse me. Anyway, it totally makes sense then! IF MX301 is 1a then the Cool Water Game 1a is like those hits x2. Same level of comfort, IOI, and more “cuddly” for lack of a better word. I have only tried the Sandalwood a few times but I also did notice some IOI as the ones with the Cool Water Game, but for some reason I think the Cool Water Game diffuses a lot better and that is my reason why I think I have received better IOI with this one.
I’d really be interested in Snoopy making a Pink Sugar ICM 1a or an Angel 1a since Angel diffuses VERY well from The Common Scents, and since the heat is right around the corner diffusiveness will skyrocket! Other than that, I have to be more inclined to say that MX301 has to be the one with Betanol, it’s just so Betanol in effect that it’s hard to miss. I should also mention that when I was testing MX301 these hits started happening around 3 to 4 sprays where as 3 to 4 sprays of MX302 actually seemed to make me feel like if I ghosted which I’m sure I didn’t, but hits weren’t as prevalent as in MX301 at these doses.
I really enjoyed MX301; MX302 nada…; if I remember correctly Steve did not get much from MX302, but had great success with MX301.
MX302 has worked very well for me. I have been approached countless times while wearing 301, but when I am doing the approaching .05b and 302 have been quite effective.
Man I luv these discussions …
I have to tell you something. Designing your own mix is a pain in the ass. Im not even talking about the mixing part of it all, its the testing and revising part that gets really frustrating. It seems that whenever you adjust one ingredient, you have to adjust another. Then its week after week of testing this version and that version, just to realize:
A. Your mix fucking blows and you should just buy the Instant line
B. You put too much of something in there and there is a 250lb dude swinging at you, or some bimbo talking so much you want to jab a hot soddering iron in your ear
C. You spend way too much time in bars and coffee shops and you have developed an alcohol and caffine dependancy
D. You have to sell your highly sought after MX’s to feed your Phero OCD
E. This all could have been avoided if you were just given the formula for MX178
F. That maybe, just maybe, you have created a great mix that works around everyone (see ICM 0.25.1a)
Just giving you some things to think about before you decide walk this trail.
Or maybe you are confused by my opinion because you cant quite fit your head that far up your ass 
Cause thats were mine seems to be.
Good Times!
Hilarious!
JJ - got a question for you. Really basic mixing question.
If I buy IH 2X and IS 2X and an empty to go. Let’s say I want to mix them together 1:1. Can I just take that empty ToGo, fill it half way with IH and half with IS, shake it up, let it sit for 3 days and it’s ready to use?
Thanks!