The Denied Journal

Welcome all.
I will edit this first Post as my Journal grows. Its like an Index. So maybe you like to check this first post. Feel free to add your thoughts, suggestions and comments. Just don´t steal my beer…

Current Project: None

My Mixes:

My Daily Work Combo
2 Drops A314. 1 Spread between Wrists one drop on the top of my head.
1 Spray of Instant Honesty 4x (back of head) when going to important meetings
This one is reduced to the max. I see the most of A314 while its pure and so i decided to subtract the Instant Shine from this mix.

My Training/Sports Combo
1 drop A314 to the head.
4 drops TAA Oil (80mcg)
2 Sprays of Instant Female Magic
1 Spray of TUTH

Clubbing Combo in planning
2 Sprays of Ammo. One to wrists (spread) and one to upper chest.
1 Spray of CTTM3 (IO2x mix with IH4x so that you get a custom Come Talk To Me Mix 2 double strength)
This one is also reduced to the max. There was Turn Up The Heat in this mix. Its probably better to leave it out

Turn on Mix that did´t turn on!
2 Sprays of Turn Up The Heat. Left and right side of the head under ears.
2 Sprays of Instant Female Magic. Over the Turn Up The Heat when it is dry.
5 Sprays of P83. Chest. Hair, Wrists and neck… 15mcg /spray to a total of 75mcg
Comment: Did´t see any reaction on my wife while watching dvd. This a classical Nooby Mistake. Read on Page 2 for details.
I will leave that here for everyone who thinks: “Much will help much”… it don´t!

My Experimantal Instant Sexyness Combo
1 drop A314 to the head
2 sprays Ammo wrists & Neck
2 sprays IS/A 5xcops grape to chest and tummy

Here is my Dirty Talk Mix

My thoughts about Products:

Togo Bottels are less Obvisious!
A314
Ammunition & OD on AMMO with 4 Sprays
TAA OIL vs Instant Shine

Testing Weeks:

P83 testing week I
Turn up the Heat Testing week I

My Newbee Tipps & Tricks Guide (The Denied Journal - #25 by Denied)

Whats the weather at Boca Beach:
I need that one, becourse it my US Clock… Im not shure if this is near the place androtics produces but i would like to work near there :smiley:


From here on it is the old thread!
Hi.
i decided to start a journal after most other journals here gave me the information and knownledge i was looking for.
Huh?! No. In fact i got most information from the answers in the Threads i opend.

This one is my little space here i own. My castle. Im not very good in writing journals and the many i start writing times ago, had only a few pages.
I hope this one will be a little better. I hope you all will add thoughts, suggestions and advises here. That´s what i would like to happen.

I would like to give you a short overview of my situation.

About Myself:
I´m a little over 30 years. Libra. My English is ok. Im … about 5,74 foot …and my weight is … 194 pound (US). That´s a little overweigted but in fact i look quite sporty and athletic. I can hide most under XXL T-Shirts and so noone i know would say that im overweigted. In fact they are always supprised when i tell them about my real weight.

I don´t like sports too much. Maybe a little swimming, biking. I like strategy games and computers. But im not that kind of Nerd i would have in mind if i would read that. I spend a lot of my time talking to others. I have good self confidence. I have no problems talking to new people or to women. I even enjoy it.
Im married and have two kids. My oldest son (Mike) is 3 years now and the little one (Kathrin) is 6 or 7 month by now.
I´m working in at a major Computer Business in Berlin. Having my own division is a quite good job here.

So why did i start using Pheromones:
I have/had a issue with my wife. There are other post from me where you can read about that, but in short:
After we got married her libido sank to zero. I can count the times we had sex the last 3 years on maybe two hands. In fact our relationship was ok. We talked about it and where seaching for solutions together. These Problems got better and had different courses.
The birth of my first son, then 6 month ago the birth of my second. Then she said it is the two children and that she can´t get into a romantic mood with a baby crying next to her. That she is so tired in the evening. She doens´t feel sexy anymore… Then she switched to Depo a month ago … Still has no libido. As u can see, there is more than one course.

First i thought maybe we had a relationship Problem an i ordered
Instant Shine and Instant Female Magic.
After experiencing the effects of IS i ordered
A314 and Instant Honesty 4x for my work.

After her mood changed the better we had a lot to talk and we decided to seach together for solutions.

First she won´t go with Depo anymore. Let me tell you. Its poison for her. She is bleeding since 3 Weeks now. Constantly changing mood.
Instant Female Magic and Instant Shine helps a little to stablize her mood.

I ordered
Ammo
Turn Up The Heat
P83
Instant Shine 2x

I was not planning to use the hot stuff. Just have it and wait till the depo is gone. I ordered the IS2x becourse the one from my first order is empty :cool:

So this is my Situation right now. After my Pheroexperiments started in February i would call myself still a noob.

So here is why i go on:
I had good results from most of the prducts i own. Only Ammo is in testing phase and i didn´t get any hits from it by now…
Huh.. don´t think i will cheat on my wife!. I would never do that. Even we never would have sex, i could not cheat on her.
But i like the idea of being sexy. I like to flirt a bit. Thats all. Checking my current marked value all the time.

Why i stick to Androtics:
Easy. I ordered NPA and Scent of Eros from the other side. I wore it a few times and havn´t had any hits with them. I don´t like the smell of Scent of Eros and NPA is a hell to dose… Maybe they work with other products. I will give them a chance if my Androtics products are empty, i think.

Today i need a new haircut.
My hairdresser is the sister of a friend of mine and she always comes to our house. She is very attractive and i love to chat with her.

I just sprayed 1 Turn up the heat and 1 instant honesty 4x Lets see if and how she is affected :slight_smile:

hehe that was fun. She always likes to talk a lot. Quite common for hairdressers, i think. At first she startet to talk about a family event, after about 5 mins she got into details what happend after the dinner with her boyfriend. I just had to smile :smiley:

Nice, it’s too bad about your wife. Didn’t you start a thread in the main forum about that earlier this month/last month?

Do let us know about that haircut. :slight_smile: EDIT: Nevermind.

yes i did. I´ll copy the best advises here..

Thats why i ordered the TUTH. I will report on that later.

Jepp. TUTH is only an option when my kids are both to bed. I was wearing Ammo the last two weeks. She likes the scent. I like it. Pretty good as a cologne. But in fact i didn´t see any hits. Not from her and from anybody else around me. I used 2 Sprays. The only thing… i let my sister sniff it. I told her that it is my new cologne and if she thinks that it fits me (shes about 37). Since then she keeps asking me, if i can order it for her husband :stuck_out_tongue:

I agree. There won´t just be one solution. It´s not like spraying pheros and the world is ok. In fact it works some time with my new Instant Shine 2x… 30 mins after applying 2-3 shots the world is just fun.

Its my second bottle of IS and it works very good for me. But although my wife is exposed to it almost every day now, she seems a little more resistent. She´s not in a bad mood, just not as happy and joyful as i am when i wear it. 2 Days ago she told be she has a bad mood… so i sprayed 3 IFM and 2 of IS2x. I asked her a hour later if shes still in a bad mood. She told me she still is, but in fact i did not notice it. She behaved quite normal. I don´t understand her sometimes :confused:

We are working on privat time for ourselfs. I also think this is important. But i´m a little afraight that she won´t be able to distance from her daily life in only a few hours. I think we would talk about the children when we go out having a nice dinner in a restaurant. It would be time for us but it won´t change much. :frowning:

Hey. that was the advice on how i ordered a 30ml P83 15mcg Bottle.
I didn´t try it on my wife becourse she is still on Depo.

Tisha gave me that great advice:

That was a thing i noticed. After the birth of our second son she´s still not happy with herself. Thinks that she is not sexy anymore. Weights to much. She´s unsatisfied with herself. It doesn´t matter if i keep telling her, that i do not care and she is in fact very good looking. She is. But she don´t believe me or she thinks i only tell her becourse she is my wife…

So i add this to the Problems list.

I ordered as adviced for mothers day. But i was a little late and after my paypal account did make some problems i canceled the order.

I will order it soon, but there are many other things on my wish list.

And im not so shure about the 5x cops. My wife and me decided to stay away from hormonal contraceptives in future. And the Depo is holding on for 2 month :frowning: If i am right, she will naturaly produce cops then, so why adding?
But i created a little story if i order it for her. I´ll tell mostly the truth becourse i just can´t lie.
I´ll tell her i was shopping and there was an advertisement from a new product called “Instant Sexiness” for german market. I tried it -> i like it, and so i thought i buy it for her. It is not so uncommon that we have those new product advertisements in our regular shops, so its quite logic. And it explains why the bottle is not looking like a perfume bottle and why there is no outer packing.

Others on my wish list are:
P79 for example. Mostly becourse it helped biggun. But i read about it as an amplifier. Its quite interesting. I would like to experiment with it.

Instant Openness 2x
This is becourse i own a Instant Honesty 4x and i like to create a CTTM2
Tisha gave me that great advice…

So i will mix 10ml Instant Honesty (4x) with 20 ml Instant Openness (2x) to get my Come Talk to me 3 mix :smiley:
That is, if im not wrong, 50% alphanol and 50% betanol, right?

After all is pretty much money. I can´t spend that much right now. So i have to wait and stick withe the prducts i already own.

There was this Party. I wrote a little Report.

I tought about the less hits. I think i ODed. Although i sweated a lot, should have stay at normal doseages… After all i was dressed not too good and my hair needed a haircut too.

Becourse my wife has access to my Paypal Account i made myself a new one. Connected to a different Bank Account i use for my Studio. It was nesscessary becourse in the Paypal Transaction Achive there stands “Androtics” for each time i ordered there. If she got courios she might just google it, and i don´t really know a good story to come up with the truth.

The Bank Account connected to the Paypal Account must be verified. Not going into details this takes 1-2 days.

Then they say. Paypal Account is verfied. Cool i think… so i placed my order.

Here is my cart :smiley:

Instant Openness 2x ( i gonna mix some of it with my Instant Honesty 4x to get my CTTM3)

Customized Instant Sexiness A with grapefruit and 5x cops

MX203

30ml P79 with 15mcg

and a fresh bottle of Turn Up the Heat!!!

Soooooo… i was really happy to order and then BANG an Email from Paypal arrived. They have to do some security checks and will transfer the money in 4-7 DAYS. WTF!!!

Now i see my shopping cart at androtics with the comment “waiting for money” :frowning:

They won´t do anything on weekends so they will transfer maybe wednsday so if im lucky i only have to wait till Friday next week till my Pheros come.

Kids are at their grandparents today. Good time to lay on
2 Sprays Turn up the Heat (togo)
2 Sprays of Instant Female Magic
5 Sprays of P83 15 mcg

So here we go… i´ll tell tomorrow

Nothing special happened. First we where watching DVD. I started palming her head and we where kissing. She enjoyed the movie and was smiling happy. She was relaxed and i think it was a happy and relaxing evening for her.

But there is nothing to report about Pheromones… a little disappointing :frowning:
But after all it wasn´t negative either.

Keep up the reporting in this Journal Denied. I don’t spend a whole lot of time in Journals, except a few of my favorites.

I’m really enjoying this one.

Send me a ticket about your PayPal issue. After all I am connected! :cool:

Here’s the thing you have to remember about the wife and pheromones. First off you have been married for how long and known her over how long total? She is so used to who you are without any pheromone enhancements that no matter how much you apply she is still going to just ignore it or its not going to register.

I cringe when guys say I’m upping the dosage because my wife of 1000 years didn’t get turned on by the Turn Up The Heat tonight. Tomorrow I go with 1000 mcg! YIKES :open_mouth:.

I know its against everyones conventional wisdom, but you need to go very, very slow in incremental increases or you will never get good results. Start with one drop every third day for like 2 weeks. Up that to every other day for another good solid week. Then take a good week off. Then come back and up it to three drops (sprays or whatever, you get my point) every other day for a week.

When your fellow forum members talk about congruency, your wife is so used to your natural pheromone signature no spray is going to change that over night or even over a week. But you see it’s not just that, you also have to be congruent with what you are wearing and not just act it, but become it.

I mean your wearing TUTH and IFM with P83 and you’re expecting something. Since when can you throw on cologne and expect your wife to jump you on the sofa? It’s obvious that it does not happen, and that is not a dig on you, but you wouldn’t be here, like the rest of us!

First off you shouldn’t be wearing this stuff all together unless you can tell me exactly how your wife reacts to each molecule and at what dosage. I’m guessing if your like “most” users, you don’t have any idea. Again this is not an attack on you at all. I genuinely want to help you here and I’m afraid you are being influenced by silly new comers who profess to be experts without a clue as to what work and how. I like your posts and as a very good judge of character believe you have a lot to offer.

So lets take TUTH as our first example: If you follow my usage example it will greatly increase your chances of neuro-influencing your wife and sparking some chemistry of your own. Now that you got the dosage down you start doing things that would naturally increase your -None production.

Heck you don’t even have to do it, you could just say you did it. “Hun after work, I’m going to go lift some weights with the boys.” Hun, I scared the crap out of this punk-ass motorcycle gang bothering a kid. I went right up to them and faced off with twelve of them. When they saw I was ready to throw-down and fight to the death they backed right down. It’s a good thing too or I would’ve needed bail money for killing all of them."

I think you get the picture.

IFM same thing. What makes your wife comfortable? I know my girlfriend Lori, who is back in town loves a neck rub. Makes her want to get “close and intimate.” Whenever you do one of those things for your wife that she loves and makes her cuddly anchor it to the IFM.

P83: Romantic, flirty and sensual. Better wear it and anchor it.

This my friend is congruency. This my friend will anchor the feelings the pheromones are having on her (and they are affecting her whether you see it or not) to each molecule. This is why you cant wear three at once with no anchor or no reason why anything should be different from yesterday.

Then again you’re wearing P83 with -None and I am really interested to see how that works out for you. To me it always seemed like they canceled themselves out. TUTH: raw aggressive sex. P83 sensual, caring, flirty love.

I will be happy to help you in any way. Good luck my friend and I expect you to name your next baby after me. My real given name is JunkyFungus.:smiley:

Hey JunkyFungus :smiley:
Thanks for visiting my Journal. I did´t expect it. Really. I was thinking about my Journal as my little cave here. After all im very new here. I have in fact no clue about Pheromones and how they work. But i know they do.
I got self effects from all i tried. Most from A314.

So i was thinking:" hey they work on me! So why don´t they work on my wife" Probably becourse i know what im wearing. Then i tested it and was disappointed :slight_smile: Well.

It is so different. I can see A314 and Instant Honesty working almost everday at work. But mostly with People who don´t know me well. I was probably expecting the same with my wife.

Thank you very much for that little lesson.I feel a bit better now. So thanks for grounding. (getting my feet back on the ground)

Ill send u a ticket with that paypal issue..

I start with P83. Only P83, no -none, no IFM noch Shine. Pure P83
I´ll start with one Spray 15 mcg. Its Sunday and i will spread one spray between my wrists. My plan is staying with that one spry till sunday next week. I will keep on my work mix, but after that is applyed in the morning and the p83 is applyed in the evening that should be ok.?!

I start with p83 becourse i feel flirty today.

15 mcgs of P83 may not be enough. Most of us will find the P83 to work at ratios above 25 so you mght start with two. Two sprays and with P83 you can get away with wearing it every day, but don’t exceed 2 sprays for the first week. -None is heavy and sticky, P83 is much more fun, IMHO.

Also try and wear it when things would naturally become flirty with the wife. Maybe romancing her at dinner, at the movies, at home giving her a little rub. Remember its about congruency.

Man cave huh? I broke in and stole the beer. Muhahahaaha

My cave is always open for you Steve :slight_smile:
But if you steal my good german beer again, i´ll install a booby trapped security vault bunker door. :smiley:

Here my Thoughts About AMMUNITION
I´ve tested Ammo a little but only on recommanded doses.
Allways 1 Spray spreaded between the wrists and one Spray on chest or neck…

I´ll allways have funny self effects. I feel like Tom Cruise in Topgun. I have an itch to drive faster and more risky. Found myself with 220km/h (in Germany you can drive that fast legaly :stuck_out_tongue: ) while my radio played Poison (Alice Cooper)..

Not that you think i´ll do that every time. But in fact Ammo makes me feel like im in Action. I´m getting used to that a little but it´s still kickin

So i call Ammo my Instant Maverick. It just fits.

Huh? Effect on others? Do not know. I didn´t care :smiley:
But i wasn´t jumped on by other females … wait wait…
My Sister jumped me and wouldn´t let me go until i tell her what scent i was wearing… but my sister doen´t count as a “hit”!
… By the way. I told her nautic competition.

… ha i searched the net and did´t find it. Probably becourse it is called NAUTICA Competition from NAUTIC**A

ADD:
**I ordered a custom Version becouse i constantly use 4 sprays now. And im stinking like “Cologne Man”. So i ordered a Ammo 2x with Game Scent.

I love the Game scent after i tried a full bottle of MX203.

I have to mention that i had more hits with MX203. It really is a blond girl magnet but it gives off a differnent vibe. More nice guy vibe. Ammo is rougher and more aggressive. I hope that the 2x Version with game scent suits me a little better.

**ADD:
**“constanly” was not really honest. Most of the time i used 2-3 Sprays and went good with it.
I have tried 3 days with 4 sprays and i clearly OD!:open_mouth:
Maybe it was the buildup on day 3 but it is way too much.

Hey there comes my … er… my wifes Instant Sexiness A with 5x cops in grapefruit. together with my Turn Up The Heat !

After all this is P83 Week, so … bye bye Turn Up The Heat. hidingTUTHdeepinthevault

…
…
alsohidingrestofbeerincaseStevoOcomesback

?
Im still a little unsure what to tell my wife about IS/a. It does not smell like perfume…
I´ll tell her i bought it becourse some freak told me that it is really sexy and i was believing him after he texted me 15 mins. I also bought a Product called Ammunition becourse i like the smell and the name of it. She won´t be too curious then. She will think that i only wanted to buy the ammunition thing becourse i like guns and i only bought her something so that i am not a selfish person :slight_smile:
hehe that will work…

First Report of Instant Sexyness A x5 copulins grapefruit scent
That worked. I was at home early and she was away with the kids. So i placed the Instant Sexyness bottle right in front of her perfumes (colognes …do not know which word is the right one in english)

After she came home i told her, that she got a little present from me in the mirror cabinet in the bathroom. I´m sorry, i wanted to get it till mothers day but it arrived today. She was happy and after she found it commended
that it doesn´t look like a perfume.

I said that the it was recommened to me in a cologne forum on the internet and maybe the company is new or its just their style. I like the blue bottles.

Then she saw the ammo bottle next to my aqua di gio. “Hey, looks like you bought yourself…readlable Ammunition? Hahaha very funny…”

We both sprayed our “new” colognes. Just one spray to check the scent.
I told her that i really like the grapefruit scent. But in fact i could smell somthing really bad in it. She took a big sniff on her wrist (she sprayed one spray there) and said that she thinks that there is something she don´t like.
:frowning:
After 15 min she sniffed again and said that the first strong grapefruit scent mostly faded and that she still can smell that “not so good scent”
:frowning:
Damnit. I promised her that i will contact the manufacturer :smiley: Hm. I asked her if she will use it and she said: sure, after all i like the grapefruit scent and im not wearing perfume every day so i guess i´ll use it sometimes.

I think it was the x5 copulins, but i have no idea.

I love the Instant Maverick name so if you remind me via PM, since I’m tired and will forget I’ll be sending you a $20 Gift Certificate for originality. It really rocks dude.

I wasn’t stealing no German beer unless it was Christian Henninger and we both no you probably don’t drink that. I loved it when I lived in Frankfurt though as it was my beer of choice. Nothing like a good Schnitzel and beer. Of course now if you had some Belgium beer it would have all been gone and booby trap or no booby trap I still would have gotten to it.

LOL I said Booby three times now!

Copulins can smell funky, but don’t focus on the scent. Make sure every time your wife wears it you act like an uncontrollable horny goat. Tell her how great she smells. Remember congruency. Every time she wears it compliment her on her appearance. Make her feel special. Anchor that smell to her turning you on.

Its a two way street and you have to make her not feel self-conscience about the funk of copulins by reassuring her.

Second Report of Instant Sexyness A x5 copulins grapefruit scent
I wanted to know if she will use it or if it will stand there in the cabinet for the next 5 years so i decided to tell her more of it…

I told her that i have asked the customer support and they told me that the smell is quite normal and that the product itself is more or lass not a perfume by its own. Its is an Addon. It should be used with her normal Perfume. It should give the wearer a really sexy feeling (and so on blabla) but i do not know if it works.

But i told her that the customer support will transfer the money back if she does not like the Product.

I thought about it as a 50% chance that she might tell me i should send it back.
She didn´t. In fact she told me that she will try it out, and she got that evil smile on her face.

Third and Last Report of Instant Sexyness A x5 copulins grapefruit scent
Ok. she tried it again yesterday. And she couldn´t stand the smell. She washed it away after 30min. I´m not too sad becourse there is really some horrible odor in it. Even playing “uncontrollable horny goat” did´t help :smiley:
So what to do with it now? Send it back? Shipping to US is expensive … Hma maybe sell it on ebay?
I dont know yet.
I am prettys sure she won´t use it any longer.

Report: The P83 testing Week
Ok im writing now, becourse i just have time today. I will test today and tomorrow too. Maybe i will not write the whole Report today. I will edit this post to show the whole Review in one post. So stay tuned.

Monday:

When i came home from work i sprayed 2 sprays of P83 to each side of the neck. It was a hot day but i think i startet to sweat a little bit more. Not too bad, but like drinking coffee.
She was in a good mood and we startet flirting a bit. Joking around. No more to report this day.

Thuesday:
I was in a bad mood so i started the day with Instant Shine. That is my method and it works fo rme. Maybe some kind of placebo but it like an good coffee in the morning. I waste that Shine in highspeed. Äh… right P83 week… I sprayed again 2 sprays of it when kids go to bed. We were having very good communication. Whole evening no tv. It wasn´t flirting. But it was what i usually would expect of Instant Honesty.
**
Wednsday:
My wife was out. Yoga. So i din´t spray any P83 around when nobody is at home.
I could not resist spraying just on 12,5mcg togo Turn Up The Heat on her pillow. I was asleep when she came home. Next Day she told me she had a nasty dream. Could that be true?
**
Thursday:

Again 2 x 15mcg P83 in the evening. Nothing happened for about a hour. Just normal every day stuff. But then i feet moody. Something angry and stressed for no cause. I washed the p83 away and sprayed IS . That worked as usual. 30min later i still felt a little weird but much better. 1h later and i was in good mood.

Friday:
No work today. Nice Family day. Was afrait to use p83 again. but did in the evening together bis 1 IS 2x. I changed the application point to forarms instead of “back of neck”.
Today she was in a flirty mood but we talked a lot of shit so i think p83 was working very subtle.

Saturday:
We were on a family celebration. Good chance to check Pheros on people who do not know me. I sprayed 3 Sprays of Ammo together with my Aqua di Gio. I know. That is a lot, but remember im 30 and Blood type A. And the meeting was about 3h later. I do not have a chance to reapply, ammo is just to obvisious.

I decided to add tha 2 Spray P83 every 3-4h the whole day. I did.

It was a very nice family party. With lots of grandmas and grandpas… I decided to get out of their nose Range… :smiley:
In fact i had very good communication and even a few IOIs. My wife even boxed me in the side, becourse she thought there was a girl flirting with me. i did not notice. I thought i was just normal talk.

so now we finally got home. She is relaxing, watching tv. i went to to the bedroom and sprayed that 1 spray Turn Up The Heat on her pillow again.

Sunday:
no Pheromones used… it was my day off

Conclusion:

I tried mostly P83 this week and i tryed to anchor it. I think it does something for me. But i cannot figure it out. Most of the time while wearing it i was communicative. I just wanted to talk. I did not get any specific hits or super unusual things happened. But i did not expect them. Hey this is my first qonsequent week of testing a putative :slight_smile: So be happy to hear following anouncement.

ON MONDAY I WILL START MY MARTIAL ARTS EDUCATION. :smiley:
THIS WILL BE THE Turn Up The Heat Testing week. Stay tuned