Inspired by Nunya’s post, what pheromones or pheromone combinations do you use to encourage “nesting” behavior with your mate? I know we’ve got the nols and Instant Honesty to support openness/sharing, but I would imagine that the desire to “nest,” to bond yourself to a certain individual and get to the business of building a life with them (even if it’s just for a weekend) is chemically inspired.I have noticed that cops makes men very deferntial to me. They are polite, courteous, gentlemanly. TAH makes my BF (and me) a little sleepy.
What do you use to encourage bonding, heart to heart connection, to open yourself and your beloved to a deeper, more connected way of relating to one another? This can be sexual or non-sexual; both are necessary to create a deep bond.
i don’t know - i’m only speaking from my 2 latest experiences. The first guy, whilst mutal respect, and a certain attentiveness had already been inspired pre-phero use -a combo of nols and edge gel, and basically arousing the hell out of him, is what got him wanting to cuddle and always be around me, and act boyfriend-like. But the boyfriend like part was more like the folks you see draped all over each other at the park.
With my more long-term guy it’s apparently the TAL.
I wouldn’t say the TAL inspires arousal in him so much - well i guess it does, but not so much raw sexuality, as mind-blowing OMG you are my DREAMGIRL!!, arousal.
In both my cases - obviously it’s arousal, combined with previous feelings (both these guys had crushes on me when they were young, like early 20s - but it was the untouchable, unattainable kind of crush), that turned things up a notch - so i can’t speak for more long-term truly committed situations.
Hmmmm… I would personally try a large amount of Beta Nol or Instant Honesty, with a lesser amount of Alpha Nol applied. MX136(Liquid Sunshine) seems to be fantastic for domestic bonding. You might want to experiment with that one. And let’s not forget Instant shine, just so he feels good around you.
A big zap of Oxytocin up his nose might do the trick. There is a product called Liquid Trust with Oxytocin as the active ingredient. Mist Oxytocin constantly through the ventilation system. I bet he’ll start naming your unborn children and help you shop for shoes…
I have a 10mcg bottle of Beta-Androstenol in my mailbox at the moment. I’ve been itching to try the stuff straight, as opposed to using Instant Honesty (which I’m almost running out of!)
There are too many Adrotics products I want to try next! Beta-androstenol’s been on my list for a while. I got IS/b which is on it’s way to me (can’t wait til it arrives!) and I ordered Cleo betanol version (which thus far has been a dud), but I’m interested in straight betanol as well.
Also that Liquid Trust with oxytocin sounds interesting! Oxytocin’s what humans release after sex (and nursing mothers) to encourage bonding, right, so why not?! Hmmmmm pump it into ventilation system…I like that idea.
Someone has been calling P74 a “boyfriend” pheromone, in terms of a man wearing it and it’s effect on a woman, and creating a “desire to hang out with them” feeling (I think). Not sure if the reverse would be true, eg a woman wearing it and having that effect on a man. I don’t think it was gender specific but sort of universal, but again… it IS a test mix too so details are still probably being analyzed. (That “someone” may have been Jasmin but I don’t recall.)
Not sure if this is true or not. I just got some P74 in my last order and have only given it one test wearing around a target (wore it once as a self-test as well in case of adverse reactions). Will be testing further as opportunities arise.
i know for women that androsterone encourages bonding with your guy, but for getting him to bond with you?
i dont know.
i also heard on this forum that wearing instant gentleman (rone) the wearer feels the part as well, which then would be helpful.
this is on my next order.
I enthusiastically second Rbt’s suggestion of P74 and would also suggest EST. 74 goes with everything and seems to help reconcile components that would otherwise pull in different directions.
A smidge of TAK might prove helpful in dampening anxiety/making each of you feel utterly comfortable with each other.
P86 might help loosen up conversation if one or both of you is a bit reticent.
I don’t yet understand the nuances of the Chemical Romance series (from memory the mixes around the 150 mark), but they certainly seem to be creating some kind of a bonding effect for me - as well as smelling delicious.
Wrt nesting I guess there is the cuddly, staying at home swaddled in cotton wool pole and there is the go out and forage for food and nesting materials pole. I think everything I have mentioned is more of the former pole - perhaps MeoEST, TAF, Safari might help encourage the latter. I’m not sure.
That reminds me… I do have a bottle of MeoEST that I haven’t quite gotten around to playing with yet…
Not sure if we ever decided what it does, other than stimulate house cleaning frenzies. Although I did try to spray it around one particularly messy individual it didn’t seem to get anything straightend out or cleaned… but she’s a tough case and maybe requires a mega-dose
I think Ail once said that MeoEST wasn’t very cuddly. I don’t know what it IS, exactly, but I would think that something not-so-cuddly wouldn’t be great for encouraging intimacy.
I’d stick with EST. And, like everything else, I also recommend B-nol, but that’s been said.