My name is Chris, I’m 33 years old and in Louisville, Ky.
I’m a musician (vocalist specifically), who has been involved off and on with the PUA community for years - recently getting back into it.
I’m definately the uber skeptic, but it seems fairly logical that considering humans are animals (albeit highly advanced,) we’d still work on the same basis when it comes to pheremones, just as well as the primal-esque ‘social proofing’, Posturing, etc that we use in the PUA community works wonders.
Are there any of you all that have tried mixing the PUA stuff with pheremones as an augmentation? And what have your results been?
I’m mainly interested in this stuff not only for dating experimentation, but also as a musician and someone interested in research. It sounds like an exciting form of experimenting!
My style tends to be between Xuma and Dave D’s, A lot of cocky funny with natural posturing and a lot of funny word twisting
My only problem tends to be the approach…as I’m new to dating and the nightlife scene again, sometimes I rock out (and when that happens it’s fantastic,) but other times I’m striking out completely. It’s a bit inconsistant, but then again I may be having some approach anxiety due to how long it’s been since I’ve put the PUA stuff into action.
What would pheremone recommendations be for someone of my age/personality/etc?
I’ve never been into the PUA stuff but there are plenty here who are. If you use the search you’ll find some information but asking a question often gets a quick answer too.
For anxiety I’ve found IG excellent. It’s unfair when people say it’s a “younger brother” of A314. For me A314 is “the boss” where IG is the charismatic guy people want to know. Both can generate awe but in very different ways. You might also want to give IO a go but I’ve found IH better for bonding. IG + IH + IS is one of my favourite combos. In life I’m the fun dependable guy people can trust -that combo acts like a fast-forward for people I’ve just met realising that. This is where congruence comes in.
Ammo a lot of people like too. This is designed for attraction.
Whatever you choose make sure you report back so we can all learn from you too. And make sure your actions are congruent (as above) with whatever phero signature you are giving out. Don’t think PUA is the be-all and end-all either and don’t stress about a lack of practice. People get too hung up on methods and theories - just be yourself. The word personality comes from the Greek for “mask” - so see yourself as you want others to see you and act the part. With practice you become who you act as
Ammo and Instant Shine make great starters for new users. They are both great on their own and they make a terrific combo.
For cocky funny, you might want to look at Instant Jerk.
Approach Anxiety is hard to get over. IH + IO should help with getting the talking going, those two together will give you the same stuff that’s in CTTM2.
A314 seems to have a filtering effect, you end up with women at the higher end of the scale being interested in you.
Good luck and let us know how -mones help your pick up game.
Hmm… it sounds like a314 is similar to the concept of throwing a lot of negs and insta-shittest-busting with hb8, hb9, and hb10’s… I know from experience that going ‘too alpha’ against the ldv girls seems to actually run them off because it kills their esteem. Am I interpreting A314 right?
It would theoretically scare away the above average gals but reel in the smokin hot babes?
Sounds like something that’d work well for job interviews, to be honest
congruence is important. when u wear A314, you have to act alpha;when you have io on, you have to act open and chill; when you have on ammo, you have to act social, sexy and fun. IF you do that, mones work even better
Hmm. I’ve seen that instant shine + ammo seems to be a hit combo, but what would happen with instant open + ammo? It seems that those two would mesh pretty well, especially with the darn approach anxiety resurfacing with me being out of the social scene for so long? O_O
Ammo + IO would make you sexy, fun and approachable.
Ammo + IS is more of sexy, charismatic and charming.
in my opinion, ammo + IO is more inviting and easier for girls to open up.
If u’re shy get some IO with ammo. Better yet, get ammo , is, and io and use them all.
2x ammo + 2x IS + 2x IO… sexy, fun, charismatic, yet open and approachable. Yea, purchase all three. Also, look into IG to get the charsimatic warmth for daytime use. have fun and report back.
If you are short on cash, i would go with ammo , is, and io… if you have a little more money i would also get ig and ih
I elected to go with Ammo + IO, with the returning approach anxiety it may make things easier… plus as the typical singer type I’m more of the ‘fun’ and silly type when I go out as opposed to charming…I decided to order the Ammo and IO to try out, I woulda got some IS too just to experiment, but I guess that’ll have to wait til another paycheck (Darn economy!)
Since questions seem to be flowing out of me tonight, what’s the proper way to wear the two together? Are they worn over each other on the wrists and neck? Or side by side? I got the travel bottles.
As far as cologne, I normally wear Drakkar Noir on the ‘darker’ side, or A&F Fierce for a ‘brighter’ cologne.
Hi Chris! Yup, a good combo for what you want to accomplish!
Yeah, the economy is sucking a bit more lately!
For the ‘proper’ way to wear the mones, basically, you can layer them over each other on your skin. Pulse points are also good, neck and wrists. Think of your body as the canvas and the mones the colored paints!
Beside these points, I also spray my mones in my hair!
You can always apply them, let them dry up a bit, then apply the Drakkar or Fierce over top of them. Colognes don’t normally interfere with the mones. AMMO and the Instant Line like IO, have a scent to them, but, in my opinion, are somewhat muted compared to your Drakkar, for example.
Here’s a question for ya… since I do a lot of cocky/funny, push/pull, teasing, word twisting, etc, would the instant jerk help out with that?
Or for instance, what would IJ + IO + IS do?
Yep, I’m full of questions… this side of the seduction/lifestyle enhancement community is totally new to me, so I’m eager to experiment with PUA + Mones!
And my Ammo + IO should get here tomorrow…let the journal begin!
You have come to the right place and the more time you spend reading the stickys in the men’s section and being the men section you will realize that.
I see you already started doing your research and I think you will come up with the perfect products to buy first.
Remember that before you start mixing and matching you got to use these products separately to get a good idea of what each do for you alone.
A314 is a product most guys on this forum own but not all got is on their first order.
More reading and getting use to products like Ammunition, instant shine and instant gentleman will be better and when you feel ready you can buy the A314 and start using it like pro since you already comfortable with pheromones.
Definately going to after I find out how this works… I got:
Ammo 1x,
IO 2x,
and TUTH 2.5X
From FEDEX this morning..
(pretty good as I only ordered IO 1x and Ammo 1x…damn, Androtics needs to give Wal Mart and Best Buy some advice on running a business and doing customer service! xD)
My blood type is either O+ or AB+, cant remember which, albeit I’m pretty sure it’s O+.
Any ideas on how TUTH would affect the combination of IO & Ammo, and what the general ratios are?
I know that people generally say to start out with just one at a time, but as my first test, I’m kinda wanting to mix and match tonight just to randomly see what happens.
