Hey guys, first and foremost I’d like to say I’m a bit skeptical to start off with but after the gift cert offer plus positive review from one of my close friends, hell, try anything at least once, right? I’ve known about pheromones and their importance to biology for quite some time, but as mentioned I am obviously somewhat skeptical about the success of humans in their deliberate usage.
I’m in my late 20’s, male, professional career. Originally from NY but travel constantly due to work. I typically work long weeks, 65 hours not including travel, so my lifestyle is quite hectic. I would consider myself an amicable person and of above average attractiveness. I’ve never in the past had problems with women but my current lifestyle has really put a hamper on things.
One thing I hope pheromones will be able to help me with is facilitating the process involved with meeting and starting relationships with others. I want to “kick start” or have an edge in my new encounters so it will increase the likelihood of something actually happening.
I’m mostly interested in Alpha A314 and TUTH/Ammunition to start, and if I’m pleased with the results well there would obviously be no reason not to keep using it!
A314 & IH for work. A314 will give you the alpha guy in charge vibe and the IH will help make people trust and feel connected to you.
Ammo & A314 for evening wear. You will be the sexy alpha leader guy that the women will want to meet and reel in. Of course you let yourself get reeled in only as far as you want to go.
Throwing in IH into the evening mix will only help.
TUTH can be a little tricky. It is meant to do just that - help steer something that is already heated up. A lot of guys try that as an opening gambit in a club but that would not be my recommendation.
Hey Herro, welcome to Pherotalk. This is without a doubt the best community for pheromone discussion and AD has the the best products IMO. I was skeptical like yourself at first, I spent countless hours reading before I ordered and the $25 GC helped nudge me towards my first purchase here.
A314 is something I’m pretty new with using, but my early results are very promising. In work situations, it is certainly the top choice. Since I’ve been testing it, I’m definitely noticing that I seem to get more respect from people. I have the togo spray bottle, but I’m going to be getting the oil based version with my next order.
I would highly recommend starting out with Ammo and IS to begin, that’s what I started out with and had amazing results from the start. IO or IH are also great socials that go well with that combo. TUTH is a very sexual mone and can turn some women away. I have however had some very good results with Latina women while using it.
Keep reading here and do your homework. The search function here is a great tool to find the information you need. If you can’t find it, just ask, the members here are unbelievable in their willingness to help new members. Good luck and welcome again.
What are the main differences/effects of AMMO and TUTH (from personal experience)? I think I read somewhere they have similar mone composition but in different concentrations?
Thank you for the suggestion regarding work but that is not really my primary concern, I am mostly interested in relationships with the opposite sex in a non-work environment. Maybe if I wasn’t great what I do I wouldn’t have to work so much.
Since I am kind of skeptical I wanted to try one of the more ‘noticeable’ products first, such as TUTH or AMMO. A314 seems great but from what I’ve read it takes a little bit of experimenting with the dosages or in some cases a few weeks to get results, and in some cases the results from A314 have been described as “subtle” although “noticeable” which I find is kind of contradictory. If I’m able to try a product and get overt results, I would have no problems adding A314 to a regimen.
Initially I was thinking of getting one of the TUTH bigger spray bottles, but maybe I should get one ‘to-go’ size of both TUTH and AMMO?
If you are just going to get one 30ml bottle (by far best value) get Ammo.
TUTH isn’t a stronger version of Ammo it is a different mix and portrays a totally different vibe.
For an initial meeting in most environments Ammo will attract females far better.
TUTH is a bit too full on & will actually scare a lot of people off. By the timt TUTH is appropriate you’ve probably already got them in the bag, so unless you are going to crazy free love 60s college parties (& I hope you are), get Ammo.
Ammo is a fantastic female attractant, but is well balanced enough to wear during the day or at night.
The main difference is that Ammo is a mix of equal amounts Androstenone, Androstenol and Androsterone - This provides an all-round set of sexy, social and masculine influences.
TUTH is virtually all Androstenone, with a tiny amount of steering molecules to emphasise its very sexual properties. Otherwise, both products contain exactly the same amount of Androstenone - Approx 2.5mcg per spray in standard form
So broadly, Ammo is that interesting, fun and sexy guy, who engages a womans feelings on all levels and might be worth getting to know better no matter where you meet them, whilst TUTH is the bloke who is horny as hell and, looking for sex right now.
I’ll leave it up to you to decide what might be better for meeting someone with a relationship in mind or for a quick n’dirty shag.
Saying that, TUTH can be moderated by socials to make it a bit more acceptable/usable in clubs etc (don’t wear it to work!) and in conjunction with A314, it can steer the strong, capable, mature and high-status vibe into very sexual territory with strong LTR qualities for more mature women - Generally well into their 30s and older but you can get the odd exception at any age.
Which one do you think would yield more ‘dramatic’ or ‘observable’ results? Or do you think it’s best to just test out both to start? I don’t see myself using them every day so it should last a long time regardless!
What about using both? Or since they are too similar in composition would it mess it their individual effects?
TUTH on its own would probably give the most dramatic results but they are quite likely to be all the bad ones - Being ghosted/avoided, taken as creepy or having guys get stroppy with you.
Ammo is smoother/more subtle and it may not be until you realise you are having your umpteenth brilliant night in a row that it suddenly becomes obvious why.
TBH, Instant Shine and IO are two products that often give obvious and nearly all positive effects - Although when someone sits you down and proceeds to talk drivel for ages, you may think otherwise!
Using both TUTH and Ammo together - Yes you can, perfectly viable at your age - that would give you double the none proportion and sexual steering but still retain some balancing from the other components in Ammo. Best way to work that one is to start the night with just Ammo and transition to a more sexually overt mix when you hit a pub/party.
However, it would be best if you found your sweet spot with the Ammo at least to begin with. Then you would know how much TUTH to swap-out for but this depends on the ages of the people you are interested in - if they are younger (mid 20s and below) they might respond a lot better to an Ammo/IS or other more social signature instead of overt none. The reason is that none response changes with age - Younger generally responds better to less none, whilst older can tolerate more and more overt mixes. Mid 20s is a common age to notice this change.
Thanks again mobocaster. What about in the case of someone you’re already familiar with (such as rekindling and old fling or someone that knows you/you’ve slept with before)? Since mutual attraction/affection is already there, would TUTH “seal the deal and cut to the chase”? I reckon the negative effects of TUTH would be less likely with someone you know rather than a total stranger?
If so, you may need to go easy on the TUTH, unless you are around older women - Very overt none is not always a good thing around late teens/early 20s. They get more comfortable with its sexually overt signals as they age.
It depends a lot on how much rekindling you need to do. TUTH can be useful but to begin with, a lighter less overt sig, with something like IH to help closeness and bonding again might be better initally, some IS will also help steer things into happy territory. Then introduce the TUTH as things get more sexual. Too much TUTH too soon will send a very clear signal you just want sex now - which may or may not be what she is after.
IG (lighter/younger) or A314 (older/more mature) are also very useful here - they will both signal increased status and other good relationship qualities, which can be every bit as important for full-on attraction as none.
