Hey everyone.
Let’s start off with the basics about me:
I’m male, 27, white, 5’9, medium/slender build (I have been busy and lazy about working out lately, so hopefully I can bulk back up to 175+ pounds soon). I’m from British Columbia in Canada, and that means the shipping rates are going to add up over multiple orders, assuming I get positive results on my first order
In addition, I’m reasonable good-looking, despite my constant “You must improve your appearance” self talk, due to in my past not really being attractive much at all.
Now let’s go over my history, how I came across pheromones, and such like that:
Throughout my teen years and high-school, I was a total girl-less loser. It sucked. Granted I was a late bloomer. I didn’t really have that “I gotta get girls” mentality until later on. In high school I would find myself fall for a certain girl, get one-i-tis, and really block out any other girls that I could potentially have interest in. That was my mentality. After high school, one day I just said to myself, “Man… I GOTTA start getting some girls. I literally have NO girl friends.” So it became my goal. I was semi-successful. I could pull off random hook-ups and stuff. I used online dating as a way to get going, and it’s become a big part of my game now.
Years later, probably around age 23, I came across David Deangelo and Double Your Dating. That got me into the seduction/PUA knowledge. Over time, I gained a vast amount of PUA/seduction knowledge, reading tons of Ebooks, watching tons of videos, listening to lots of audio, and joining forums, etc. I have become quite a PUA/seducer, selectively though, as I really don’t have enormous amounts of time to spend just trying to pick up girls right now. I also go to university and I’m a straight A student. My education and goals are extremely important to me. I put 100% into everything I strive to achieve in. With that, you can see where my lack of spare time is.
What got me to pheromones is curiosity. In PUA material over time, I’ve seen it mentioned, but discredited. So immediately upon surface level research, it seemed to be on the same level, as stated in here in one of Steve’s posts, snail-oil. I was equating pheromones on the same level as penis enlargement pills. Lots of praise, yet no research, and lots of deception.
My philosophy is to always look to improve. That’s why I continue with learning PUA/seduction, and that’s why I’m here. If pheromones can improve myself with my goals (which will be discussed later), then that’s an improvement I want to include.
Anyway, I got curious on pheromones again, so I googled it and researched my heart out. Lots of the information came from reviewers that obviously worked for a company, or got kickbacks for referrals. So I couldn’t trust them. Luckily I came across this forum. After seeing how many users are on here, it became obvious that this forum is filled with legitimate users. I’ve read a TON of SteveO’s sticky posts. So I feel I have a good grasp of the basic knowledge of pheromones, and I believe fully that this stuff will work (due to the amount of people on here saying it works, and due to the effort people like SteveO put in their posts).
Okay, I think I’ve covered everything above. Now on to my goals and why I’m here:
My goals with pheromones, attract women, seduce women, have sex with women. I want woman sexually attracted to me. I want them to WANT to have me. That they believe they NEED to have me. That’s what I want. Obviously, I am open to other suggestions of what pheromones can do for me in a positive light (as I’ve heard some people say “use this for work and people will be much more positive toward you”, yet I haven’t looked into that). Ultimately, I think my goals are very much the same as why everyone else is here.
So there’s my introduction. Below I’ll go into some stuff going through my mind after reading all this stuff, as well as some questions. I know I’ll have subsequent questions, as I had a lot going through my head while reading that I’ll probably forget to include here.
I’ve seen a lot of mixing, or combining, or spraying yourself with multiple types of pheromones, which I’m still not certain about. At best, it seems as though spraying yourself with different pheromones combines the effects of each type of pheromone used. With this, it also seems to me that you need to spray each one in a different spot, so as to not mix the actual sprays over top of each other?? Or can they all be sprayed right on top of each other?
I also saw a lot about this -none- thing mentioned. I believe it was stated that this -none- thing could cause extreme anger/avoidance in other people toward you if you use too much of it. I have not checked out the actual sales page with much time yet, but is it clearly stated which products contain -none-? I believe SteveO’s post somewhere said that Ammo and TUTH contain none, while the more “social” pheromones do not. Is this also why it is recommended to use the regular strength for -none- containing products?
I should also state that I am not intersted in experimenting. I am only interested in the “proven” products. I believe this is what SteveO called “Consumer” products vs the MX products that are more of an experimental mix, is that correct? My reason is because like I said, I don’t have time to experiment. I’d rather just take what works, or what is believed to work, and go with it.
Another question: When wearing pheromones in a classroom, or maybe some other setting where there are many people, I wonder if women, when they get the scent, just “know” which man it’s coming from and therefore attracted to, or whether they need to kind of figure it out. For example, let’s say there’s a crowded group, you got the mones on, she can smell it, but doesn’t know which guy it’s coming from. How will she go about it? Will she just “know”? Will she just randomly attribute it to a guy at random that she finds most attractive otherwise, or what? Obviously I know it’s just like cologne/perfume, and that if she spends any time talking to everyone she’ll figure out who is wearing it eventually. Just a strange scenario I was thinking.
With that, I’ve looked over the spray pheromones on the sales page for men. As I see it, each one of them seems so valuable. I just think to myself, I have to have them all. But I also realize that maybe this doesn’t work. So, my question is which ones should I start out with? One in particular? A couple that combined should give me enough proof that they work? Obviously if I’m convinced that these work, I’m going to buy every one of the consumer ones. But for the time being, I need to be assured that they will work for me before I drop that kind of money. And obviously, I will start out with the To-Go bottles.
If I had to pick right now, I’d think that starting out with Ammunition (as this seems to be the recommended starter), combined with Instant Openness. What I hope to achieve is have women start conversation with me (IO), followed by finding themselves sexually attracted to me as well. Not because I’m too shy or nervous to strike up conversation with women, but because I want to actually notice results from the mones, not from what I’m doing.
Anyway, this seems to be getting really long. If you need anymore information, feel free to let me know. I’m dying to try these things out.
EDIT:
One thing I should mention. While it’s summer holidays for us university students, I work at a convenience store. So I come across about 200 different people per day. Every day I come across at least a few attractive girls that come through, as well as obviously many other non attractive and older women (middle aged) too. I think this puts me in a great place to try this stuff out. Obviously being the cashier and only person working there during my shift each person HAS to talk to me, but IO should make them MORE chatty than they otherwise would have been? Would it make them more likely to try to strike up small talk with me in hopes of it taking off? Will the AMMO come into play in this situation? No I don’t mean the girl rip my clothes off right there, but will it cause her, combined with the IO, to try HARDER to get my attention through conversation? Just a thought I had seeing as I’m in a position where I come into contact with so many people at my work, I thought it would be a great way to experiment in order to find out if the results are real.