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Hello everybody,

My name is David. I am a 20-year-old male from Mississippi. I am a junior at Mississippi State University. I like classical and alternative rock music. I like to play the guitar, and I’m a big fan of t-shirts and blue jeans. I play the guitar (very casually, I’m not incompetent but definitely not overly talented by any means). I would describe myself as a rocker. I wear band t-shirts often, I wear aviator’s-style sunglasses religiously, and I have a van-dyke facial hair style (google it, it’s basically a goatee with a mustache). I am an avid Christian (I’m unusual in the sense that if you don’t judge me I won’t judge you). I do not drink, do recreational drugs, or have premarital sex. I am a virgin. I believe in saving that part of myself for my future wife (in no way at all am I being condescending to those who are sexually active, I respect your personal choices, respect mine in turn).

I’m definitely a southerner (sweet tea for the win), but I lack the typical southern accent and am more of an intellectual type in many ways. That being said, I have some very masculine traits, i.e. very territorial when I’m in a relationship, I like to box, I love shooting guns, I hunt when the opportunity arises, and I like sports cars (Corvettes especially). On the other side of the coin, however, I appreciate culture and class. I’ve traveled to 8 different countries, I like pictures of the natural beauty of the world such as the Swiss Alps, sunsets, etc. I like helping people with their problems when I can. I try to be a friendly person. If someone isn’t displaying douche-baggishness or blatant stupidity I try to be kind and patient with them.

As for my physical qualities, the most obvious one would be my height. I am 6 foot 5 inches tall (hence the username Goliath). I weigh roughly 160 pounds, so I am on the thin side considering my height, but I have a very lean physique, so I don’t look unhealthy, but I’m not overly muscular either. I have dark brown hair, and medium blue eyes. My skin tone would be described as light, but not pale. I have size 13 feet. Females rate me as an 8 on an attractiveness scale of 1-10. Essentially, I have a very large physical presence, but that is offset by me being skinny. I also suspect I have a high testosterone level because I have lots of body hair: a hairy chest, my facial hair grows quickly, my shoulders are hairy strangely enough, but I trim that. I also have a very high libido, which is normal for a 20 year old male, but I suspect mine is higher. In addition to that, I am a very aggressive male and am short-tempered when I don’t monitor myself.

I am new to the world of pheromones and have great hopes that they will improve the quality of my social and dating interactions. I learned about them online one day. I don’t know much about them, but I am familiar with the basic concepts of things like overdosing on androstenone, the difference between social and sexual pheromones, and so on. I realize that I have much to learn about pheromones and their proper usage, and I am eager to attain that knowledge and understanding so I can apply it to my everyday life.

I don’t have a difficult time making friends, many people like me, but I do have a hard time attracting women I’m interested in dating. I get nervous about approaching and talking to women with whom I’m interested, but if they are making conversation with me then I can keep one going generally. My female friends are very fond of me because I’m a very good listener, and I have a sense of humor, but it’s more of the dry humor type. I am a bit of a nice guy, unfortunately, but I don’t let women push me around. I do have a spine, and I don’t tolerate disrespect from women. I have been described as “overbearing” by some, and I get jealous easily.

I hope that pheromones will help me to be seen as more attractive to females and will help me to command respect from both males and females alike. I hope that I can use them to improve my confidence, ease with which I flirt with women, and overall appeal. Since I’m the long-term relationship kind of guy, I’m not looking to get laid. I hope pheromones can help me improve myself into a version who is very successful with women while not compromising my values and my identity.

Sorry for the long-winded post. I look forward to being a part of this community.

Goliath

Advise Please
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Hi David - Welcome to Pherotalk. :slight_smile:

This is an interesting OP - And in many ways a challenging one as whilst some of your goals are common with the rest of us, others seem to be from a very different standpoint.

All respect is due to you for having your own principles and standing for them - That is an important alpha trait in itself. :slight_smile:

From my take on your OP, the pheros you might find most interesting are Instant Shine, IG, IO and maybe Ammo. I say maybe because its confidence-boosting aspects are good but its sexuality may go against the image you are trying to project. And if you send a sexual signal to a woman then fail to follow it up or support it with appropriately attractive behaviour, she is very liable to lose interest and friendzone you fast. You are going to be walking a tightrope here.

However IS is also associated with a confidence boost and its happy/good to be around nature can offset the preception of you being overbearing. Which is also why I suggest IG over A314 - IG is a light suave/status product, whilst A314 can enhance a strong physical presence in a bad way. You need to be very congruent with it but work-wise, it is brilliant!

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Hi there David, welcome to PTalk.com!

Thats a very detailed intro, not to hard to read, you write very well.

From your post, you seem like you have a hard time with attraction, you might want to take a look at;

  1. Ammo - Good all rounder product
  2. IG - For that status and respect, charming
  3. Ishine - For that feel good vibe

you might want to read up on;
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003

Good resource to read up on your first time here.

Cheers!

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Thanks for replying. I know all too well of the dangers of the friendzone, and I avoid it like the plague. I am only interested in dating women with the same values that I have regarding intimacy, so women losing interest in me because I don’t make a move isn’t an issue (I’m not the type to shy away from kissing :wink:), but you are correct about acting appropriately attractive being a problem. I know the theory behind attraction very well (i.e. push-pull, using negs, etc.), but I have problems applying it consistently. With some women, such as my ex of 8 months, it comes natural, and I’m at the top of my game upon meeting, but most of the time that is not the case.

I am interested in Ammo. Based on what you know about me, do you think the androstenone in it would be too much? I sweat heavily when doing physical activities or in warm weather, so is it possible that my own androstenone production coupled with the boost from ammo would cause an overdose of it?

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Welcome David,

To answer your query about OD’ing, since you are 20 you really don’t need that much of any pheromone since your body is producing a good quantity right now.

Ammo is good for club and nightlife situations and it is well buffered. You can not OD when using Instant Shine or Instant Openness.

You may also want to read This: Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies

Good luck!

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I’m considering buying Instant Gentlemen and Ammo with my $25 gift card. If used in a small amount (1 spray Ammo with 1 or 2 spray(s) of Gentlemen and 1 or 2 spray(s) of Openness), do you think the alpha male/sexually appealing image projected by the Ammo would be toned down by the Gentlemen and Openness? Or do you think I would be better off buying Instant Honesty or Instant Shine in place of Ammo? Remember, I want to project an appealing/sexy alpha vibe, but will not act on the sexual part of it because of my stance on abstinence.

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Don’t go wild mixing yet. Instant Gentlemen will give you a nice alpha vibe. Try it solo first so you can see what it does. If you want you can try Instant Openness. Each of the consumer line products have a different effect.

Try each one solo first so you can understand the mix, then you can start mixing and matching

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I’m currently sweet spot testing with Openness. I like the results so far. I’ll definitely be getting Gentlemen with my gift card, but my question is whether you would recommend Ammo or Honesty for the other part of that order? I received an MX of TAA with my first order. The TAA doesn’t last very long on me, so I’m kind of leery about investing money in Shine, since that is the primary ingredient in it.

I know I’m not ready to begin mixing yet, I just asked because I’m thinking long-term. So…Ammo or Honesty? Thanks for any input.

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Welcome to pherotalk Goliath!

Ammo does give of a strong, masculine vibe but it is subtle enough to wear daily and to work so it needs no tuning down.

Products like A314 and tuth tend to give off strong vibes that need some toning down with the socials , most persons use shine.

I am not sure what vibe you would be giving of when you wear both IG and Ammo since they are both sexual attraction pheromones Ammo more than IG but they give off diff vibe.

When you don’t want to give of too much of a strong vibe you usually pair the products with a social not another product that gives similar effects.

The links will give you a great amount of insight as to what the products can do for you and after testing each by itself you can do your own experimenting by mixing.

Your gc was issued! :slight_smile:

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Thanks, the reason I ask is because I’m looking for a stand-alone everyday phero. Being a broke college kid, I can’t really buy several full-size bottles of pheros at once. Well I could, but then I’d have to eat Ramen noodles for a few weeks. :stuck_out_tongue:

I like the results I’ve gotten with IO so far. It seems to make others happy when I engage them with conversation. I tested it on a platonic friend of mine who I’ve known for a few years. She’s a great person, but she doesn’t smile often and is kind of cynical. She was having a bad day, so I talked to her a bit to observe the effects of IO. She was very chatty, and I even elicited a few smiles from her, which is definitely out of her character for the mood she was in. I will continue my testing.

I ordered a couple of other pheros with my gift card. I settled on trying Instant Gentleman and Instant Honesty. At some point I’ll probably try out Ammo, but for now I’m just sticking with the socials until I have more phero experience under my belt. I’m really interested in IG, as several people have pointed out, it might be the best fit for me given my situation. Thanks for all the input, I will post my results with the different pheros after I’ve done some testing.

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well, ive had great hits with ammo. not really sexy,maybe they were, but definitely hits! im 24, and i use ammo,tuth,andmx431. the mx is there, trust me. its designed to be stealthy. i would say the the tuth is what give the sexual vibe the most. but continue to try them out, as ive only been using these products about a week myself. ive used pheros before,but not like these! they really do work. keep searching throught the forum. i found a lot of great tips and other stories as well.