Hello all! Name is Dan. I’m new to the pheromone deal and I haven’t exactly bought any pheromone products yet. What probably spurred me to post a new thread is the $25 gift certificate, since I’m fairly interested and it looks like I’m going to be ordering more so in the future. I also have a question about combinations for my situation. Hopefully you will get back to me soon so that I can order my -pheromones.
I’m bi, had experience with girls, but never with any guys and I’m more than curious at this point. But, I’m not into guys that are overly flamboyant that they could be easily called out of the crowd as homosexuals. To be honest, that straight appeal but not so straight turns me on. Straight guys turns me on as well, clearly.
Lately, I’ve been into this guy that flirtatiously jokes back with me, but even with my gaydar, as well as a few others, the guy could not be pinned down as bi or straight but very playful. So… my question would be… does anyone have a good combination of -mones that would attract him if he was bi, or attract him if he was straight? Lol
I mean… he doesn’t seem like an alpha male, so I guess I want to hang with him more to get to know him, or just get him to tell me if he’s gay or not, but attract him at the same time, straight or gay.
Hey there, you should really check out Domnk’s journal. He’s been conducting a lot of tests lately that might interest you.
Generally, gay guys are attracted to many of the same things straight women are.
There’s also Mystery Boy, a product designed specifically for the gay crowd. It’s somewhat masculine, with a lot of socials, and a little bit of feminine pheromones.
Instant Shine is another really good choice. It makes everyone happy, and has a reputation for working really well for your sort of situation.
Haha… I’m checking out his journal now and reading his combinations. The thing is… there’s just so many that I really don’t know which combination to try out for the first time.
And his journal is so extensive as well. Hopefully I find something soon to attract the straight, but curious guys.
welcome to the forums.. it is possible to route him out, so to speak.
there is a special mix made called mystery boy(you’ve seen it on the main phero page) that is a unique mix of female and male pheros for doing this. there are also a few studies showing that gay and bisexual men will respond the same as women to male pheromones.
I am not bi nor gay, so take my advice with a grain of salt.
go masculine with Tuth, but also use Instant Openness on top of that. Too much of TUTH will be an irritant, and with heterosexual males, may actually put them on edge and defensive. IO isn’t for him(since he’s already a flirt) its for you, and will let you open up and chat with him(which may tell you what you need to know).
there are quite a few Bi/Gay people on here that may lead you in a better direction.
you may have to actually ask him, or study up on Body Language to see if there are any indicators of interest (IOI) while you are talking. once you get the hang of those. start testing out CTTM2, which adds a bit of depth to your communications. its in the same group as instant Openness. its still experimental, so.. reporting on it will definitely help the rest of us out. I am currently testing this one.
as always, test out one spray at a time and build up to find your sweet spot. too much will give you unfavored reactions, and too little wont do anything. it helps to understand the individual pheros first, before mixing, otherwise, your shooting blind.
the search button is your friend, and let us know about more particulars if we haven’t given enough advice
Yea, I’ve messaged Domnk and hopefully he gets back to me soon. And thanks for the feedback as well.
Sadly, I’m still not in the disposition I want to be in, not because you two were of no help. But now there’s just too many mones that I would like to experiment with. IS and IO seem pretty similar to me and I don’t know which would work better for my situation, since the feedback behind both of them were great.
Hmmm… how about this? What would work better with MB? And what would work better with Ammo? (I’ve read that TUTH is too much -none that I wouldn’t need, since I’m 20 and Ammo would be enough, is this right?)
My aim would be to actually have something going with this guy, if not, at least a fun night.
I’ve read responses about pheromones that put people in the feminine or masculine category on first encounters. alot of -nols(instant openness, instant shine, CTTM2, alphanol, betanol) do that when there are no -ones around(Instant Gentleman, Instant Jerk, TUTH, Xrone, Xnone)
are you trying to appeal to your feminine side to attract him, or appeal to his feminine side(if he has one) to see if he’s interested?
I try not to suggest any putatives, mx’s or experimones, since that kind of info isn’t readily understandable until you get a hang of the basic ones in the Instant line.
according to MadisonTate here on the forums, andy dose of Ammo/INstantJerk/androstanone can be buffered with enough instant shine and openness.
Hmmm… I’m not really sure if I’m appealing to one side or another. All I know is that we jokingly flirt with each other, knowing that I, for one, am interested. I just want to take it a little further without offending him if he doesn’t swing my way.
I wasn’t planning of going for the mutatives, mx’s or experimones until much later in the game. Also I really am not put the feminine category nor does he really have a big feminine personality. So… I don’t want combinative mones that would give pure -nols. But I don’t want just pure -nones also, since this seems too aggressive for my touch.
I really want to try the Mystery Boy. Right now… I’m thinking one of these combinations to start off my pheromones deal. Would you recommend MB with a combination of Ammo(will this entice him?), CTTM (will he just want to talk to me or open up as well?), Instant Shine (would I appeal to him more) , or IO (I’m not really a shy person, so would IS be better?)
I only mention feminine/masculine because that is how i wrap my mind around physical attraction.
pheros operate on a primitive human level, so by getting pheros that show a masculine similarity to him, you either make a buddy, or you trigger a bi/gay/female reaction where he feels a bit of physical attraction to you. at least that’s what I gather through the studies and responses here.
either way, just the right amount will keep you friendly, regardless of the questions.
one thing that Alphanols and IS will do is neutralize any bad comments should they come up, so you dont have to worry about insulting or freaking him out if you just flat out ask. communication pheros seem to keep communications open, regardless of what is said.
Awesome, thanks so much for your insight Centaur. As of now… I’m placing my order for MB, TUTH, and IS.
The TUTH, I’m hoping, might turn the guy on. If not… I’m bi, I’ll use it for the girls. And the IS has some good reporting, and apparently would be ideal for “my situation.” Hopefully all goes well and I’ll start a new thread on this pheromone trip.