New to the scene

Hi guys,

I’m pretty new to the “mones” scene, but have read up a good bit on the forums. I posted Studying abroad in Europe: first pheromone order to be more alpha, IG or A314? so i don’t want to floor the forums with the same stuff, but I’ll basically recap.

I’m a 5’9 white male, about 25 lbs overweight (but working on it). I am good at coming off as unassuming and therefore I think that people can be comfortable with me. However, I have trouble being the alpha guy in the group, and would really like to help that (so need to get a none?) Maybe a Nol for social would be cool too. I need to work on my inner self-esteem and confidence.

On my post, so far Stevios has answered me (and I really appreciate the helpful response from him). He suggested that I get Instant Gentleman (over A314) and Instant Shine and Instant Openeness. If you guys can also add some input that would be cool, as I can’t decide between any of this stuff and know virtually nothing about it which products are better than others.

I would like to keep it pretty simple on the amount that I get (and hopefully relatively cost effective if possible). Also, I am a big cologne aficionado, so the more unscented or easy to cover up, the better.

I really do appreciate the advice from you all.

Thanks guys!

Best,
Jon

P.S.: I am a 20 year old college male from the east coast. I am going to be in Italy for the next several months, so would really like to get into this stuff soon.

Welcome to the forum.

Stevios definitely knows what he’s talking about. A314 might create alittle more distance between you and the people you’re trying to attract. I usually apply A314 at work or when dating Alpha-girls.

IG has a great effect on confidence and is less intimidating than A314. Definitely recommend IG, IShine 2x, IO, and Ammo (when it’s back in stock). Ammo works well for nightlife and can be used as a standalone product.

Good luck in Italy man, hope this little bit of advice helps.

Good advice about A314. I have found that it has hindered me in some situations more than it has helped me. I definitely recommend IG. One of my favorite prodcuts.

I can back up Night with the fact that IO +IG+IShine works incredibly well together, its one of my favorite combos and appears to be attractive to a large number of people.

Good Luck and let us know how you come along and what you think of the products!

A314 was the best product advice for you. I use it almost every day and it gives me energy, makes me feel like the alpha, and makes others feel like im the alpha as well. Another thing that could help is IO or IH.. these can help people feel comfortable around you. one of these along with a314 will give you alpha and power along with others being able to be open and comfortable with you.
let us know how things go!

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Maybe a Nol for social would be cool too. I need to work on my inner self-esteem and confidence.

so far Stevios has answered me (and I really appreciate the helpful response from him). He suggested that I get Instant Gentleman (over A314) and Instant Shine and Instant Openeness.

If you guys can also add some input that would be cool…I would like to keep it pretty simple on the amount that I get (and hopefully relatively cost effective if possible).

Hello and Welcome JonnyD!!

Instant Shine, gives you a aura of youthfulness, self-confidence, and an uplifting disposition. The (to-go spray) bottle is inexpensive and cost less than the full size bottle.

Women express a greater preference for a wider array of socially desirable traits, and some of the things a woman desires from a man are confidence, caring, intelligent, and understanding.

With confidence you can seize a unanticipated encounter with a sexy woman. In fact, once a man develop the self confidence to approach women - he realize that the opportunities are actually everywhere. Most women won’t give a guy a change if he lacks self-confidence to approach her.

Instant Openness
Openness is a mood enhancing and increase communication with others.
Openness is more playfully chatty, to quote M Harris: ”Instant Openness quantity of conversion /chatter box, lightness, and good feelings.” The (to-go spray) bottle is inexpensive and cost less than the full size bottle.

I believe IO can help bring out your sense of humor. I know, women find it more romantically desirable if you can make her laugh. A sense of humor is not cracking jokes like Chris Rock or Jay Neno. Sense of humor, can be recalling a funny situations or events. (that’s what I did in while talking to the lady at Subway)

  • IO and Instant Shine get Kudos for their 10% in helping me with speaking and conservation with 13 women today.

While in the food court today, I had a profound and indescribable sense of being aware of the smallest detail of facial expressions in others; while I’ am having a feeling of being center stage amongst people. I liken it to a movie scene.

I see a young, fashionable dressed lady at the Subway counter.
I looked for a moment then realized she’s kind of charming; self deliberations thoughts entered my mind for perhaps two seconds before I put them to rest, it something about her and I had to meet her.

Desiring to maker her feel as comfortable as possible, nothing is worse than making a women feels uncomfortable. I asked her a simple questions, “So, What are you ordering?” and from that point the conservation flowed nicely. I complimented her on her lovely eyes. Then told her a nice story surrounded on a person I meet with blue eyes, it was fun and with humor. “I was hotter than Nevada in the Summer.”:smiley:
At this point she’s open and comfortable and really engaging in the conservation.

She told about the customer service rep’s behavior; I thought he might have given her a hard time. I asked her did she want me to handle this situation for her. “Please, allow me,” for I know women love men that are dependable and who are able to protect them if necessary from potential danger. I’ am just hoping she would says “YES”, because I’ll going into “this is my wife that you have upset” cross over. :smiley: She says “that’s okay” and then lets me to do something with her, so I play along. It’s like we’re in our own time capsule at this point. We talked a while, and then I gracefully say good eye and she thanks me.

I also, had another pleasant experience later on this evening also, with a woman, whom since the age of ten looks likes a popular celebrity. I won’t prolong you any longer, I respect your time and given you this opportunity my experience with Instant Shine and Instant Openness today.

I would definitely recommend a (to-go spray) bottle of both, Instant Shine and Instant Openness for your initial purchase because of the cost effective concern.:slight_smile:

respect,

MVKBUGATTI

Thanks for all of the help guys! I really do appreciate it.

Now I’ve decided to probably get IS and IO. I need to decide between IG and a314. I do need that alpha boost, as it is really lacking. If i were to just get one, would IG help me come off as more alpha in nightlife, or would a314 be better? I’m not super worried of the distancing thing since I don’t think that I come off as too intimidating. However, in Italy where I’ll be, I don’t know if they have the same standards for masculinity as they do in the states (US has guys who try to be ripped and full of muscle, but in Europe it seems that they value a more slender and defined guy (or I could be talking out of my butt :slight_smile: ). If this is the case, maybe a more subdued alpha, such as IG might be better.

However if IG can work in both nightlife and during the day, that will win out.

Any further advice would be helpful.

Best,
Jon

Hi JonnyD - welcome aboard!!! :wink:
The answer for your question is not easy.a314 is good product but sometimes it makes people not willing to talk to you and interact with you.In smaller doses it’s good as building alpha vibe but sometimes it’s just not the socialising and dating type of alpha vibe.IG on the other hand is not any less alpha.It’s less bossy.It’s like both a314 and IG are alpha vibe pheromones but a314 is more bossy and intimidating and creates a distance and IG is more open and cheerful yet as alpha as a314 is.I think that in situations when you do not need to give authority vibe ( such as conferations,seminars, job interviews, bussiness meeting ext. ) IG might be better than a314 with women.Usually when I wear it girls tend to melt with big smile and see me as some cool and cheerfull guy and this is verry good start 'cause conversations are easy and you seem like “the man”.

As every newby you make the mistake to consider that a314 is more alpha than IG witch is totally wrong.They are equal but with different nuances for different situations.Sometimes good for dating is 1 drop a314 and 1 spray IG but since you can afford only one of them - for dating and everyday use around friends - my advice is that IG is better 'cause it’s not bossy but like cool alpha guy ( James Bond on vacation perhaps) who lays down at the beach drinking cocktailes and making our with 3 or 4 girls.A314 is more like some corporate magnat, all dressed up ( suit , tie, watch, black leather suitcase, bodyguards) who is having a corporate meeting with his staff and who gives the orders.It’s alpha but there is a distance witch some girls can like but most of them will keep distance.
So if you want girls to be more open to your alphaness IG is better.
Also combo for dating is 1 drop a314 1.5 or 2 sprays IG and 2 sprays CTTM2.

It’s hard to decide and even better to have the bothe products but since your options are limmited you should decide what nuance of alpha vibe you want more.Bear in mind that being bossy is not a good icebreaker with girls and people but is wonderfull in some bussiness situations.

Wish you luck and have fun with the mones.If you have further questions - just ask - we are verry friendly community here and everyone will be glad to be able to help you.:wink:

Casanova,

Thanks for the help! It helped me to make my decision and I think that I’m gonna end up going with IG, IS (double strength), and IO. I’ll probably use it daily and at night. It sounds like a pretty good combo to me, considering what I’ve been told.

Now I hope that my roommate in Italy doesn’t laugh at me too much when seeing my bottles of mones, lol. I don’t know who I’ll be roomed with, but then again, if he bugs me too much about it, he can go “f” himself (IDK how profane we can be on these boards).

Let me know if you guys think that there might be better combos for my situation.

Best,
Jon

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