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Okay, I kinda posted in the wrong forum the first time, but I didn’t know if it would get moved or not so I figured I’d post here just in case

My name is Marshall, I just turned 19 last month. I live in western WA.
I found out about pheromones through an ad in magazines that advertises “Athena Pheromone”. I was curious if there was anything like that but less pricey, and so i went on Yahoo Answers and searched and thats how i ended up here.

I’m overweight (obese), really shy, and I have a kind of a lone wolf personality. I’ve never had a girlfriend, and usually I’m rejected before I can even say anything, but I am hoping pheromones could help me some.

I’ve already decided that I’m going to get to-go bottles of Instant Shine, Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, Ammunition, and possibly Instant Gentleman.

I had most of my questions answered in my other thread, but i have a couple left

  1. Is it a good idea or bad idea for me to get A314 with my first order?

  2. Does CTTM2 kinda have same effects as Instant openness and/or Instant Honesty? I have a limited budget (only about $120 at most, more with the gift certificate), especially since I’m considering getting A314.

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Hi Marshall, and welcome!!

I wouldn’t just start out with A314 just yet. Start off a little more gradually, maybe with Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, and Instant Shine.

And actually, yes, CTTM is somewhat similar, but it is experimental. If you want to watch your budget for now, you’ll get more bang for your buck with those three. Get the To-Go sizes, so you can get a feel of what works for you best, how much, and in what situations.

Once you’ve got a handle on your unique effects and affects with pheromones, then branch out to other things.

Warm regards,
Sillykitty

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Hey there Marshall,
I would STRONGLY encourage you to be patient before you order A314 right off the bat.

I may be a remedial member, but I’ve found it to be hard to master. It tends to put a social bubble around you and doesn’t play well with a shy personality. Stick with the sprays first to get a handle on things.

I would also steer you away from the experimentals mostly because they are just that: the effects aren’t exactly known. Anything with an M, a P, or CTTM would be a bad bet for your first order, in my opinion.

At 19, your lifestyle is radically different from mine, so take what I say with a grain of salt. But from what I’ve gathered in the short time I’ve been using phero’s, they build on the positive parts of your personality, not correct the less positive parts.

So there’s a lot to be said about phero’s can’t create, but they enhance. If you’re shy, you might see some good results from IS and IO, but a lot of the work has to come from you.
I was really nervous about getting back into the dating arena at 28, after 6 years of being out of it.
I used TUTH with IO and had a blast.

What I’d recommend: Start with some of the basic staple products: Ammo, IO, and IS. Get to know the products one by one and become a forum regular. Ask questions. Watch the advice given here and you’ll learn mountains. Your 2nd order (and 3rd) will be much more focused and informed.

While you’re learning the products, don’t forget to take some time to learn yourself. The sprays won’t do all the work, but they’ll give you an edge. Remember that, and then get out there and have some fun.

Oh, and a word of advise. That’s great you can admit to being overweight, but if you’re looking for a relationship boost, don’t bring that to the table. Treat it as a non-issue and it will not be one. That’s confidence.

We’re all here for questions, just ask.

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Hi Marshall,

Welcome to the forum.

To recommend the right phero for you and to answer your questions more precisely, please let us know what is your purpose of using pheromones? Is it for socializing, relationship, only sexual, respect or other purposes?

Do you have a specific target currently?

Awaiting your reply. Welcome again

Cheers

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I’m probably mainly going to use them for relationship purposes (well, right now, just to get in a relationship with a girl), but I might use them for the other purposes listed

My main target is a friend of mine that i met through my sister. She’s 17, and I’ve known her for about 2 years, and we go to the same school (I don’t have any classes with her, but we have the same lunch). She isn’t involved with anyone, and has never been. i kinda have a situation though. Last summer when I realized I like her more than I thought, she found out. My sister Kind of rejected me for her, but it was kind of an open rejection (i.e. I can change it if i “Do this, get that”, etc.), and since then me and that girl have not been as good of friends. so now I’m in like a weird friend zone stage, and I’m trying right now to get our friendship back up to where it was.

The girl is really shy (more than I am), which is why I’m thinking about getting IO and/or IH. She’s kind of a gold digger (well, thats what my sister said), and has higher standards than most, which is why I was thinking about getting A314.

I also am interested in another girl at that school, but only for sexual reasons (for right now anyways). She’s in my first and last classes of the day. We’re not that good of friends, and I only see her at school (unless I go to the pizza place in town where she works), and i was wondering how to go about the sexual part at a school environment. As far as her personality goes, she is a bit shy, and can be mean at times (at least thats what I hear from other people).

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For the girl you like, I suggest AMMO, IO and IH.

AMMO will make her attracted to you. It is an attractant and it can sexually attract her too.
IO will make her open up and talk to you. She will like to talk to you.
IH will add quality to the conversation. She will talk deeper, more details with you. This can build the relationship.

For the girls with sexual reason, AMMO is still the choice. After she knows you and is close to you, change AMMO to TUTH. TUTH will sexually arouse her.

Good luck

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I like all of Jamesbonded’s suggestions, but I’d supplement it. Go for someone else. She’s rejecting you for who/how you are right now. Let her see you make someone else swoon. You bend to what she wants, she holds all the cards. Use those pheros around her, but not for her, and you’ve got something sweeter than yoohoo. <exiting kingpin quote>

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Hello Marshall, Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

I see your pretty set on what you want to order. You made some great choices.

I would suggest IH and IO separate before you get them in CTTM. CTTM is more raw and doesn’t have the steering mones that IH and IO have.

Since your really shy wait on the A314 until you get a good feel for these the instants

If you have any more questions or need help just ask

Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha
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