Well, there’s the question. I’m not getting much of anything with 3 sprays of Ammo, Usually I’ll even add a spray of IO and once a spray of TUTH. I loved the effect TUTH had on me. It made me feel like I could ask out any woman and not care if I got turned down (but the way I was feeling I figured nobody would turn me down - I know - effect of mone) but this was in private that I tried it. Not sure what would happen if I tried it out in public.
Okay. let’s say I was walking on a sidewalk, or in a mall. What would be a nice combo to garner an indicator of interest. Just a sly smile from someone, or someone locking eyes with me for a second, or turning their heads as I walked passed them.
Yes, yes, I know. Mones are only as affective as the wearer who uses them, in terms of how he relates to others and carries himself. I’m just looking for something to just create that little crack that says “It’s okay to come talk to me.”
I don’t own any A134 but I’m thinking this is what I should order next.
You say you’re not getting much of anything… this is out in public?
Here’s a suggestion. Stop what you’re doing right now and don’t wear another thing for a day or two. Be sure to shower and scrub app spots really well. Now after those days are over, think about some of the interactions you had with / without mones.
Now, start over again. I would start at 2 sprays just in case you just didn’t notice the hits you were getting.
Some hits may not be so blatant. You need to consider your baseline of how most people would act towards you in any given situation and then compare the two.
As I said some hits could be really subtle and if you’re not aware of what you should be looking for you can miss somethings. Read up on indicators of interest, body language etc. and you might find you’re getting hits the whole time.
I don’t actually find that mones are as good as the wearer, per say Mones either work for you or they don’t…at 1st when wearing A314, p75, p83, IS, IH, IO, TUTH you’re going to give that signal off no matter who you are..
Now…finding the right sweet spot that will “click in” and achieve the results you’re hoping for in conjunction with your body chemistry is the trick but, a signal is being sent off regardless…as social communication continues, judgements will be made to either dismiss or confirm the signals which you’re “artificially” giving off.
What I think the crux of the issue is your body chemistry and dosing. I’m the same way with AMMO…its the one product of the consumer group of which I haven’t been able to find a real sweet spot yet. so I suggest YES, keep going 4 sprays, 5…or do what Gentlemen says…scrub all that none off…usel witch hazel, peroxide etc…take 2 or so days off and start over. DO BOTH…I can’t see how old you are but older guys can take more sprays of AMMO…younger guys not so much Im told.
Gent and happy both gave you some solid advice. If I can add anythig is that make sure you use ammo by itself for initial testing. You could be weakening your results by adding in other products.
Perhaps I am getting hits but just not noticing. But I think that would be something I’d notice. Since I started wearing mones I’ve noticed more and more girls playing with their hair when I walk by or sit neraby. I do get the occasional smile here and there. But then what girl doesn’t play with their hair? Hell, I play with my hair. LoL.
I’m going to order some A134 and see what that does.
Hair play can actually be a pretty good hit. Any time you notice them fixing clothes or playing with something it can be a sign that something is getting to her… hopefully its you!
A good way to judge is to look around the room and gauge her actions to the other women in the room. Is she swaying in her chair? Playing nervously with a pen or pencil? Adjusting her clothes or hair constantly? Are the other women in the room doing it at this frequency? Chances are probably not. These are all signs that your having some effect on her. All you have to do is capitalize on it!
I have to agree with Happy, I’ve almost gone through a bottle of Ammo and have yet to see any good hits and I don’t want to use more then 3 sprays since it really stinks lol
You mentioned your looking for hits when walking by or when people are walking by you. It takes a minute or two for people to process the mones. Someone walking by you could be well out of visual range before they process the feeling. Pay more attention to cues in location like the food court or places where they are less mobile.
Different products hit a little harder and faster then others. Again this is from processing time. The neurotransmitter fires immediately but the person still has to register the feeling and decide what it means in conjunction with their environment. You may see a more blatant reaction to TUTH because its evoking a slightly different emotion. People have different body cues for different emotions. They process arousal faster then they do interest. Now just because TUTH evokes arousal and they show cues does not mean they will act on that feeling. They may lack interest which takes longer to process. Ammo is more subtle in that it evokes the interest first then the anone in it sneaks in under the radar and starts to heat up the arousal slowly.
The cues Maidenfan01 wrote here are good for sexual arousal and through experience he knows AMMO. It is more smooth and natural. Interest has a different set of cues though. Direct eye contact. Smiling, hovering in your area, interest in what your doing or in what your showing interest in. It is harder to pick up but its there. What happens is while your busy looking for one thing you tend to miss the other.
I think some guys are just looking for the sexual cues and missing the interest cues. There is more then one way to get someone in bed if sex is all you have on your mind. (Your young men so thats normal) Ammo takes a different approach then something like TUTH. Tuth is more hit or miss. Ammo is more persuasive.
You could be missing a whole array of girls when you disregard or dont recognize the different hits different products produce. That takes time and for some who are impatient and looking for “instant” easy gratification they may never pick up on them.
Dont wait for your mones to work for you. Learn to work you mones. This means learning the different nuances of each mix before you start layering. Learning the different cues each one produces. In this sense its true mones are only as good as the user. Your new to this and its a skill you learn with experience and time. It took time for the veteran users to figure out as well but at least that makes it a tad easier for you because you know a little more about what to expect on how they work.
I think Gentlemens suggestion about starting with a clean canvas and Happyspanking whoops… I mean (((happytappins))) suggestion of reworking your dose along with all the other advice here will help you find out how to work AMMO to your best advantage.
Good hits ??? All positive hits are good hits whether they are subtle or blatant. Other then in the case of negative hits from Oding there is no such thing as a good or bad hit. There are just hits that present themselves with different cues. Mastering pheromones means being able to recognize those cues and use them to your advantage.
I know people like Steve who can use just about any product and identify the cues and hits and work it to his advantage and ultimately have a 80 to 90% success rate if he chooses to pursue someone. They may not all sleep with him because face it some people are married or in relationships or have other issues going on in life but they show attraction and in that attraction is opportunity.
Think of TUTH as a big heavy hammer and Ammo as a smaller more compact hammer. Both can build a house but TUTH due to its heaviness tends to drive nails faster but also bend more nails so you end up having to pull those out and throw them out and start again. AMMO on the other hand takes longer and you need to hit the nail more but its more successful at driving the nail home without bending it. Two tools with different strengths and weaknesses.
I want to thank you Tisha for such a detailed, informative and eye-opening reply.
So thank You.
No, sex is not all I have on my mind. What is on my mind is understanding effects mones have on people around the wearer. Alright, yes, by people I do mean females primarily.
At this point I am not placing a huge distinction on “good hits” or “bad hits” - I’m looking for general hits. And I’d like to clarify that - I’m not looking for a hit where someone will stop dead as if in a trance and hand me her number - where as you pointed out Tisha, I am new and still curious as to the world of mones. I’ve not yet encountered the type of blatent instance where I can say to myself “Damn, these things really work.” and this is the journey I’m on now. Just Looking for that instance. (It’s the journalist in me, LoL.)
If I made it seem like I am looking for the sexual cues rather then interest cues that’s not the case. Okay…if I was going to a club I’d have a general idea what to use. I don’t go to clubs though, so I’m therefore relegated to meeting people in everyday circumstances. As I said in my first post I have not tried TUTH out in public. If I was I think I would start with just one spray. Layerd over 3 or 4 or even 5 sprays of AMMO.
Okay maybe good hits is the wrong term, how about apparent hits? With socials it’s pretty evident and easy to spot. Even with P83. I did have someone tell me I smelt nice wearing ammo but that was about it. LIke I said before maybe I’m not using enough but the smell is so strong, is there a different version? maybe I’ll try 2x strength and wear less sprays. As for Steve’s success rate I can only take that with a gain of salt. You guys represent the company so it’s unlikely you’ll say it’s bunk and as for getting his girl 80-90% of the time..well I can say that as well on here. No one knows me anymore then a hole in the ground so who knows what’s what. If it’s true all the power to him
Your misunderstanding me. I dont mean he sleeps or dates 90% of the girls. He gets a good response, clear hits and he can take that response where he wants to due to understanding the different nuances of the products. I have spent countless hours on the phone with Steve and I have heard it first hand. Not from him telling me but from it going on while I am on the phone and him telling me to hold on a minute. I can hear just about everything thats occurring in the background.
I dont work for AD nor do I represent them. (jeez Jassy would have a cow) and believe me if a product is bunk here I will come right out and say it. I have many times in the past to the annoyance of the staff. Ammo is not one of those products. It just presents itself differently then something like TUTH. Its sneaky. LOL
In your case since the smell bothers you it could just be that its making you self conscious and that is showing in your BL. Could be dosage as well. What I am saying is that while your looking for that apparent hit you may be missing those subtle hits. Blatant hits with all the products are few and far between. Pheromones are subtle in nature.
That’s a good point, it’s not that I don’t like the smell, I think it smells good. It’s the fact that it’s so strong. One shot and I can smell it all day. That is a good point I’ll try it out and check myself see if I’m more concerned about smelling to strong and not just enjoying it, I may get the 2X so I can wear less of it. Thanks Tisha I appreciate the fact you took the time out to reply
Well, I think I got my first hits today. I was sitting on a public bench this afternoon when one woman came and sat beside me and started chatting up a storm with me. Now this woman wasn’t the type I would find attractive at all, but people are people and deserving of respect and acknowledgement so I’ll chat with anybody. Thing is I was in a really grumpy mood too. So she gets up after a few minutes of talking about the weather with me and then a minute or so later another guy sits beside me. He doesn’t say anything though. And like I said I was in a grumpy mood today and for sure had a “Leave me alone” look on my face.
I really piled on the mones before going out today too. 3 sprays of AMMO, 1 IO and even 1 of TUTH. It was a VERY windy day so maybe the scent was blowing all over the place and people were following it back to me.
Or maybe these two people just wanted to sit for a moment. Who knows?
What is on my mind is understanding effects mones have on people around the wearer. Alright, yes, by people I do mean females primarily.