Number of morbidly obese growing rapidly

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Well here’s the thing:

I’ve lost many, many pounds. I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve lost it doing Atkins and every single test I have taken since has shown dramatic increases in my health.

I only eat organic food whenever possible, I exercises daily, but I also live life to the fullest.

If that means an occasional diet Dr. Pepper, Rum and coke, weekly Cuban cigar than more power to me.

It’s not about

smn1234. Even this unless done correctly is not going to help an obese person. How do I know? I tried it and it didn’t work. Here’s the kicker: I tried it by eating a lean cuisine, a burger, a hot pocket, a can of raviolis. These are all small meals and guess what? No loss but massive gain.

If you want to lose weight, pick a diet like Atkins, don’t pig out because you can and EXERCISE!

It’s that simple.

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my dads friend died on atkins.
literally.:frowning:

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Well I’ve lost well over 100lbs, my cholesterol is perfect, have never been healthier and I will proudly say Atkins is great.

Funny thing is I had a blood workup a week ago. My doctor was amazed at all the weight I lost and the complete turn around of my blood work. When she asked what type of diet I was doing and I told her Atkins, she was like that’s bad for you!

Umm you just told me I was healthier than I have ever been!

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uhhh uh.. i nkow someone too

A diet implies u watch what you eat. So, in fact, it is all about what I said.
I did mention to keep the meals small (in turn small in caloric value… typically) and stay below your maintenance calorie levels..

u r allowed to pig out, they’re called cheat meals.
But those need to be minimized, and it’s recommended to have only one a week.

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here’s what I’m talking about:
Bodybuilding Nutrition - Sample Bodybuilding Diet

I have diet logs from some people I know. I know a man who went from 305 to 167 in 2 or 3 years. I believe he has 30 pounds of muscle or something like that. Idon’t have time now but he has a whole website. He took pics every month, posted his exercise routing, etc.

P.S.
his weight loss is smart, he could’ve lost weight faster but he didn’t… I know someone who did.. now he needs plastic surgery because he has stretch marks everywhere

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yeah aspartame is another one of my rant-worthy hotbuttons. it’s the devil.

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I think the GI (glycemic index) diet constitutes a much smarter version of Atkins. It’s all the sugars (esp. hfcs) we eat that cause such wild fluctuation of blood sugar.

Aspartame is terrifying, but have you read about atrazine? Used on sugar, corn and a few other crops, it causes boy frogs to grow gonads (have you heard about the huge shortage of amphibians?). (Environmental Health News: Archives)

What can you eat these days? Hard to say anything is safe anymore.

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i followed the zone (diabetic diet) because my dad needed someone to cook for him for a while, and i coulnt keep weight ON with it !!!

guys, SUCRALOSE brand name splenda put me in the hospital.
of course i had quite a bit of it on one day, but if out of curiousity you look it up, settlements are being awarded in court because they money they make off the product far surpasses the millions they will have to pay out in the long run.

due to it being in all products with only 3 months of safety testing,
it can afford to wear out its welcome till it winds up like the tobacco industry :slight_smile:

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i tend to agree. I actually just follow a paleo-lithic style diet. If i had no tools and fire what could I digest.

this conveniently eliminates most starches, some dairy and legumes, and leaves me with proteins and fruits and veggies and certain nuts and seeds. If i can eat it raw, I’ll eat it cooked.

makes it easy to go out and about as well.

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Instead of aspartame and splenda, you might want to look into Stevia. I don’t know if you have heard of it before. Here is a link: Stevia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think it is a “better bad choice” when it comes to sugars, compared with aspartame and splenda.

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Yeah, Stevia’s okay, actually. It’s pretty much the only sweetener I use (if I have to use one).

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I prefer stevia myself…but I make sure to use either the whole leaf (for use in teas), or the extracts that are minimally processed, and without the use of chemicals.

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Guys, you HAVE to try xylitol! I am so enthusiastic about it, I can’t shut up!

It has absolutely no aftertaste like stevia, and you can bake with it and everything.. have coffee that tastes just like coffee with sugar!!! and stuff. I buy “NOW” brand xylitol, and it’s so much better than stevia, it’s not even funny.. I’ve used it for close to a year, and cannot say enough about it. You have to use the slightest amount more than regular sugar to get the same sweetness, but the caloric amount is 1/4 of the sugar. It’s really worth it though, to have no bitter aftertaste of stevia or any other sweetener that screams “I am trying to be healthy, and it’s supposed to be good for me but taste kinda crappy”

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ooh too much sugar alcohol (like Xylitol) will gives me “digestive distrubances” this is why i stay away from most protein bars and various and sundry other food replacements.

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After doing a lot of research myself I find that you have chosen an interesting combination, Tacitus!

I will try this myself for 6 months. I am planning to report in this thread after that time (somebody remind me if I foreget because I am feeling so heathy :stuck_out_tongue: )

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well, this is where my head is at vis a vis the food I eat… almost everything is grown now in places where you would ordinarily develop gastric problems if you travelled there, and I’m certain there’s a high level of general contamination of bad bacteria in both meat and salad leaves, there are some enterococci and bacilli (like the clostridium group) you can be gravely damaged by, as in having a segment of your intestine cut out to prevent internal gangrene… we’ve gotten sort of acclimated to a steady stream of e. coli breakouts, filthy hospitals, resistant streps and staphs sprayed all over everything… and I have also noticed that with this convenient food at my local salad bar, I have been more and more quietly suffering from a low grade gastritis which was taking its toll, mild enough to barely stay under the radar, and I’m also noticing, yep, this feels like a low intensity, chronic version of these things I’d catch in Mexico and take another 3 weeks to clear out with acidophilus, back in the 1970s…

Nowadays, I NEED to take a strong probiotic twice a day, every day, with the new super-strains of Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Plantarum, etc… to feel completely healthy… and it was never like this before, so I have to assume that the food supply has been compromised for profit purposes or to keep consumer costs down and the inflation numbers low, which plays well for the politcal crowd… look everybody, your food is so cheap ! Yep, but your medical expenses keep on rising. The why of it is no mystery, not at all. :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

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What exactly do you take in the way of probiotics (as in, which brands, etc.)?

Have you ever tried Primal Defense, that kind of thing?

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What Tacitus takes is in my last quote!

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Oh - sorry about that.

Thanks!

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Also have been adding (a lot of) Lactobacillus Reuteri… very fascinating critters… they manufacture agents that control inflammation and also act as natural antibiotics (bacteriocins)… I started taking a bunch of these around midday, 30 minutes pre-lunch… hafta say, in combo with everything else, my innards just plain feel better than they have in ages, like I’m properly nourished, no bloating at all, no feelings of overfullness or gut tightness… Nature’s Way is the only US manufacturer… in whatever probiotic you take, it it really important they you select a enteric coated capsule… regardlress of what’s on the label, stomach acids will destroy about 99% of most lactobacilli… and not all capsules ARE enteric coated… the second thing is that enteric coated capsules have to be taken on an empty stomach about half an hour to 45 minutes before eating or well between meals or before going to bed… third thing is to make sure you have a good store that sells only fresh, generally refrigerated product… Reuteri has to be kept refrigerated…

If you follow all that, normally you’ll feel the new lactobacilli going to work very quickly once they hit your small intestine, in me it is sort of a warm, relaxing, everything in balance feeling… so I strongly suspect that this complex mixture of organisms is a major piece of the digestive process, and they’re transforming food into many nutrient elements that the body is evolved to deal with with maximum efficiency…

Probably the right balance of intestinal flora is as important as any external nutrient… I definitely find weight loss vastly easier now, I don’t have to struggle to resist overeating… so maybe we overeat in a desperate attempt to get fractions of these little understood factors that the right bacteria produce naturally ?

Check this piece of science out ! What it is saying, in effect, is that “histiocytes”, cells that exhibit irritation and inflammation effects, are actually reduced by the presence of Reuteri:

“Gastric mucosal histiocyte numbers were reduced and duodenal B-lymphocyte numbers were increased by L. reuteri ATCC 55730 administration. Furthermore, L. reuteri administration induced a significantly higher amount of CD4-positive T-lymphocytes in the ileal epithelium. Dietary supplementation with the probiotic L. reuteri ATCC 55730 induces significant colonization of the stomach, duodenum, and ileum of healthy humans, and this is associated with significant alterations of the immune response in the gastrointestinal mucosa. These responses may be key components of a mechanism by which L. reuteri ATCC 55730 exerts its well-documented probiotic effects in humans.”

Colonization and Immunomodulation by Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC 55730 in the Human Gastrointestinal Tract – Valeur et al. 70 (2): 1176 – Applied and Environmental Microbiology