Number of morbidly obese growing rapidly

I use the intestinal cleanser/fiber (powder) on a daily basis, and I use the paranil (capsles) twice a year to purge unwanted critters. lol. I really never used the kleritea until recently, and the only effects I noted was that it makes me regular in a shorter time span, ie. only after a couple hours after consumption. You can buy each product seperate if you desire under their product catalog. I usually buy 3 tubs of the fiber, which figures out to be about 64 bucks. It lasts me about 1, 1.5 month for one tub, but I have other family members using it as well. So, I figure it should last a single person about 2, 2.5 months. I think it is a good investment, especially after being on the program, and ceasing to use it after a week or two – there is a major difference as you can tell.

The only downside to continuous usage, in which I really wouldn’t consider it as an adverse effect, is that your regularity will not be as frequent as when you first started using the product; and that is mainly because the excessive fecal matter has been removed after the first month of usage. You will still have bowl movement(s) daily, though, just not as many.

I’m glad to hear that you are seeing results using colonix. A lot of people have bought the program after hearing/reading my testimonial, and they definately come back with the same response. Just remember to go by what the directions suggest. My brother over did the intake, and had to skip school because he had cramps (candida, I assume).

Update this thread again at the end of your program. I would be interested in any results, parasites particularly. I haven’t really had anything abnormal come out of me, but my mom did.

Wow, thank your for sharing your experience!

I will post results in 3 months.
Just remember that I am also on Tacitus’ bacterial mix and since these products seem to work together very well, I won’t be able to tell which one gave the best effects as long as I use everything at the same time.

I probably won’t see any parasites because my toilet is constructed in a way which makes it hard to inspect stuff… don’t make me go into detail :stuck_out_tongue:

Sunny

LOL, I avoided inspecting my crap for the longest time, but then I got curious as to whether the paranil was working or not. I decided to take sneak peaks, and sure enough there were some evil little critters in my stool. I think some people take it a little too seriously when they bust out the trays and instruments – there’s no need to disect your crap for samples. My mom had odd parasites come of her mouth, though. :open_mouth: I never had anything like that happen, thankfully.

I may buy some of the probiotics that tacitus suggested. I know they have probiotics at the colonix site, but the toxinout veggie caps didn’t really have an effect on me, so I’m not sure about their other products outside of the colonix program.

Btw, no problem in sharing my experience. I remember what it used to feel like without a good fiber in my diet, and it seemed like the symptoms (bloating, constipation, low energy, acne) ruled my life. Colonix has changed, if not eliminated those symptoms for the better. It has also inspired me to be more health conscious. I’m thinking about raw vegan, but I’m not sure if I want to discount all meat from my diet.

Anyways, good luck, and do share your results at the end.

Hmmm, after reading the recommendations here and looking through the site, I am also seriously considering the Colonix. The funny thing is that I came across their site a few months ago. I decided against it at the time because I decided I had no real way of determining if it would be a waste of money or not. However with the recommendations here, I may just give it a try after all.

I’m looking at there products list and I am also considering the Flora Protect Probiotic. I can’t decide if I want to use it with the Colonix program though, or if I should wait until after completing the program before starting it.

Anyway, if I decide to do it, I will post my results here.

Well Dutchess, go ahead, try it! We will be looking forward to your report.

We Europeans are excluded from using Flora Protect - and even Colonix is much more expensive on the European website. :angry:

Sunny

we Americans aren’t doing so great in the food quality department:

this just in from Associated Press:

LOS ANGELES - The same food safety net that couldn’t catch poisoned pet food ingredients from China has a much bigger hole.
Billions of dollars’ worth of foreign ingredients that Americans eat in everything from salad dressing to ice cream get a pass from overwhelmed inspectors, despite a rising tide of imports from countries with spotty records, according to an Associated Press analysis of federal trade and food data.
Well before contaminated shipments from China killed 16 cats and dogs and sickened thousands more, government food safety task forces worried about the potential human threat — ingredients are hard to quarantine and can go virtually everywhere in a range of brand products.

When U.S. Food and Drug Administration inspectors at ports and border checkpoints look, they find shipments that are filthy or otherwise contaminated. They rarely bother, however, in part because ingredients aren’t a priority.
Because these oils, spices, flours, gums and the like haven’t been blamed for killing humans, safety checks before they reach the supermarket shelf are effectively the responsibility of U.S. buyers. As the pet deaths showed, however, that system is far from secure…

(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18271015/)

And apparently some European countries are trying to do it too well.

I have been unable to obtain Primadophilus Reuteri in my European country. All U.S. shops say that it is now illegal to ship probiotics to some European countries.

Why did they make it ILLEGAL to get good probiotics? What’s wrong with that???

GRRRRRR…
Sunny

My last post went to moderationland…

It seems to work to first post a few words, then edit the post and add the rest you intended to write… to get around the “feature” of this board…

In short: Some European countries seem to be overdoing it.

I have been unable to obtain Primadophilus Reuteri in my European country. U.S. webshop owners told me on the phone that they are not any more allowed to ship probiotics to some European countries.

I think I am living in a country with some pretty stupid politicians.
Sunny

It gets worse::open_mouth:

FDA knew for years of danger to food

Agency says it could not have stopped outbreaks
By Elizabeth Williamson
THE WASHINGTON POST
April 23, 2007
WASHINGTON – The Food and Drug Administration has known for years about contamination problems at a Georgia peanut butter plant and on California spinach farms that led to disease outbreaks that killed three people, sickened hundreds and forced one of the biggest product recalls in U.S. history, documents and interviews show.

Rest of story HERE!

The FDA are criminals! They will arrest and convict those pushing natural remedies, but push Big-Pharm chemicals that cause more adverse than good affects.

It’s shameful!

I know you wont be disappointed with the Colonix program - I’ve yet to find somebody who has. I’m definately interested in seeing your response to the Flora, if you do decide to go through it.

You gotta luv this !

ZHANGQIU, China, April 28 — As American food safety regulators head to China to investigate how a chemical made from coal found its way into pet food that killed dogs and cats in the United States, workers in this heavily polluted northern city openly admit that the substance is routinely added to animal feed as a fake protein.

Workers at the Shandong Mingshui Great Chemical Company say they commonly add the chemical melamine in the process of making animal feed. Melamine appears as protein but has no nutritional value.

For years, producers of animal feed all over China have secretly supplemented their feed with the substance, called melamine, a cheap additive that looks like protein in tests, even though it does not provide any nutritional benefits, according to melamine scrap traders and agricultural workers here.
“Many companies buy melamine scrap to make animal feed, such as fish feed,” said Ji Denghui, general manager of the Fujian Sanming Dinghui Chemical Company, which sells melamine. “I don’t know if there’s a regulation on it. Probably not. No law or regulation says ‘don’t do it,’ so everyone’s doing it. The laws in China are like that, aren’t they? If there’s no accident, there won’t be any regulation.”

Melamine is at the center of a recall of 60 million packages of pet food, after the chemical was found in wheat gluten linked this month to the deaths of at least 16 pets and the illness of possibly thousands of pets in the United States.
No one knows exactly how melamine (which is not believed to be particularly toxic) became so fatal in pet food, but its presence in any form of American food is illegal.

The link to China has set off concerns among critics of the Food and Drug Administration that ingredients in pet food as well as human food, which are increasingly coming from abroad, are not being adequately screened.
“They have fewer people inspecting product at the ports than ever before,” says Caroline Smith DeWaal, the director of food safety for the (Center for Science in the Public Interest - The New York Times) in Washington. “Until China gets programs in place to verify the safety of their products, they need to be inspected by U.S. inspectors. This open-door policy on food ingredients is an open invitation for an attack on the food supply, either intentional or unintentional.”
Now, with evidence mounting that the tainted wheat gluten came from China, American regulators have been granted permission to visit the region to conduct inspections of food treatment facilities.
The Food and Drug Administration has already banned imports of wheat gluten from China after it received more than 14,000 reports of pets believed to have been sickened by packaged food. And last week, the agency opened a criminal investigation in the case and searched the offices of at least one pet food supplier.
The Department of Agriculture has also stepped in. On Thursday, the agency ordered more than 6,000 hogs to be quarantined or slaughtered after some of the pet food ingredients laced with melamine were accidentally sent to hog farms in eight states, including California.:slight_smile: **
The pet food case is also putting China’s agricultural exports under greater scrutiny because the country has had a terrible food safety record.
In recent years, for instance,
China’s food safety scandals have involved everything from fake baby milk formulas and soy sauce made from human hair to instances where cuttlefish were soaked in calligraphy ink to improve their color and eels were fed contraceptive pills to make them grow long and slim.:stuck_out_tongue: **
For their part, Chinese officials dispute any suggestion that melamine from the country could have killed pets. But regulators here on Friday banned the use of melamine in vegetable proteins made for export or for use in domestic food supplies.
Yet what is clear from visiting this region of northeast China is that for years melamine has been quietly mixed into Chinese animal feed and then sold to unsuspecting farmers as protein-rich pig, poultry and fish feed.
Many animal feed operators here advertise on the Internet, seeking to purchase melamine scrap. The Xuzhou Anying Biologic Technology Development Company, one of the companies that American regulators named as having shipped melamine-tainted wheat gluten to the United States, had posted such a notice on the Internet last March.
Here at the Shandong Mingshui Great Chemical Group factory, huge boiler vats are turning coal into melamine, which is then used to create plastics and fertilizer.:smiley:

As a side comment I had good results following what is known as the Volumetrics style diet.

Still checking out other ideas/suppliments/etc.

I am also of the opinion that what works diet-wise for one may not work for another. You need to match the overall diet to you. And the dietary changes need to be pretty much permanent. A whole change of lifestyle.

I’m also starting to think that much “modern” food is so nutritionally deprived that the body goes into defensive fat-storing “starvation” mode practically from birth…

My opinions.

Yow… there was an investigative report on food contamination recently… some of the toxin residues are pretty freaky, especially hi-tech antifungals, things to maximize food freshness… like, at the store the other day, thay had received a shipment of bananas still in their cartons from down south way, Costa Rica I think, and the box had printed on it that the bananas may contain one of three “preservative” chemicals with names that didn’t sound at all friendly… they omitted any explanation of how these chemicals were applied to the banana… needless to say, when the banana is on the shelf, there isn’t any indication whatsoever about these substances…