hey guys. I have being some research and it has lead me to this forum. I have zero experience with pheromones, and quite frankly, am a none believer at this point. My opinion is slightly starting to become swayed however, due to this forum and many others (sorry if that offends!!).
here is a little about me. Id love for you guys to help me customize what would work best for me! I am Jeff, a white, 21 year old, VERY outgoing male. Definitely not an alpha however. Im always that guy that all the girls love to talk to and be friends with, but never take it beyond that. I am in school currently, doing emergency medical technician, so I dont really need mones for the workplace hahah.
When it comes to women, im not necessarily looking for something serious as i am quite young and just want to get my monetary situation straightened out for now. Sex however, is always a necessity. I have some go to girls, but i want to expand a bit (dont we all).
You can find me at bars, clubs, and wherever else the party may be. Im only going to be 21 once right? I have ZERO problem engaging girls, it just all about closing. I get IOI’s, long conversations, deep meaningful conversations, but i end up in the friendzone. Yeah sure i might get her number, but its just to be friends i guess.
Nah,its pretty normal to be a non-believer before trying them out.As long as your ready to give them a chance,should be interesting(^^)The gift certificate helps too because you can try a product pretty much risk free(:-p)Hmm,if you want to take it to more than friends.You usually have to escalate a bit.Its hard to balance comfort and flirting.If you end up too far on the comfort side without the sexual tension,you end up just as friends(><)Think some of the other members would probably be better at helping you with your game though since im not that good at it(^_^)
Since you mainly go to bars and clubs and dont need it for the workplace,would probably go with ammo.Its sexual enough to let a girl know your interested and attractive while still being buffered enough to not get the horny vibe like TUTH.Still might be careful of the dosage though since your pretty young and most likely fit(^^)Hmm,i find instant honesty also helps with closing because they feel like they have a deep connection with you and are relationship material but since you already have deep meaningful conversations.not quite sure why you end up in the friendzone unless they think your the person they can tell all their worries too?Ammo and instant shine should be an okay combo for you otherwise.The instant shine gives a subtle mood boost to conversations which is always good.All the best and dont hesitate to ask if you want to know anything(^^)
I think looifookmeng gave you some great advice. To add to his take a little bit, I’d say Ammo is your best bet. It’s a great general use product, suitable for almost any occasion. If you’re in an environment where there’s lots of competition from other “alpha” males, you could try TUTH as well, but it tends to provoke strong reactions. I usually only use it when I’ve already pretty much sealed the deal. It can be used for picking up women, but you really have to buffer it’s effects with more social products like IO, IS or IH.
Another you might try is IG. It’s great for projecting higher status. I’ve had good results combining Ammo and IG in a 1:1 ratio, and I’m about your age. Then again, everyone is different.
Another thing you might want to consider is that pheromones won’t do everything for you. Some of your success HAS to come from your behavior. If you’re having trouble closing, perhaps it’s because the girls don’t know that you’re interested? Take a look around the forums for IOIs and other ways to show your interest.
Hey there, Jeff, welcome to the forum. Thanks for the intro with meaning and substance. Enjoy your type of intro.
As to being a Very Outgoing male, but NOT alpha like, I’d think that AMMO will do you well in influencing your vibes to others around you. AMMO gets me a self effect of comfortable to be in my own skin, look others in the eye, we’re equals feel. The Sexy Man here is shared with others in my mone cloud. I could see AMMO and your attitude, getting you out of the FZ. I do like the Golden Combo, with IShine as well.
You may be able to try IJ, a little bit, 1 spray max, a little bit of mones goes a long way with this one, to give you more of a bad boy vibe. With your openness already and with this IJ vibe, you could do much to attract gals in bars and clubs. Just be mindful that you can have some of the guys around you show a pissy attitude toward you. This mone is also one that I suggest for those who want a more obvious results with mones, good or bad. IJ is one of those mones that you can tell.
Even though you are young, I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest you look into a MX297/TUTH combo here - MX297 is a superbly social and socially engaging formula that is well tested and understood (although as an MX, still no warranty) that a social guy can use with great effectiveness - it delivers best when worked hard in a fun/social manner. All it lacks is a sexual kick and I’ve found that adding some overt none, like TUTH can work very well indeed - esp around younger women.
You can use Ammo as well but I’m not convinced that the rone in Ammo helps the 297 though. MX297 is also sold as MX390, which has a different scent (same as Ammo), which is just as good and a stealth version is also on the cards (soon I hope!)
IJ can be good but at 21, its high none content is very likely to be a bit much for many girls around your age, except in maybe the raunchiest environments - clubs/parties etc but yeah, watch the guys. Don’t wear it to work or class, that will just piss folk off at you all round.
You have gottens ome pretty good advice here so far.
I would hesitate to juse IJ as Mobo said the hight none content can often backfire with younger girls (around your age down to 18). Same thing with TUTH unless you buffer it with IO to make it friendlier.
Ammo is a great base product. So is IG. They are two different animals though.
Ammo has a buffered none in it. It will let the ladies know you are interested.
IG does not have any none and will give you a cool, smooth, calm lapha male vibe. It can make you seem a little older or younger depending on the other person’s perspective. If you are with younger girls it can make you seem their age. However if she is 23 or so she might interpret the signal as you being her age.
Cool, thanks for the advice guys. :-). I’m thinking of trying ammo for my first purchase. It seems like a good product to use on first dates and I got one this weekend. Now can I mix ammo with my cologne?
Ammo is in a light (ahem!) 10% cologne strength that is pretty strong as it is and that will be pretty difficult to cover with all but the most powerful colognes. Nothing to stop you layering it to see if you want but give the Ammo a few minutes to dry down and let the pheros fix on your skin.
Mixing will also wreck dosage and possibly diffusion.
I like the scent of neroli, but I don’t have a superb sense of smell like some users here (I’m a smoker) so I’m probably not the best person to answer. It’s fairly light.
I would say try it out. The worst that can happen is that you have to return it because it offends your nose horribly
You can also custom order your pheromones if you want to use one of the other cover scents offered by AD. My putative selection is all in coconut vanilla
OK - Straight-up, that is a subject of some debate. Some love it, others hate it and then there are people like me who have a slight bad reaction to it - bad enough to seriously limit the amount of time I can wear it at any one stretch, or custom order Ammo in other scents now the “World Edition” scent is no longer offered
However, despite all this, I can’t deny that it is a highly effective diffuser - possibly the best AD offers and it really helps get results from the Pheros.
Ammo’s scent is FF21 at 10%, not the Neroli (orange blossom) 6% of the other Instants and TUTH, so it is much more of a standalone cologne that has a fresh clean scent that has been strongly likened to Creed’s Green Irish Tweed and has astringent qualities similar to Cool Water, which is also pretty popular.
Really your only option is to try it yourself to see and if you don’t get on with it/get results, make use of AD’s excellent warranty and return it. They are extremely good this way.
