Official MX413 discussion thread, men: neroli A1 replacement at work and on the GF

What is MX413?

MX413 is the one from MX412-413 package.

This pair of MXs are experiments to replace A1/Androstadienone. This formula is designed so that it does not cause the reported A1-depression, while still being comforting.

MX412 - Lightly fragranced with akuto.
MX413 - Lightly fragranced with neroli.

Note: This product does not contain Androstadienone.

Status: Currently In Production

Get MX413 here:

Quote from original Release Thread July 20th, 2011]:

How to Test:

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength- How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

Length of Effects - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

Tenacity - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

Effectiveness & Consistency - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

Diffusion/Sillage - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS
Research Assistant
Androtics Direct

MX413 2.5x sides of neck
Venue: Work

I had a really surprising results from this.

I met with my boss, and my boss’ boss. I was extremely late for work, I had a meeting I didn’t tell him about and I was away from my office and he looked like an idiot in front of his boss.

So anyway I knew the licking was coming, I was in for it and I would probably get cursed out like the other guys on my team who messed up, yeah the new management is like that.

Well here comes the good cop bad cop routine, these guys probably think I was born yesterday and their corporate psychological tactics would work. After my immediate manager complements me, tells me how I’m one of the most talented guys on his team, I’m sharp and knowlegeable, he goes I’m selling myself short.

Cue second manager.

I braced myself and he asked me questions on why I was looking at other firms, and how that is a red flag for him because I’m looking at other places.

Long story short, he set expectations he has of me, and he set expectations I can have of him. He said he will work with me to make me excell and left on on pretty good terms. I was still shaking my head by the time they left, I thought it would have went a lot worse.

MX413

Been testing MX413 for the last few days mainly on the GF, she responds extremly well to A1 so I was really interessted in seeing how 413 would affect her.

Things did’nt really start differing from baseline until I reached 4 sprays, I also started to notice self effects at this dosage which she seemed to be mirroring.

Bearing in mind we are still very much in the honeymoon period at the moment so this is also a big factor to take into account.

Effects noticed off Baseline or more Intense then usual

A strong need to be close to one another

We Both became much more tactile, stroking each others arms, face, hair

Locked eyes, for sometimes a few minutes without speaking a word

If we where holding hands she would every so often squeeze it really tight and let out a little groan.

It Almost was like we where in our own little bubble, the rest of the world did’nt matter.

Time went by really quickly and niether of us wanted to go to sleep at the end of the night

Sex was very slow, gentle, passionate.

The same feelings seem to transfer over into the morning and subsequently she was late for work :smiley:

So is MX413 a viable replacement for A1?
At this early stage of testing it is difficult to say if this is worthy of taking the place of A1 in my arsenal, but I definitley see great potential.
The only thing I did’nt like was It made me feel a little too comfortable, it seemed to kill the conversation slightly and relaxed us a little too much, another thing was that she referred to me as cute on more then one occasion so Im wondering if this is making me come off as a bit vunerable or child like.

Will keep you all updated

MX413

2 sprays

Neck & wrists

Okay, so I’ve tried this now up to 2 sprays each time. Always either inside a car or house. I can say that everytime I have tried it, and kinda of closeness I feel with said girl. Now One is my sublet and the other my friend. both 20’s and white. It feels very similar to IH in a way or betanol. I still have half a 5ml bottle left so I’ll continue to try it, but so far It seems like a pretty good sub for A1, except I don’t really see anything sexual about it.

Cross-posting this paragraph from my journal, regarding MX413:

“So a word about A1 vs MX413 - and I should really post this in the mix reporting forums as well - MX413 has a very similar effect on the surface, in my opinion. It’s not exactly the same, like (for lack of a better description) it’s roughly the same form but you can kind of feel where the seams are. It’s very close in that sense, though - and it doesn’t seem to affect my friend who gets all weird around P130 very much, although I’m told people suspect that it’s in there. That said, A1 does seem to go deeper - extends the effect further into the back of my mind. Again, I’m not a fan of this imprecise language but I simply lack the words. A1 used to make me depressed, I was one of those who had that problem with it. I’ve been using some A1 lately because I’ve been around a few girls who have been having trouble with their ladycycles. It has been fantastic for that. Ultimately, I think for most people’s purposes MX413 is a perfectly fine substitute for A1. It’s a little ‘brighter’ and I suspect the spectrum of effects might be slightly more unisex, but I don’t really think this is a problem.”

Hi all,
I’ve been testing mx412 and 413 for months now and absolutely disappointed, doesn’t seem to have any effect at all, even self effects.
I’ve just ordered some A1 to compare.

Cheers

Hi, Guys,
I’d forgotten all about the mx412/3 mix Until I stumbled upon them the other day. After the disappointment of them I’ve decided to vamp them up with NPA and A1 in different measures and mixes , just to give them a kick.
It’s going to take a while to test, ill report as I go.
Cheers