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Well hello, community!
So first of all I would like to say WOW on how fast the package got here! literally 24 hours since i ordered Ammo and TUTH. I havent had much chance to test the products out yet since I went on a shooting trip with some college buds =]

But simply based on the principle of how fast the items got here, Im going to order IO and IH since the shipping was amazingly quick, and a personal thank you and chocoalte bar from the shipper, THANK YOU SIR! Although I had troublew reading your hand writing =/

Anyways more me! Im a 23 yr old college grad living in tx, Hispanic, decent looking and decently fit, getting ready to go back to grad school. Ive never really had any problems befriending the opposite sex (girls) but always seem to have trouble going beyond the friend zone. Im the guy that stays quiet unless I have something relevant to say. Im usually very eliquent with my words and dont talk like i have the mental capacity of a 12 year old. Once the ice is broken usually women open them selves up easy. But I still feel like there is this untapped potential that I have yet to see. Thats why I am trying pheramones. Iv tried others off amazon with little to no success. Although I beleive they work but more on that later.

Anyways, so far I have TUTH and AMMO. I actually think they smell amazing! Not quite like other fragrances I have but rather welcoming, very subdle.The funny thing is, ive smelled thses before from other men wearing them, no I know their secret :wink: But yes I quite like the smell especially of ammo. Next weekend my friends and I are planning a trip to Luisiana for our birthdays and planning on hitting up the casinos and clubs there. That will be my ultimate test of this stuff. But I also want to get me some IO and IH just to have around casually. Wish me luck ladys and gents, this is going to be a make or break on the pheramone theory for me!

But as I said before I do beleive that pheramones work to some degree, why? Well a few weeks ago an ex-gf and I went to a movie. Even though we arent together anymore, the friendship is still there and we occasionally, once a month or so, hang out at a movie or some other event. Well the last time we did I ordered a pheramone from Amazon, (I wont say which unless someone asks) and tried it out. Before this even however I had tried it on at other place and saw almost no reall effect on the women around me. I figured that it was a dud. But when thew Ex and UI hung out something was different. She seemed very relaxed, very very flirty, moreso that usual. When she got cold i offered her my jacket to use as a blanket, when she took it she smelled it and smiled and commented on how good it smelled (it was a mix of pheramone and PacSun Issue no.1 Platnium). When she took a wiff, it was basicly a direct hit of the pheramone and thats when things go even weirder. When the movie ended we both made way for her car and she was saying how she hopes she doesnt slip since it had been raining. She then proceeds to play slip from 6 FEET AWAY FROM ME and comes all the way back so I can catch her. She even turned completely around from the direction she was walking so i could “pretend” catch her. WheN I did, I held on to her and she held on too. She didnt quickly recover herself but rather still stayed on me. At that point I didnt know what to do. So I did nothing =
I took her home and we went seperate ways. But something about what she did just struck me weird. We had been physical why we were together but this was just something friends dont do ya know??

Maybe she was just being a dork, or maybe she really felt something as a side effect.

But since ive heard so much about the Androtics line I thought WTH whats there to lose besides a couple bucks. Worth a shot right???

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Hi there,

Yup,androtics ships their products ridiculously fast(^^)Thats cool that your going to order more.The quick shipping and personal thank you is always a nice touch.Can understand the trouble with the friend zone,lots of people get stuck in it(><)The smell is definitely nice,ammo in particular is one of my favourites too(^^)Sounds like your trip to luisiana will be fun,even more so with pheromones(:-p) The IO and IH will probably help in quite a few situations also.Might consider some instant shine also,it goes well with everything(^^)

Cool about when you used your pheromones with your ex-gf.Its usually the people who are closer to you and have feeling that will be the most noticeable since pheromones tend to boost feelings that are there more than make them appear.That sounds like it was very interesting though(:-p) Definitely worth a try with the products here.Your intro was awesome so would wait for mickaelia to issue your gift certificate in a day or two.All the best and looking forward to hearing more of your adventures with pheromones since im sure they will be interesting(^_^)

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Hey MclarenMercedesF1, good to see you introduced yourself. I think you’ll have fun with what you ordered. Yeah sometimes like what you described with you ex she was testing your chemistry. Perhaps to see if there was something more there? I would have looked her in the eye to see if she was playing when catching her. Life’s meant to be fun!

I’m thinking IO would be good for you to brake the ice, but also some IG could give you a bit of a confidence boost along with attracting women from a mature and respectful way. Some women prefer IG over none products like Ammo so its good to have both and see what works with your style. :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the replys all =] Im going through the rest of the forums now to learn the in and outs of being a complete and utter noob to it all. but TwistedOstrich, whats the difference between a none-product and a… non-none-product??? lol

Yea the Ex thing deffinently threw mw for a loop but I dont knwo why I didnt test the air a bit more. But your right Twisted, Life is meant to be fun! Ill remember that next time i see her =]

Well If I am worth of the $25 coupon hopefully i can get it soon, my trip is this friday and I really really want to order it ASAP, but ill wait till atleast tuesday to order. But 99% sure im getting IO, IH, and IG =] Any other recommendations?

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Ah yes, Ammo, TUTH and IJ contain mostly none, its a dominant sexual male signature. Some women and to a larger extent older or more sexually comfortable women are drawn to them. Meanwhile younger women appreciate approachability and comfort such as the socials provide like IO, IH, IS.. IG and A314 are for respect.. MX297 is more of a social magic sort of test mix

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Hi again,

Thats cool that your looking through the forums.Thats always a good idea to get the best effects from the stuff youve got(^^)None products are products that contain androstenone like ammo and tuth.Sometimes if your younger,its easier to overdose on those products and if the girl is younger she can be more sensitive to it.In those cases the products that are androsterone based like IG and A314 may be better.IO,IH and IG are all good products and should serve you well(^^)Some of the users on the forum like the ammo and instant shine combo as well.Up to you though,all the products can actually be used stand alone and dont really need to be mixed(>_<)All the best and dont hesitate to ask if you want to know anything.

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Twisted, have you used MX297? If so, how has it worked out for you???

And Looifookmang, thanks for the advice as well :slight_smile: by your definition, what age range is young??? Therefore what age range may be more resistance to none- products?

Oh and sorry, dont mean to bump this thread with responses, if I need to move this convo to thother thread I will. =]

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They have some new advanced stuff coming out, including an enhanced mx297.. but its best that you play with the consumer stuff while you’re learning, that way you won’t be waist full with it.. if you give feedback on the forum and have a journal they give you discounts on the advanced stuff, so wait for that :slight_smile:

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Nah,its quite okay to use this thread for responses.Although you will get more replys in the mens forum.Hmm,young would probably be girls in high school or college.They tend to go for older more mature guys which androsterone gives out.There are exceptions to that though.Depends on the girl.I find ammo works really well with my girlfriend whos in college but it tends to be easier to od so have to keep it around 1-2 sprays unless i buffer it.

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Twisted, good idea, Ill be sure to write up a full sitrep after the trip this comming weekend. Ill hopefully have alot to play with and will have plenty of good news to share (god willing)

Loo, Good call on the age thing, thats what I was thinking but wanted to be sure as well. Thankds again, and as stated above ill start a new thread when I have evals to report.

Thanks again you guys! Already seems like a very awesome community, cant wait to see where this goes =]

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Pretty interesting discussion going on here.

You have probably gathered that the Ammo will be the most versatle tool you have purchased so far. After that - for me - it would be the IH.

I will tell you to be a little careful with the Ammo - do not go overboard with the sprays. You are young and Hispanic - meaning that you probably have some pretty decent 'none levels going on naturally.

Which also means you really want to be careful with the TUTH. It gives off a pretty raw sexual signal which can often scare away or turn off women with a horn dog vibe. Plus too much 'none on a guy can get some aggressive reactions from some guys. So I would carefully consider when and where you use it. In fact you might consider holding off until you do get some IO or IH to buffer it with. The sexual message will still come through but at least it will seem a little friendlier.

Again - welcome to the forum.

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Haha we produce alot of none- naturally? Well that explains…nvm good point though lol never thought of that. But ill heed to your advice.

AND I CANT BELIEVE I FORGOT THIS OTHER STORY!!!

Ok so for new years eve one of my buddies invited me over to his appartment to hang out with him, his gf, and his gf’s sister. Being that my buddies gf is very very pretty I knew her sister would be just as pretty. So I arrive in town and meet them at a restaurant near by. I meet the sister and we hit if off pretty well. (Also I had just applied the pheromone mention before, its a none based oil.) We go back to my friends place and decide to play some video games and loosen up a bit by drinking a few beers, wine, and other assorted liquors. Everyone is already loosened up and its about 2 hours till midnight so we decide to head to the bar for the midnight countdown to the new year. Long story short midnight comes, the sister hardly seems interested, I go in for a new years kiss, and then!!! BOOM rejected =/

Apparently this girl was plain and simply not interested. Despite the positive exeperience I had in the past with the pheromone, it seemed either this girl simply didnt respond to it, or its nothing more than vegetable oil.

But wait theres more…

After about an hour past midnight we decide to play pool at the bar. My buddy recognizes a friend of his from school and says hi. He introduces me to her we say hey but shes too covered up by two other duche licks that i dont really get a chance to work my skill. But as Im about 5 feet way from her I keep seeing her look over at me. We very plainly made eye contact multiple times. Not just involuntary but clearly her eyes were aiming for me. And mind you this girl is a knock out. The kind of girl you see in the american pie movies and fantasize about afterward. But still bumbed that the sister didnt respond, and coupled with the fact that the new girl was covered up by two other guys, nothing else became of that.

BUT WAIT THERES STILL MORE!

The night begins to die and we al head back to my friends appartment. My buddies gf says her other friend is headed over since she had now where to go on new years (even though its past midnight already). Shortly later she arrives. Now i had met this girl before, very quite reserved, but cute, intelligent and soft spoken but you also know that this girl has a vixen living inside her. Imagine that cute hippy art major girl in college boom there ya. When we first met we talked alot, I walked her to the local store so she could buy some cigarettes and walked her home. Gave her a really long hug and number and went home. That was before!!! But this time when she came over we started talking. I got up to get a beer and stood in the kitchen for a bit watching everyone play a card game. She suddenly out of nowhere for no reason comes up to me and begins talking.

“Hey how have you been??!!! You look good!”

She gives me a kiss on the cheek as I tell her how pretty she looks tonight and as she compliments me back I kiss her forhead. We both then sit down as everyone begins to pass out and start talking more. I quickly excuse my self to go put on more pheramones and when i return I decide that I want to kiss her for no reason. Maybe it was a do or die moment for me. Or maybe I was just drunk. I kiss her for about 10 seconds before she says she need to go. I quickly get up apologize if i made her uncomfortable and tell her please to let me walk her home (its 3:00am at this point) and she agrees. On the way we talk about how I walked her home last time, our current situations withother people and finally arrive at her house. I again apologize to her for making her feel akward to which she replies “no its ok really” Smiles at me gets really close and I cant remember exactly how it happened or who made the first move but next thing I know we’re making out again. And I mean MAKING OUT. Full on tonsil hockey. I had wanted to kiss her from the moment I met her and i couldnt help it that my hands wanted to explore her body. They started to and again me trying to be a gentlemen apologized for grabbing her, she says “its ok” in a very seductive voice and i continue to feel her curves figuring if she wants me to stop she’ll tell me. After about 10 minutes of making out in the 30 degree texas air I ask her if I can walk her in. She with out hesitating says yes, we go to her room, make out more and more and more and mysteriously items of clothing begin coming off. Shes down to bra and panties, Im down to boxers. I start kissing her all over her body lower and lower, belly, neck, arms, legs inner thigh, and purposley begin to tease her. But we had said before we took it to the bed that we couldnt go beyond that. We were there for 3 hours tasting nearly all her body, and cherishing every bit of it. It got to the point where she flat out told me “I want you to put me down hard…” We both laughed a bit after but I told her we couldnt (I KNOW I KNOW THERE WAS MY WINDOW!!!) but I really do respect this girl and didnt want to be THAT GUY. After It was time for me to go she told me verbatim “Your the hottest guy ive ever been with.” Now i think Im a pretty decent looking guy but that comment literally made my year already lol. I told her she didnt have to say that but she insisted it was true. So ill take her for her word.

Conclusion of the story, mones seem to work on certain people clearly. Some women respond better than others. Oh did I mention the sister was 18 and the girl I hooked up with was 27? Maybe age really does play a factor in terms or response. Either way, the way the night ended literally came out of the blue. Never expected to ever ever get even close to what I did with the last girl. Im confident mones were a major player in this. I cant wait to see what the androtics mones do.

Sorry for the long post :slight_smile:

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Well I just placed an order for IO, IH, IJ, and IG. To go portions were the only ones available but atleast ill get to try them out soon!!! Ill repoort my tests.

But I still havent gotten my GC =

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Welcome to pherotalk Mercedes!

Wow! I hope you started a journal because this is good stuff that we need recorded and that others can benefit from.

I hope that you found that your gc was issued and if you still haven’t it please shoot me a pm.

Your gc was issued!:smiley:

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Thanks Hun :slight_smile: yes I did start a journal already in the men section. Will post an update tonight when I get to our hotel. It’s still too vague to gauge the results and not let a placebo effect manipulate my judgement. But again I’ll post later =] and thanks for the GC!