oh my good god! and a MONDAY?

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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After my initial testing of P78, I had dropped my roommate to a friends house and decided to cook up something I’ve been researching the hell out of.

I was researching the effects of some of the T series molecules after becoming intrigued with reports. Everything from the -none buffering aspects of TAC, to the TAL “your one of the girls” reports. This led me to ratios, and finding the best average dosages of the molecules I was interested in as reported by members here. In doing so I became inspired with Wildflowers stunning mix, after looking up info on Meo-est. Well, with THAT out of stock, I decided to do some tweaking on my own.

Credit for the base of this mix goes to Evolver, Wildflower, and Snoopyace!

The mix I used is:

P83 37.5 mcg
B-nol 52.5 mcg
TAC 22.5 mcg
TAL 7.5 mcg
none 7.5 mcg

Those are the final applied dosages after applying 3 sprays. One shared between wrists, and one to either side of neck. Covered with CB I hate perfume wild hunt.

This mix now resides as a base for testing as 25ml in a standard 30ml blue spray bottle. DAMN this was expensive!

Rational?
I’m getting older, so I can play with higher dosage -none, and my persona doesn’t need much -rone (I get the “you’re so serious” thing as it is until you engage me), so I have the equivalent of 3 sprays of standard TUTH. THIS is now buffered with the TAC, which I read will ease the tensive edge off it, along with TAC’s other reported benefits. Perfect! Add back a bit of P83 (one of my staple favorites for the last year or so) to flesh out the masculinity to something more full. I always pair TUTH with P83. Neither feels like a full meal without the other… hell, I pair EVERYTHING with P83! Now add in the TAL, and maybe I will actually be INCLUDED in the girl-talk? perhaps? More info is ALWAYS better! Yes! Of course, none of this is any good without someone WANTING to talk to you in the first place… mmmm… B-nol! Screw WANTING to talk to me, you NEED to!

Ahem. yeah. so… that was the basic idea… but… I’ve layered and never mixed… and it’s a Monday… at a bar… eh. what the hey, at least I can chat up the bartender, I have decent friend rapport with her.

Walk in and order a beer. Strike up conversation with bartender. She’s a late-20’s caucasian, engaged, flirty because it’s her job… but views me less a customer and someone she would talk about OTHER customers to. I’ve always been the “relief” for bartenders it seems. Someone they know they don’t have to entertain, so I get used as a getaway when they need a break. That’s a huge compliment to me BTW.

Well within 5 minutes, somehow my ex is mentioned (they used to work together), and she just starts SPILLING the beans on all sorts of stuff. not in a overt overdose of IH sort of way, but in a very natural way. She KNOWS she’s doing it, she even mentions that she doesn’t gossip… and this is true and a well known and liked aspect of her. But it’s done in a very basic, but fun, open communicating way. My conversation with her was always perfectly…timed? no interruptions on anyones part, just fluid and natural. Very good overall mood. No NEEDING to get a point out. No frustrated urgency. Smiles all around.

Skip out for a smoke and pass an early 30-ish African-American woman with whom I used to flirt with. We DID have one night together, but that was over a year and a half ago… maybe more? Either way, hadn’t seen her in a bit. She’s talking with a few women next to her, and grabs my arm as I walk past. She pulls me in for a hello hug and a kiss on the cheek… pulls back, holds me by my arms kinda just looking at me… then kisses me full on the lips. Not too heady, just a bit more than a peck though.

Outside smoking… she walks out… looks straight at me and exclaims “My god you are so pretty”. Um.. yeah.. I flushed a bit :o. We spoke again for a second, then I headed back to my seat.

OK… NOW she comes sliding BACK over to me (I’m at the full other end of this place), and essentially asks me, in a VERY clipped and shy way (NOT like her! She’s VERY sure of herself and in control) if I would mind posing for her… as a model.. for drawing… implied nude… while she is literally looking me up and down and being VERY overt. Grasping my arms, and essentially sizing me up and remarking on the way the fabric of my shirt lays across my chest. All the while at this, My face is flushing HARD. Not the embarrassed flush… but the “OMG I may have OD’d on -none” phero-rush flush. Well, I didn’t say a damn thing.. but SHE starts just laughing and fanning her face :smiley:! remarks that she’s flush! HA! Possible making of rapture as far as I can feel, and the world is slowly closing off around us, total focus on one another… I DO pull back though to ask one simple question with a wry smile, never breaking eye contact. “Isn’t that you’re boyfriend over there”. OK. not only does that not break her train, she wants me to come join them all for drinks! I respectfully decline, and she takes my phone and types her number into it before rejoining her friends.

Another drink, been oh, two hours now, same type of conversation with the bartender as before… possibly a bit more open. Had two more smokes outside… KINDA may have gotten the evil-eye from the boyfriend. I make it known through my actions that I am in no-way a threat to their relationship and have zero intention on doing so. Either way, she leaves at some point… I see him texting a lot… then she’s back in a half hour and they’re both gone… looking non-too-pleased either! uh oh.

Well, about to tab-out and leave when an old friend and her two new friends walk in. After a brief hello and hug, she pulls me around and DEMANDS that I join them at a table, telling me they are having a girls night out! Umm.. TAF perhaps? either way, I am laughing myself silly inside! After much cajoling I join them. Actually, she had me bring one of the drinks over to the table as her hands were full. When I set it down, she had grabbed my coat and drink and was bringing it to the table! sneaky little minx!

The bartender kept calling me a “wanted man”:stuck_out_tongue:

Well, the rest of the night went very well, I was being pushed toward one of the women that was single, even though I did make mention that even though I am single, I AM emotionally involved with a few friends that I’d like to see where thing go. The one woman with a boyfriend made it known straight away that she had a boyfriend… but treated me in a way that made me think she was saying it to reassure HERSELF on that fact. I gave all three a ride home, and was eventually teased about possibly cooking breakfast for the last girl… and she’s a Chef! I did give her a hug and a kiss on the cheek (she made a move for lips, but I can’t lead anyone on… knowingly. been there on both sides. sucks). She then took my phone and called her cell with it so I would have her number! yes, two in one night, one a complete stranger. She paused and said how nice that was (a peck on the cheek?)… kinda just looked at me. Not sad.. perhaps a true DIHL. Then almost RAN out of the car to her door. She did text me soon after asking if I had made it home alright.

Conclusion:
well, only one test so far… but man, I like this! it’s really congruent to my demeanor. I did NOTHING for what happened. I actually worked against it. Everything felt smooth and conversation was never forced. It was almost movie-dialogue perfect at times. I usually get flustered and mix words. Not this night. The underpinnings of a deep, locked, sensuality were definitely there, but all the aspects seem to be able to be controlled for when appropriate. Now, aside from Mr. Boyfriend, I hadn’t interacted with any males… save for one guy who sat next to me at the bar earlier. I was calm and cool and collected and happy.. he was fidgety, and kept looking my way. I KNOW he wanted to say SOMETHING. ANYTHING… but I just kinda let my eyes glaze over and chilled. Finally someone spoke on the other side of him and he damn near exploded into animated conversation with them, pulling the bartender in as well. Also, the bartender was complaining of being tired and having a bad-ish day when I first came in, by mid evening I saw zero trace of that. I just felt so in control with this. Usually a dose of Honesty will kick my butt and I’ll fall on my own sword, but not tonight. no-sir. Felt very openly focused the whole time.

One thing, I kept correcting my posture. I know if I wore A314, my back would damn near hurt from being so straight. Now, I wasn’t slouching by any means, but I kept NOTICING that I was not standing true. weird.

I’m real tempted to go out and try this again tonight. I’d like to explore a bit of the male interaction side to make sure I didn’t really screw up… after all, I have a big dang bottle of the stuff. I DO however have some P78… perhaps I’ll add one spray of that. I also have a dilution of 2 drops EoW in a 30ml… but I have very specific people to try that with whom I KNOW are bisexual, but have been seeking me out as of late.

alright, screw-it I’m going out again! :roll_eyes:

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SiX!!!
You made a terrific mix. I am truly impressed with it’s synthesis of ideas and choice of pheromones. I think you have a winner here. You’ve done the mathematics, now it all comes down to enjoying the biology of the mix :smiley:

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THANK-you! you are to kind!

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Wow man, that’s a really great report, sounds like a damn fun night too!

I’m new to pheromones but have had amazing results with just the commercial products.

When you said you didn’t do a damn thing to get the results and actually worked against it. I could totally relate. That’s what the amazing nights and reactions I’ve had have felt like.

I can’t wait until I get more experience and can try mixes out like this.

But wow, reading things like this and seeing the results I have gotten, makes me really wonder if all the “pick up” stuff is just speculation. And if this is why natural ladies men and alphas - even the popular kids in high school get the results they do??

Cool stuff !

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OK. just got back from the bar after testing this mix again, but added one spray of P78. Well, I DID want to test this in reaction to other males… and well, aside from the bartender, it was a total sausage party, ha! :roll_eyes:.

The bartender I know, and am friendly and flirtatious with… but she was having an off day, and greeted me so, plus her boyfriend whom she derides to me was planted dead in the center of the place, kinda dissuaded even playful innuendos. That’s fine… still got two free drinks out of tonight though! :slight_smile:

The main thing, and I’ll make it quick as I’m dead tired, is the male interaction. It was fine. perfect. No gay vibes, just plain great conversational. Again, it was the kind of conversation where everyone gets the point out, but no interruptions, not lost ideas, just perfect flow…

The only person I was talking to… for three hours and wouldn’t shut up :smiley:, turned out to be an ex Air Force intelligence officer! Good conversation all around… and I have to be honest, I was enlightened on a few things I never thought of… but there is real possibility that this man spilled the beans on information still not fully declassified. He even mentioned that, but didn’t seem to care as we were in a fully trusting conversational banter. Even made motions to buy me a drink, but I politely declined.

So yeah, it definitely held an upright mood, and good conversational flow, with allot of immediate trust.

I wonder… how many of the forum members here are CIA? It would be really naive to think that any influence tech such as this would go under the radar of such facilities.

just sayin’ :wink:

sweet dreams all, I’m off to lala land!

Oh… btw, it put me in such an approachable place, that I was given basic opening happy conversation by a gentleman I am not on good terms with for personal reasons. Very much like he saw this as an opportunity to slide into my good side since everything seemed, or felt, so “all right”. Interesting.

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Update:

So… I’ve been using this mix in it’s three-spray format a few times a week now… what I’ve seen steadily is basically just an “intensifying” effect of situations, steered toward good aspects. In other words… definitely not an out-and-out sexual response getting mix.

Reactions from strangers have been positive as far as conversation, demeanor, etc. I did get some responses of strangers simply wanting to engage in polite conversation (more than usual), whereas if I was not in the mood, I could turn the situation down with a smile, and it was never taken as an affront, nor was it pushed. I feel really “even” i guess I could say, wearing this mix. Conversation, when I’m into it, is still effortless and almost “scripted” smooth, if that makes any sense.

The fun starts to show when someone actually already has an interest (sexual or otherwise), as this seems to ramp things into a new realm for me.

I had another invite to the “girls night” from my previous posting. Once again, it was great, and this time the woman that had shown interest in me was playing text message games with me while I was in the bar not feet from her :slight_smile: . Fun little quips, such as when I was getting a drink to come back to the table, I feel a buzz, flip my phone open and read; “silly boy, and now your so far away”. Lots of under table foot/calf rubbing/resting while I was next to her to. The other two girlfriends kept eyeing me and smiling, then whispering into each others ears… Granted, they were trying to set me up with this woman, but rarely before I began using pheromones would have such a blind meeting/date have gone so smoothly.

That evening ended when a male friend of the woman I was with had shown up, a bit drunk. I stepped out for a cigarette and was introduced to this new friend. One of the other women told me as an aside “it looks like your evening resolved itself, sorry”. Eh, no big deal, I came out with no intentions or expectations, so I made my à deux, and left.

Moments after I was in bed, I began getting text messages from this woman to come back. “save her”, and join all three for a nightcap at her place. Nice evening all around :slight_smile:

Now, I’ve noticed a lingering “imprinting” effect from this mix. My roommate, since I’ve began using this around her, has been much more calm, at ease, and does not shy from me if I casually/playfully put a hand on her waist/shoulder or the like. We used to be much MUCH closer, but something had changed in the last year and there was tension between us, and not the good kind. I really thought this mix was going to have a more sexual spark to it, but it seems to be much more… mellows not the word… either way, I’m glad that even without wearing it, the lingering effects seem to be slowly imparting trust and affection back into my friendship with my roommate.

LAST NIGHT:***
I get a call from a woman 13 years my junior. A small, EurAsian woman blessed with a lithe dancers body. Honestly, I’ve eye-fucked this woman upon meeting her months ago, but never thought for the life of me she would ever want my conversation past “nice weather”, let alone my company.

For some reason, she has sought ME out several times now. I’ve never worn pheromones around her, and I’ve even apologized after being out with her, as I’ve not been my more energetic and flirtatious self. I did not want her to think I was uninterested, as this woman is off the charts in intelligence and beauty. So we’ve hung out, but she seems to come to me as almost like hanging out with a female business partner. Flirtatious, yes, social, yes, but the honesty, forthrightness, and matter-of-fact speech pattern (a low voice too… yum) just put off such an unreadable vibe I couldn’t wrap myself up in it.

Last night I dose myself with three sprays of the above mix, hoping it would loosen things up a bit. TO THIS, I added 3 sprays of diluted copulins (2 Eow drops in 30ml), as she is a true practicing bisexual, she was very upfront about this… I also added two sprays of MX291, a freebie from my last order. I tested this once or twice briefly, and it seems to be a very alpha dominated male mix, much like A314, but with more a demanding vibe, and produced allot if inner dialogue when used alone consisting of my ire being brought up about little issues. not as buffered as A314… Anyway, I digress. I added this even untested as it is as I felt that my base mix may have been to heavy on the TAC, and I wanted to push a sexual edge this night. I have done three sprays of TUTH before, and gotten away with it, so being older, I think I over-buffered my mix. I also added 3 shots of P78 at 12.5 mcg per spray from a togo.

OH WHAT A FUN NIGHT. NOTHING clashed. We played pool, and had a few drinks. She was flirtatious, but not overly. When we would go outside to share a cigarette, we where consistently asked if we were together. Her answer was that “people are either on their way in with me, or on their way out… he is definitely on his way in” then she would wrap her arms in mine playfully.

Then it happened. On the way back in to finish our doubles pool game, she asks me if I’ve been tested. ? OH! well, long story short, she flat out proposes that we, as adults with needs, and not needing the game anymore, should discreetly be lovers. Consistently. Turns out, she’s essentially been sizing me up for this very purpose, and I guess this night made her decision. NO COMPLAINTS HERE. This may turn out very very well. And NOW I can test some of the pheromones in some more “heated” environments, on a regular basis it seems. We’ll see what happens, this story isn’t over yet, though I may have just taken myself out of the game for any other women I was pursuing… but I honestly could care less. Yes, she wants lovemaking. yes she wants cuddling into the night, and yes she wants breakfast. I’m good for all three!

OH, funny aside: that same night, we played pool with a few younger guys from out of town in a band… by the end of the night, one of the guys comments went from “you are the luckiest guy on earth” (remarking as to the woman I came with), and slowly changed over to “you smell so good”, and eventually, “if I was a girl I’d fuck you right now… actually, I would like to fuck you right now”! HAHAHA!!! WOW.:open_mouth::o

Weird mix I gotta say, if you’re not into me, it’s all fine, if you ARE… look-the-eff out.

till later my friends!:smiley:

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Six, nice mix. Nice reports. Reps. Keep it up.

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Another night, another date playing pool with my new friend. I’ll keep it brief except for the highlights…

Same mix, applied 3 sprays, added two sprays of dilute copulins, two sprays of P78 (25mcg total), two sprays of MX291. Covered with a base of CB I hate perfume Musk, and a topcoat of CB Wild hunt.

A lot of kino from my date. At one point a gentleman she had given her number to previously approached her. They had a brief conversation, in which she informed him she was on a date with me and it would be rude to interrupt (hmmm… possession trait? multiple exposure to the mix creating boyfriend vibe?.. simple politeness to the situation?). Either way, he left the building quickly.

Female bartender, whom I’ve never met in my life, seemed very happy to serve me. All smiles, and our rail gin and tonics wound up as Bombay Sapphire and tonics (the bartender insisted it was the same price as rail, who am I to argue!:cool:).

Wonderful conversation with my date. lively, very flirtatious, and at one point she remarked how incredible I smelled, and buried her nose in an application point of my neck. Apparently she was trying to distract me from a shot, and, in her own words, It was I who distracted her :slight_smile:. I also received an interruption with the comment of “you are so beautiful!” while we were face to face in conversation. Interesting, as this is not usual, and I’ve already had this comment once before using just the bare mix earlier with an African-American woman in my first post. I assume, since I have plenty of experience with -none and P83… perhaps the Tac and Tal have something to add to that? maybe the P83 and dose of B-nol helped to let that comment be blurted?

all in all, a wonderful evening.

I’ll keep reporting on this until the mix is gone, just so I have a recording as to everything, and maybe after rereading I’ll be able to see patterns of effects.

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3 sprays of mix. 2 sprays of p78 @ 12.5mcg each. 2 sprays of mx291.

Tired this night, just went out for a nightcap late. Not really in a talkative mood. End up sitting on the outside of a circle of friends, two of whom are gay males.

Patterns emerging:

Catlord was right about copulins… whenever I have worn them, even dilute as they are, any gay male friends really don’t have any interest in holding conversation much past a polite hello. Leave them out however, and friendly interest is almost immediately renewed. No overt sexual responses however from any of my gay male friends from the mix and layers I have been wearing, just allot of comfort and acceptance it seems.

African American woman from first post, and her boyfriend, sat down with us. Complete acceptance and politeness from boyfriend, even though at one point said woman turns to me and mentions that she still wants to have me sit for some drawings… and then says in a raised-eyebrow-rolling eye smirk; “in a t-shirt… and jeans… of course”. Interesting comment. At one point, I excused myself, and she whispers to me, “you’re stronger than this, you know”. I smile… but inside I am saying “um. what on earth does THAT mean?”. I really have zero idea what she was referring to. Almost like she continued an inner dialogue or conversation that we were not having in real life? Who knows, and I’m not asking. My mind is on my new Eurasian friend these days.

One other note, another African American woman sat to my right with some of her friends. I never saw her until she got up to leave. MASSIVE bedroom-eyes version of DIHL. She walks slow past our group, invades the circle, extends her hand, and asks me how I am doing. We exchange pleasantries, and she walks off slow, never breaking eye contact.

So… seems overt interest with this mix comes from women of color so far, at least for me. My roommate, a Caucasian of Irish decent, seems to be becoming at ease around me, and is OK with a kiss goodbye, and non-flirtatious kino is up. Getting my friend back it seems. Or perhaps she is seeing me in a new light now that others are giving an interest in me? In a way of remembering how close we once were, but now my eyes are for others, and perhaps missing that? Eh, I’ve always had problems seeing the forest for the trees when I’m in the middle of it.

Thought… I wonder how long I should still use copulins around my Asian interest? If we do end up becoming privately exclusive, then perhaps they should leave the equation…?