Bond is ordering soon and I just wanted to know if there are any products I should try or test out.
Eldros has suggested I try dirty, so that’s in the cart. I also have taa oil, spaceland, TAH, TAF, and p74 carted. Keep in mind these are for bond as well so anything that does not work on me will not be lost.
My main question is should I try dirty? Good idea or no?
Thanks all for the help 
at your age, why not try out Instant Gentleman? I’m 8 years older than you are and I find that I get good hits with it.
Dirty has -none and cops in it, and I’m not sure how smelling like sex will work for you, or how girls your age will react to that.
Then again, sometimes things don’t always work logically.
Sorry I did not say this earlier. I have a314, ammo, ig, ishine, ifm, ih, io, and cttm. I have just heard good reports from eldros about dirty, but he is a bit older than me. None the less he recomended that I try it.
Dirty? Really?
I mean, I’m sure Eldros knows his stuff, but… well, when I was in high school, I was always really put off by guys giving off that sort of vibe. If I knew a guy had ‘been around’, I’d want nothing to do with him. I even told a potential slutty buddy that I wouldn’t do anything with him if he had sex with his then-crush. That is to say, I didn’t want him unless he was a virgin, because I was a virgin too (as many of the girls in your school probably are). Maybe I’m not a normal case though. Oh well… this will at least give you a female perspective on the matter.
As far as what I’ve read about guy experiences, it seems very hit-or-miss, and really depends on how sexually open a girl is. At your age nymphomaniacs are pretty rare. Not that you should be looking for them, of course 
Smelling like sex might… might increase social status among your male friends, but the -none may alienate them as well. I just don’t think a copulin-laced product would really benefit someone your age. It seems… I don’t know. I would just personally advise against it.
Depending on the milieu, teenage guys will lie/embellish to look more like a player. I went to an elite public school, with lots of preps/jocks (kind of the same thing as many preps were into crew/golf/lacrosse), football players, and nerds (I actually had some jocks/preps as friends- I was a quiet nerd, I actually got along with them fine… some punk kids were the ones that harassed me)… but I digress. At my HS people seemed to be more religious or studious than what seems to be the norm, and generally only the punks and poorer kids cared about being a “player”, the rest were serious about their studies and seemed to meet people through church or their families friends. Football players seemed to be the exception, they liked to lord it over everybody and most of them seemed to like hanging out only with “popular” people.
Depending on your goal, I think building trust and ease with people would be better than trying to blow them over with androstenone. Being the alpha dog in highschool doesn’t mean crap. Alot of those football players are not doing much with their lives now days, and some of the real dorks/nerds, based on the reunion site I looked at, seem to be doing great. I think it’s better to just get along in highschool and work on having alot of friends rather than trying to dominate people- I have regrets about highschool but being higher up on the social hierarchy isn’t one of them.
You should enjoy highschool because it’s an easy time to make friends. It gets somewhat harder the older you get, people start shutting down and you don’t have all that ready access to people forced to socialize. Have fun, carpe diem .
Well, I have alot of nieces ranging in age from 16 to 30. I come from a big family 
Anyways there is one thing I notice about them. They always want what some other girl has so go with some dirty but be sure to learn to cover it correctly cause its a stinker.
The diffusion is slow because its a oil product so you wont have to worry to much about OD. You may find your guy friends are more competitive and aggressive.
Also remember your own hormones are not settled yet and wont be till your around 17 or 18 so what may work great one day wont always work at the same dosage the next. Thats one of the tough things about starting out so young with pheromones. On the bright side once your hormones settle down you will be an experienced pheromone guru 
The future looks bright asset
Tisha
thanks all for the help.
I was not for or against dirty. I really wanted some opinion and I got it
I will get dirty ( ) and practice with it on a weekend to find out how to cover it. I’m mostly hoping to use it at parties, but school as well.
Daedelus, my school is made up of the preps/jocks (me), guiedo/football players, and the nerd/not catogorized.
Ty tisha for the encouragement I just hope mones are not too popular by then
lol.
FYI, I see no ‘player’ effect with dirty. It could just be me though. If you’ve kept up with my journal, then you’d see that I’ve only gotten good results with Dirty. No negatives at all.
Has anyone even experienced a ‘player’ effect with dirty? Or are y’all just going on theories?
only one way to find out, right?
Daedelus offers very good advice. I wholeheartedly agree with what he said and feel the same way. I was actually a prep/jock (played lacrosse) but I kept a lot of different types of friends. I certainly didn’t care for any of the status games of the other jocks and don’t miss it at all. Just make friends, enjoy each day as much as possible. If that means getting in a bit of trouble, that’s fine, just don’t cripple yourselves or get in too much trouble with the law. Enjoy!
I think you guys already have a lot of pheros, but from what I’ve read, you might wanna try p83, p79 for sports (+TAF I imagine would be good), possibly some mx203 if you’re interested, or just get some p93 straight up.
lol.
FYI, I see no ‘player’ effect with dirty. It could just be me though. If you’ve kept up with my journal, then you’d see that I’ve only gotten good results with Dirty. No negatives at all.
Has anyone even experienced a ‘player’ effect with dirty? Or are y’all just going on theories?
And dirty doesn’t seem to increase competition with other guys. My guy friends are friendlier and other guys just stay out of my way. Seems to make girls gigglier.
Actually yes there are alot of reports submitted with the player effect in fact that is what dirty does. The forum is not the only place reports are submitted. As for me no I dont go on therory, I have alot of experience with pheromones and how they work. I also have two of the best trainers in the business SteveO and Jasmin.
Androstenone can cause competitiveness if you use to much but since dirty is slow diffusing it may not be as prominate as with the spray Androstenone products.
Tisha