I would very much like to hear from the folks over fifty and young at heart!
Our bodies are different from the teens and younger. What works for you and what type of “hit” are you looking for?
The younger ones are trying to figure out different questions than we are, I think.
hi buddy.. i’m not 50 or close but I know for a fact that the pheros you get will work just as good but you have to apply 3 to 4 drop in each spot where I only have to use 1 drop (being 20)… you can also get the stronger version of every phero that has different strenghts.. for example Turn Up The Heat 5mgc and Heavy Ammo instead of 1x ammo.. and that way you don’t have to use so many drops… hope it helps
Come on, that’s just not true! The optimal dose really depends on your goals, persona and body chemistry. What determines your body chemistry? Primarily your level of fitness & health, race, climate, hygiene and to some extent, age. So just because you’re older doesn’t mean you bathe in pheromones and call it a day.
Ask yourself, where do natural pheromones come from? Human males have certain pheromones in saliva, urine and sperm. While this is grand tootin’, it isn’t very significant unless you piss yourself or exchange bodily fluids. So even if androstenone in your urine diminishes with age, it’s a moot point. The most important pheromones, as far as attraction, both social and sexual, are concerned, are the pheromones on your skin. And all pheromones in your sweat or skin are created on the skin surface by interacting with bacteria. In other words, pheromones do not come out of your pores. Friendly bacteria make them. So if you live in Honolulu and shower every other day, you’ll be funky but rich in A-1, A-Androstenol and androstenone. And, believe it or not, I smell plenty of natural androstenone on old men in walkers! Of course if you shower twice daily like I do you probably have very little pheromones on your skin.
I’ll state for the record most of my doses are pretty close to typical for social and comfort pheromones. I don’t need 4 or 5 times more. I’ve always been able to wear higher doses of androstenone than most White and Black folks but I believe it has more to do with being a mellow East Asian male than being an OF.
And yeah, I still own about 5000 LPs, even have a record vac, so I’m gettin’ into the late summer but still stickin’ it to the man.
I’m over 50 as well and suspect I can OD on androstenone just as easily as a 25 year old…
But experimentation is key. Your individual body chemistry etc is going to affect how pheromones react on you.
Personally right now I’d stick wtih the more or less standard off the shelf stuff, not the experimental mixes (MX series) although some of the putative products may do you well (I personally am a fan of P74 aka Instant Boyfriend/Girlfriend). Get a selection of the ToGo products and see how you feel about each. The only catch with the ToGos is they are almost too small to give you enough applications to really test them out fully, but there is enough to get a “feel” for each of the products. Plus the bottles can be refilled and are easy to carry for on the spot use.
I’m also a “minimalist” and suggest you start out with small doses of each. But be warned it may take days or weeks of observations (or months…) to start picking up on any effects.
Although not available in ToGo size I’d suggest you give A314 a shot too. It’s the suaveness of Sean Connery’s James Bond in a bottle, but you have to act the part too.
You dont need 4 or 5 times more LOL. You can get away with using the double products when your over 40 because most men over 40 make slightly lower amounts of anone but at 4 or 5 times your sure to OD just like the younger guys.
So I would suggest if you get say AMMO or TUTH and your 40 or over to get double. Your sure to use more then one spray of the regular strength and it will be more cost effective for you. If you do happen to be one of those people who needs alot then this also cuts down on overscenting.
On a younger guy, smetimes they need only one spray and its hard to get a half spray out of a bottle so they are better off starting with regualr strength.
Other then that every product that works for the younger people cant work just as well for the older people. In fact sometimes I think it works better for the older people. They have experience and maturity on there side and can work the products better.
glad to see the discussion taking some shape!
i’m pretty outgoing anyhow and am more or less used to having things go my way, but there is always room for experimentation and I’m excited about this project.
I am a little self conscious about over-dosing, so when I have a fair amount on, i sit more away from other people to see what’s happening.
i can’t really say that I have goals with the pheros, just curious how i/others react.
by the way, I only have about 3,000 albums and, of course, the record vac without which there is no hope for old vinyl. just picked up a killer phono cable…more later
Ah yeah, you shouldn’t really be self-conscious about anything because it will affect the image you project, the congruency, body language, etc.
I was self conscious about the weird scents at first, and I think that stopped me getting so many hits, but now I am not concerned in the slightest.
The only really bad OD effects seem to me to come from -none, so try a -none free mix and don’t worry about ODing. And come up with a cover story should anyone ask about the unusual scent you’re wearing. But in all probability no-one will
Vinylsound, I wouldn’t worry too much about using a little of your turn up the heat, because i am only several years older than you, and i usually apply around 20 mcg of Androstenone 4 days of the week, and have been doing so for several years.
The only neg comments i get is from my girl when i give her a direct close up whiff of the application area before i cover it with love potion perfume or cologne.
I have also gone through deveral bottles of Alpha A314 and i find that two drops per application suits this gentleman ( me ) very nice for good all round effective results with male and females.
Seeing as i do not need pheromones to attract women sexually, i usually go for feel good mixes ect, so as to enhance my all round communications, I have had plenty of good fun and some amazing conversations when i have been phero enhanced.
I would reccomend some Alpha A314 like a couple of drops with a few sprays of CTTM 2, or Instant Openess.
You still have to work out what quantitys will give you best overall results and it does take a little time but is well worth the exploration.
As an example if i use over 2 drops A314 then i start to receive ultra respect but i lose the feel good approachability factor, The first time i wore 3 dr A314 and couple drops NPA at night club many girls thought i was hot stuff but out of their reach as i found out as time progressed, and they had few drinks and approached me, or there were groups of two or three come and start talk cheeky with me.
I was about your age then and i usually went out alone when prowling.