Found a hidden little bag of Togo bottles I hadnot seen for some time. Pulled one out and it was p103. Why not start with this one. I put 6 sprays between my wrists and left for a dinner party.
As I walked to the meet-up spot I noticed a few self effects.
very aware of everything around me in a calm and in control way.
I was happy and optimistic. Usually I tend to get that stray "what it goes wrong thought in my head. This time I couldnt think that way if I tried.
I felt a little uninhibited.
So I met with my American friend and we took a taxi together. The conversation(which for us is already pretty spontaneous) was turned up a notch. I guess I can’t describe it any better than saying my American english A game was on. He was on too so I can only assume he was at affect of the p103.
During the meal(about 2 hours After the first application) I added 3 more sprays. After the meal was done I took some notes down in my phone.
super uninhibited
more unfiltered thought escaping unchecked
brings out my good side
I love this stuff
completely not outcome dependent
ready to party
As far as effects on others go, no extra focus was on me. Everyone was enjoying what I said a little more and it felt like I was joking around with old friends even though many of them I only met that night.
Overall I’m very pleased I get to test this molecule again. Great future this one may have.
Went out with 6 sprays split between my chin and wrists(togo sprays)
Ok all the self effects were the same except maybe a little less pronounced.
2 additional things of note:
has anyone else noticed a leadership feeling to p103? No one was stumbling to get out of my way or anything but when it came to decision time everyone sort of sheepishly awaited my decision. Nothing overt but it was definitely different than it was before. One guy in our group has typically always been looked to for the lead and the last to days its been more of a co-leadership. And its not like it was a coup or anything, but it is definitely noticeable.
this part has some关系(relationship) with the first one. Ok some backstory. After I switched language schools here in shanghai last winter I didnt know anyone and I met the guy I described as the group leader above. Long story short he brought me in to all of his friends. Its always felt a little like I’m just the tag along since then. I mean we all get along well but if that guy wasn’t going I probably wouldn’t be invited. Or that’s how it felt anyway. I’m not sure it was ever an actual theme. Anyways. As of the last 2 nights. That gut feeling vanished. It was as if I was unanimously accepted as a full member of the group.
So p103 (not final) results.
-Mood lifter
-allows people to just go with the flow or possibly wait for the wearer’s flow.
-The feeling of ‘in the momentness’
-trust builder/friendship tightener
wearing dominant pheromones like none in clubs over-powers the hits i may or may not get from social ones like p103. the only thing i could really report on was self effects for which the dominant one was the lack of nervous outcome dependancy. other than that, i had some hits, but i would guess it was from the A314/TUHT combo. I guess I should report those.
We went to this club near my apartment, without really expecting there to be anyone there, as is so common in clubs outside of the center of the city. however, it was while not packed(no fire codes in china, so packed to me=lack of ability to move comfortably) it did have most tables and dance floor filled. Its the chinese holiday, so a wednesday night is a little better than usual.
we found a table, noticed we were the only white people there,and ordered some beers. within 5 minutes of sitting down i thought i felt someone touch my shoulder, but upon looking there was no one there. it happened a second time, but again no one there and i thought the guy walking by may have bumped me accidentally. a third time and the couple(late 20’s) at the table behind me was giggling both pointing at each other like “it was her/him, not me” so we gave them a ganbei (cheers) and returned to our conversation. the girl promptly came over to us and made us cheers again. then she leaned in to my ear(the music was loud) and told me, in english, “you are very handsome”. then smiled and went back to her table with her bf or husband. I never found out which one he was.
later on i offered them a beer, but they were leaving, and the woman came and kissed me on the cheek, and promptly left.
other than that some stranger things happened with my friends’ now (most likely soon to be ex) girlfriend, and to be honest aside from personal confidence, i don’t think that the pheromones played into that one.
so from the p103, the consitancy i saw was:
not an “i don’t care” attitude, but a “whatever happens, its going to be good. even if what happens now isn’t good, it will be good in the near future” that sort of thing. that was consistant over all three nights that i used it.
the other thing i learned is that Turn Up The Heat works on asians. it just needs some social phero buffering. yay!
Perronec good to see you posting again and nice reports! Your experiences with this molecule seem quite similar to that of others (see below). **
Have you noticed any kind of ‘sexual’ undertone to this molecule (I know you are wearing it with TUTH and A314 but do you think P103 adds anything in this department perhaps in a social, P74 type of way?) Also are you getting any kind of negative effects with P103 (namely energy crashes or negative mood intensification)?
The completely uninhibited effect that P103 can bring along with it…
alseides (April 27, 2007):
“ Thoughts on P103
…While out, I realized I was my typical giggly self, but I was saying and doing things without really thinking about them first, saying every single thing that came to mind (which I don’t usually do).
But anyway, all I can understand from P103 is that it picked me up, made me want to do things, and completely deleted any inhibitions I had for a little while. At the moment, I’m incredibly tired, and I have no idea why. Hmm…”
First thoughts on P103
alseides (April 28, 2007):
“ First thoughts on P103
Since the other thread was being “viewed by a moderator” and did not show up overnight, I figured I’d give it another go.
When I first thought of trying out P103 I was not feeling like going out, despite the fact that a friend wanted to go shopping (I’m usually ALWAYS up for shopping…). I wanted to stay home because I’m one of those critters whose mood is affected by the weather, and it was raining and very gloomy outside. I sprayed P103 three times to my neck and once to the top of my head, though I was going to put on a hat shortly afterward, and within minutes I was running around the house getting ready to leave and singing to myself all the while.
While actually out, I was saying everything that came to my mind. In public, I usually censor myself (not EVERYTHING that I think is, ahem, appropriate to belt out in a shopping mall), but with P103 I simply didn’t care enough to think before I spoke, which may be both a good and a bad thing. It really helped me let go of any inhibitions and have a lot of fun with whatever I was doing at the time.
…While on this putative, the friend and I devised a quirky plan to take a few buddies, get dolled up and go out to the restaurant where my punk works and spend the evening there, so I think it’ll be a perfect opportunity to test it out again.
I am so tempted to wear any of the other mixes I just got (Alphanol, Betanol, P79…), but I’ll see if I can control myself. ”
P103’s Optimistic/uplifting effect that Perronec commented on…
tacitus (March 20, 2007):
“ P103 is Phun ! Whee ! Mindless Happiness!
and you’ll hear no complaints from me… 25 mu of P103… and bear in mind I presently feel like a poorly enbalmed corpse no thanks to a late blooming influenza… came in today thinking, damn shite feel like doom and corrupt filth, opened my toybox from androtix, and squirted a shot of P103 on my wrist… no other thing… and yep, still feel like damn shite, but uplifted joyous damn shite… fairly sexless, no primal go go go in the lower chakrae, nor any pit bull gouch… well, the flu could be taking me down two or three notches on this count so don’t over-conclude… however, I’m grounded, maybe a tad giddy… feel like quickie enlightenment… Maharishi inna Bottle…”
Possibly confusing effects (possibly similar to Peronnec’s experience with the late 20’s couple at the table behind him…
Gone with the Wind (April 26, 2007):
“ P103
I tested out p103 today.
100 mcg p103
2 drops A314 mutant
cover scent - Douro from Penhaligons (currently re-renamed Lords)
…When I first sprayed on the p103 it had a strong but enjoyable scent. After a few minutes I couldn’t smell it at all though. Whether this is because the scent disappeared or because my nose adapted to it I do not know. My wife is out of the area working today so I couldn’t ask her.
I did feel inspired to take care of a couple of little tasks I’d been putting off just after I applied the p103.
Then I stopped by a local restaurant for lunch. It was fairly empty. There were two waitresses working the room, a hefty gal around 50 (h50), and a slender one around 35 (s35). s35 is always actively hustling from table to table, cleaning things, taking orders, etc. even if there aren’t many people present. The table I chose to sit at was on h50’s side of the room. She took my order. When she came back she said “Hope you enjoy your breakfast!” It was 11:45 am, which is usually considered lunchtime, so I thought that a bit odd. I did order an omlette though. Maybe anytime you eat an omlette it’s breakfast.
s35 came over to my side of the room to ask where my wife was. I told her my wife was working today and not available for lunch. Then she left back to her side.
6 elderly ladies came in and sat at the table next to me, although there were a number of other open tables in the room. They enjoyed an animated conversation among themselves while I was there.
When I got up to pay s35 came over to the counter to ring up the bill. She asked me how I was liking my new place. I mentioned that I’d been living in my place for a number of years. She said she thought I just moved in on X street, and I said no, I live on Y street. Then she started telling me some stories about her and her place. I had my hand on the counter and she put her hand on top of mine. We talked for a couple more minutes at the counter (while her tables waited) and when I left she had a big smile on her face.
Then I left for the grocery store and bought a couple of lottery tickets. The clerk said “I know you were coming so I did the ironing.” I looked at here in a puzzled way, and then she explained as she gave me my change in crisp bills, “I ironed the bills for you.”
possibly confusing, strange - h50s mention of breakfast at lunchtime, clerk joking about ironing bills
possible “get it done” effect - my taking care of chores after application…”**
Possibly sexual undertone to P103 including Sunny’s contention that it can be traced back to the wearer very well unlike many other social pheromones (including Spaceland)…
Sunny (May 3, 2007):
“Great report!
I did my initial tests of P103 intentionally before reading anyting on the forum about it. Even though I have no special hit stories to report, I concluded that it is a pretty strong social-friendly-happy molecule. And apparently it can be traced back to the wearer very well (one of the drawbacks of Spaceland is that I everybody becomes happy without tracing it to me).
100 mcg - that’s 8 sprays of the tester… that really is a lot.
It seems that Androtics has found a really useful new putative and one we understand it better it’s going to be really interesting to use it in mixes…”
First thoughts on P103
alseides (April 29, 2007):
“…When two of my companions left, the guy came over and asked if he could take our dishes. After taking the dishes, I noticed he was standing across the room staring at our table still, so I smiled before returning to the conversation at hand, and next thing I knew the guy was at our table again, asking if he could get us anything or clear our drinks.
I found out from my punk later that night that the guy ran into the back of the restaurant and kept saying “Guys, there’s this girl at table 11, and she’s so hot!”I don’t know what his reaction was to finding I was his coworker’s girlfriend, but the guy definitely kept making excuses to come back to the table.
That also might have something to do with the fact that I wear wearing a rather low-cut dress though. Ahem. ”
First thoughts on P103
alseides (May 3, 2007):
“I have [P103] in 12.5mcg, and I’ve been spraying my neck and hair. Usually three or four sprays, but I tend to add another couple for good measure as the day goes on, so I’ve been wearing between 50 and 75mcg the past few times I’ve worn it out. ”
Omg Mx135 !!! - #63 by alseides
alseides (May 19, 2007):
“I prefer this to instant shine in terms of self-effects.
P103 is a competitor for Shine when it comes to others, for me. But I have yet to fully understand P103 - sometimes it’s amazing happy-fun-time vibes and others it’s got a sexual undertone. Hmm.”
Most magnetic pheromones for women?
alseides (May 22, 2007):
“Ahh, P103! Every single time I’ve worn it out to dinner, I’ve gotten free meals, but there have been nights that I’ve only received compliments through other people (i.e. “Man, she’s hot” said to my boyfriend ) just as there have been nights that servers kept coming back to my table for no real reason at all.
I adore P103. I had been concentrating on the happy, uppity effects of it, but now that you mention it Jas, it is pretty magnetic indeed.”
P103 as some kind of intensifier (including negative moods) and as something that can lead to ‘energy crashes’…
alseides (April 29, 2007):
“I think this is one of those mixes that you sort of “crash” on. I wore it yesterday with TAA and TAH, but before I applied the latter two I was coming off my high and getting really tired.** Strange.”
First thoughts on P103
alseides (April 29, 2007):
“I definitely have to try this a few more times - I’m not letting my ToGo go to waste with only two test runs. The high is euphoric and motivating but after an hour or two I end up coming down like I’ve had a ton of energy drinks and I feel like all I want to do is sleep.
Wonder if there’s a mix that wakes people up. xD”
First thoughts on P103
alseides (April 29, 2007):
“…I’ve been wearing P103 on my neck - haven’t tried it in my hair yet, at least not part of my hair that’s not covered by a hat!
Yeah, I crash on it too. But the more I wore it (before my bottle ran out!) I noticed it wasn’t as severe, so maybe one just needs to get acclimated to it.”
First thoughts on P103
alseides (June 28, 2007):
“P103 really is strange. I love the high moments, but the lows, not so much… everything is very, very intense.”
First thoughts on P103
LaurieNY (June 17, 2007):
“Well, I wore 25 mcg of P103 to work on Monday (got called in at the last minute because a co-worker called in sick) and didn’t notice much.
I wore it (about 37.5 mcg) to dinner Thursday night and we had a very giggly time, but after about 90 minutes to 2 hours I crashed majorly and actually felt sick. My friend and I had coffee, and I felt much better afterward. It was weird. I must have mastered Ail’s old advice to “set it and forget it”, because I completely forgot about the pheros, and could not for the life of me figure out why I felt so bad (I had had a medium iced latte from Dunkin Donuts that afternoon, and I had a Diet Coke with dinner, so it shouldn’t have been a caffeine crash). When it finally dawned on me, after I had downed 3/4 of the coffee and got my senses back, I remembered that Alseides had posted about crashing on P103.
Anyway, we had a great time, but I haven’t seen this friend since her wedding last June, so who knows what can be attributed to what.
There hasn’t been quite as much of a dramatic reaction as there was that night–yet at the same time, I have not had as much of dramatic crash with it.
Could the two things be paired? Meaning, if I (and those around me) react more strongly, I will crash more strongly as well?
All in all, I feel like I have been getting results with about 37.5 (three sprays of my TO GO) in terms of bright, happy chattiness–however, I feel like P74 seems to have garnered more such results.
Maybe I’ll megadose at work tomorrow and see what happens.”
Okay, I have definitely tapped into what Alseides pointed out as the duality of this molecule. Sometimes it’s one thing, and sometimes it’s another thing entirely.
Today, it acted as an intensifier, much like the descriptions I have read of P79. I megadosed–62.5 mcg (two 12.5 mcg sprays to the neck, two to the “devil horns”, and one split between the wrists) and was in a very good mood on the way to work and for the first half hour of my shift–until I received a phone call from my mother detailing computer trouble that made me very angry (the Dell guy was supposed to call me at work to make an appointment–my mother returned home from dropping me off to a message on the machine that he would be there in 15 minutes when I specifically said I would be at work) and I was LIVID for the next two hours or so.**
LIVID.
My co-workers thought I was going to rip someone’s throat out. I normally would have been pretty pissed about such a screw-up, but not that furious.
Then, later, I turned into super-focused girl. We got really really busy, and I went into hyperdrive and didn’t forget a single detail.
Then, later, I was peppy again.
And, most notably, no real crash–although I did have three cups of coffee at work today, after having a full mug before I left the house.”
First thoughts on P103
LaurieNY (June 28, 2007):
“Exactly. [P103] seems to work as an intensifier…”
crashes…hmmm I would have to say no huge crashes, but certainly a return to normal. I don’t feel it left me worse off than before as i often felt with large doses of IS. granted i was out late and any “crash” could have been attributed to the late hour I returned home. but no, I never remember any real sine curve to my energy or emotions.
Pherronec, you’ve inspired me to open my 25mcg togo of P103.
I tried one spray before going to the gym. It smelled like rum and seemed to have a similar effect.
Before I left home, the stockbroker called. As you might imagine, in this environment, the financial news is awful no matter what you’re invested in. But that didn’t really bother me as much as it might have.
I walked out to the car intending to drop off some dry cleaning on the way. When I got to the car I realized I’d forgotten it and had to turn around and go back in.
The woman at the dry cleaners short changed me a dollar. I am sure it was inadvertant. It didn’t really bother me. When I looked at the bill it said two small blankets. Actually, one of the two was quite large. The entire simple transaction seemed to have gotten very confused!
I drove though the parking lot at the post office to drop off three letters at the drive-through mail drop. I wanted to make sure I was mailing all three and for just a second I actually caught myself getting confused counting all the way up to three! For a few seconds there, it was like I’d been smoking some really good weed (which I hadn’t).
At the gym everything seemed pretty normal except when one of the personal trainers gave me this really big smile, which was not followed by sales pitch.
In conclusion, this seems like it would be a fun social phero, but it is very disorienting for everyday business. Definitely not a math homework pheromone! Nothing seemed to bother me. It was amazingly similar to being a little drunk.
through on the last of my togo bottle of p103 yesterday(all to the neck and face) and went off to meet my tutor. about 7-8sprays in all(the end gets iffy because the sprays get weaker).
after testing Mx222 for the last few days, this was like a breath of fresh air. so lighthearted and carefree. we laughed and laughed about silly chinese grammer for about two hours. simply fun. thats what p103 is
Simple, fun, careless, giggle, and very noticeable.
My 25mcg wasn’t a freebie. I added it to one of my orders and paid for it. Wish I’d gotten the 30 ml rather than just the togo. It deserves more attention, especially in these stressful times.
It’s still available in the store if you want to buy some. Shipping charges to Shanghai must be expensive, though – especially it you’re paying in renminbi.
Are you guys getting these ‘slightly drunk’, ‘fun’ and ‘careless’ reactions consistently (like on every application)? In my experience, I got this reaction the first time I wore P103 but after that time the effect was not nearly as strong. Perhaps there was some kind of tolerance happening to its effects or maybe I just didn’t wear enough of it.
What advantages/disadvantages would P103 have over Spaceland or high doses of Instant Shine which would give a similar reaction?
An alternative to the Alpha-Androstenol, AndrosteRone, AndrostEnone combo could be large doses of P103, AndrosteRone and AndrostEnone. I wonder how that would work out - P103 in large doses for the ‘smiles’ and Rone and Enone for the ‘alpha male signals’…
well, high does of Shine tend to give me and some other people headaches. i’ve noticed so such signs of that up to the 112.5 mcg level with p103.
Spaceland just makes near me sort of muddled and giggly for no reason. p103 has more of a “im smiling because i’ve been momentarily freed from my emotional baggage, and its so niiiiiice to be free” sort of feeling.
As for the acclimation you mention, i think that is uniform to all pheromones, but with p103(my bottle is now empty, so it doesn’t matter) i would just space out my uses enough to keep the self effects. I like them that much. I found it much more useful on myself than i did on others anyways.
interesting, seems like a useful molecule to check out I have that self effect with (compared to you minor) doses of IS (3 sprays max) as long as I space it out, so not reapply before 4-5 hours, but yes, IS can sort of leave one feeling a touch empty next day (I don’t get depressive after anything I do that has a self effect so I could imagine some folks not feeling great next day)
) just as there have been nights that servers kept coming back to my table for no real reason at all.
I have that self effect with (compared to you minor) doses of IS (3 sprays max) as long as I space it out, so not reapply before 4-5 hours, but yes, IS can sort of leave one feeling a touch empty next day (I don’t get depressive after anything I do that has a self effect so I could imagine some folks not feeling great next day)