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2.5mcg/spray

Just FYI MVK

It took me doing interval testing to realize this. I was testing out Project UF, P96, and other stuff on and off when wearing P75.

I get similar effects from IJ but this has that but no rage. I guess you’re more centered on talking to women, and no intimidation factor.

Thats’ true. :slight_smile:

hey P51, i have so far read all your posts lol, i really like your journal a lot. One of my favorites :stuck_out_tongue:

I also agree with you on p75, it is confidence in a bottle, literally. I believe that if they name it that and sold it as a commercial product, they would generate alot of money because it delivers. What is stopping people from acting on their desires is their negative self talk, and p75 is the cure . I have wrote down my experience with it and i will say this again and again. P75 makes you act like “your shit doesn’t stink”. Bad or good experiences, it really works, and delivers every time

lol, you were close to 700 rep so i just had to be the one who made it so :stuck_out_tongue:

Nice!!

Thanks Joe

nice… i’ve been looking for a good confidence mix that’s a little different than a314. ij works and the rage really isn’t there for me but it’s not congruent with my personality. i use a lot of sarcasm and dry humor and just the slightest shift in the wrong direction will make me seem like an actual jerk.

I have the same issues jay. Sarcasm and dry humor can really throw a wrench in the works when others just don’t get it.

I’ve gotten my share of the look “you’re an asshole”

2.5mcg a spray, but how many sprays? :slight_smile:

I typically use 2.5mcg’s

I hope I understood MVK’s question in what dosage I bought :stuck_out_tongue:

Ongoing report for today

TAK ~5mcgs

On top of 2 drops of A314

So far slight phero rush from new molecule, will report findings as the day progresses

Update: Well that was a weird feeling. It felt like my face was flushed and had congestion on my high cheeks and around my eyes. I wanna say sinus area but on the skin’s surface. I felt an immediate sleepy sensation at first which subsided. I do notice that when someone was trying to butt into my conversation I got slightly annoyed and I went in and reasserted control over the conversation. It wasn’t a bossy way butting in but more assertive.

Update 2: This girl I know came by, had more flirting than I normally do. Remember that I work in a professional environment, but the staff around here is laid back and there were really no one else in the place that could have misconstruted my actions as too inappropriate. She was loving every minute of it and actually had that look from her that was just like a DIHL but is has a “falling” effect but not fallout. It was weird, this was the first reaction I got from her like this.

As for self effects so far I like the straightforward anti-anxiety that I feel with this. If I didn’t have a meeting today with one of my associates and their boss, I wouldn’t have worn A314 with it, but I’m not sure where A314 stops and TAK begins, but I could see a difference with the TAK because alone with A314 I had to constantly keep aware of my situation. For the respect and alpha self effects, TAK is some sort of an anchor that helps you stay in that mindset. I can’t ever account for this since this is the first time I am using this, but I will keep testing tomorrow as well and record any changes. This is the easiest access I have to keeping my thoughts together so most of the updates will be on the fly as I experience them.

Hmm

TAK can make me snippy. I experienced this with Instant Openness when I first started in work environments.

I’m probably going to try this in the higher dosages tomorrow ~15mcgs to see what kind of effects it has.

Short AMMO report.

My friend’s going through a rough time right now so he wanted to go out and grab a drink. I decided to go out with him and help him keep things off of his mind.

We go to the local bar we frequent a decent amount. It was a Tuesday night so it was going to be pretty dead, and I figured it woulda been a waste to try out the fun new molecules that I have.

I just decided to spray on 2x of AMMO.

It was perfect. It still gives the friendly open vibe that I remember from it when I first started using pheromones. Also the bartender who normally is quiet was opened and more animated and interacted the entire group. Yes I know that’s how bartenders are supposed to act, but I have seen her before plenty of times around the bar and the reactions haven’t been like that in my experiences.

I’ve used P130 with A314,
I’ve used it with IS and IH
and I’ve used it as a standalone

The few things that I’ve noticed about it were:

  • Calming effect
  • A314 helps with the confidence building and being sure with yourself, but sometimes for big situations, I get nervous as well, no matter how hard I prepared and how well I know the subject matter. P130 helps quiet down those feelings without the cloudiness I get from some of the putatives. I can remember that P77 P78 and P76 sometimes did that with me and I stuttered words out, almost like a drunken response. With A314 and P130, I notice that it helps mitigate some of those anxieties. Instant Shine is great but if I have too much on, I still get that rush feeling in my stomach.

As for effects on others:

  • I believe that if people were exposed to this long enough, this will help take their anxieties down as well. I noticed this during social situations where people that were normally reserved were very friendly and more open than normal. It hasn’t been like the IO or CTTM where most people need to be opened and then conversations flow. The effect that P130 seems to have is a cross between the comfort of IH and the likeability of IS.
  • I noticed that my friend, who most girls see as intimidating. A lot of people have mistaken him for an Abercrombie model, was opened by some women when I was out with him. I can tell you that this rarely happens with him but the comfort level they had with him was pretty interesting. I had a reaction from them like him, but I do have a better more outgoing personality so it wasn’t as noticeable for me as it was for him.
  • The way that P130 affects me and how I perceive people perceiving me has some P86ish qualities about it. It has comfort and trust, almost like a “cuddle” feeling the way that girls look at you. In certain situations it had the oxytocin like effect on me and I can tell by the looks I was getting to anyone who was exposed to it.
  • The effects of P130 seem to keep me grounded and calm . I remember to the point that everything was just relaxed and normal. My friend remarked that she wasn’t able to tell I was drunk because usually I get louder when I get like that. She mentioned that I just seemed relaxed and chill.
  • For someone who holds a lot of things back because of the position I’m in. I end up telling clients things how they are. They teach you to have certain styles of sales and to watch out for words because you do not want to offend a client or say the wrong thing. I experienced this today (no A314) that I told a client straight out why their views were incorrect and proceeded to spurt out data to support it. We all know not to do that because once there is any sort of antagony with a client, they shut down. But he was very receptive, he also told my associate that was there that I was “sharp, knowledgable, and trust what he says”. I think again that this is personality driven and that taking away the worries will essentially make you more congruent with what you believe to be right.

In closing, P130 brings out your inner confidence and helps you be who you are at the core. It can also have a negative effect if you’re overcompensating and the truth comes out. Its not that it faciliates honesty, but it does with comfort and ease. This is why I think that this might be good for events like public speaking and large meetings. For me, 25mcg’s seem to work the best, and I like how normal and confident I feel with it.

Sprayed some MX384 on my neck today.

MAN IT STINKS!

It smells like a musky old lady with clothes that sat in the closet for a while in the middle of the summer.

I’ll update in a bit, right now I have to use some cover cologne.

Edit

I used 2x MX384 on the sides of the neck.

Man it really stinks, its nasty. I just had to cover with A&F Fierce cologne it is so bad. I have a client coming in right now and let’s see how this affects the interaction.

Edit #2:

Interaction went very well. I had 2 clients come see me during that time. MX384 seems to have alpha nol like effects. It’s just unfortunate I won’t be able to test this without adding cover, it stinks it stinks it stinks

P51Mustang

Nice reporting like usual. I got 2 questions for you about P75, if you dont mind.

Could it be Andrastanone?

It is a very very good product that cancels out self talk. If andrastENONE is sexual and andrastoRONE is respect, then what is Andrastanone?

I swear P75 gives me the most Blatant self effects out of everything i have tested so far( IG, Mx297, [a little bit of P130]). I know that is not much and i still have ALOT OF THINGS TO TEST. Here is what i have and didn’t test yet
P83
P79
P74
IS x4
Ih x4
Io x4
Mx390
Max attraction gold
Pherx(tested it only for 2 sprays, need to add more and see if i get something out of it)
Instant jerk
Mx301

I got A1 and men’s sample pack coming from lovescent.

I might need to buy andstA none from there to check and see lol.

oh yea the other question, the Putatives only contain one molecule right?

The most experienced users out there believe that it is AndrostANONE. I have never tried it and will be in the process of trying it out later on. Olfact Amorous did a test between P75 and AndrostANONE from LS and was able to determine for himself that there was no direct correlation. Jasmin also said that P75 isn’t AndrostANONE. I can’t give you a definitive answer because I haven’t tried it myself. My tip to you would be to take two empty to-go containers, label inside of a peice of paper and randomly test it out per bottle. There would be no bias and you can have conclusive reports for yourself at that time.

Putatives are single molecule chemicals, according to Androtics.

You have a sizeable stock so I would go with testing each one and see how it works out for you

I’m pretty sure you guys would be used to my Friday reports and the debauchery that ensued the prior night.

I decided to go and play with my chemset.

As it goes!

P75 2.5mcg
TAC 7.5mcg
NONE 7.5mcg
P96 30mcg
BNOL 15mcg
P93 10mcg
P86 20mcg

It’s still over my 75mcg limit but I’m still tweaking the effects. I can probably reduct the P86 or eliminate it completely. Gotta go and test it out even more.

My friend and I went for drinks last night and as the night progressed my self control went down the tubes along with my drinks.

We already know most of the people around there. It’s just that one bar you can go to, be comfortable, grab drinks and have a really fun time doing it. I was explaining to my friend how pheromones worked. I let him in on the “secret” and was explaining how things work and what not to use and what not.

One of the bartenders there already knows us pretty well and it’s going to be harder to guage changes because once they’re used to a specific signature its very hard. But I know the effects of Beta - Nol and it was kicking ass that night. Usually conversations are pretty light with nothing too serious, last night we were also getting into the conversation of exes. Probably not the best thing to get into on a thursday night while the damn place is playing mellow songs. We were exchanging stories and she was just flat out honest and I found out details I don’t think she would reveal just to anyone. I also told my friend my name on here, which I was trying to keep private, but whatever.

The second hit of the night came from Ice Queen. We nicknamed her that because she just isn’t seem as friendly as #1. I can remember time and time again she’s always been that one that just does not seem the most social one there. She actually opened up last night and was a lot friendlier than I thought she was.

The rest of the night was a blur but I did notice those two things that happened.

There are some personal details here I’m not going to disclose on open forum but:

One thing I noticed about this mix was that deep seeded feelings come out. I’m not talking about attraction either but I think the combination of P96 and BNOL surfaced deep emotion from one person. I couldn’t put a finger on it until today but I was actually really surprised when I found this out. I might have just made a potentially good mix for LTR’s.

There is a reason why things that are a part of your past should stay there.

I made my mix of A314, P96, Beta Nol, P75 and P130 added on.

As you may all have known I was seeing someone that meant a lot to me at a point. A break that shouldn’t have happened and I completely understood why.

It made me realize a lot of things about myself.

So we get to the bar, it was for a good friend of mine’s birthday. We say hi to everyone we know, and of course I say hi to the birthday girl first and there she was. We had that awkward eye contact and that was about it. I knew this night going forward, this wasn’t going to be what I expected it to, there wasn’t even going to be any civility throughout the rest of the night, so I just moved on and had as much fun as possible. I know most of the people there so it was going to be a fun night regardless, and it did turn out like that.

As far as hits were concerned I don’t know if it had anything to do with how she was reacting but it was odd enough that everyone started to notice a pattern coming along.

Everytime that I was with one of our mutual friends, she would immediately jump right in and talk to them. Now there were a good amount of people there and she could have just left us alone and let it be, but no, she had to get into it and just put herself there. This happened with everyone of our mutual friends that we were interacting with. I was getting drinks for the birthday girl, and she immediately brings herself there and just takes over the conversation. I just found it really weird that she couldn’t let them be alone with me or converse for that matter. It was almost like she wanted me to know she was there. Which I knew because she didn’t say anything.

I know her, so I’m like this is her way of trying to talk to me. So I did a very subtle tap to her hand, either she ignored it or didn’t notice but I didn’t try after that. I just couldn’t be bothered at that point. It kept happening to the point that it was getting annoying. It’s like a damn dog trying to piss on her territory, immature for someone of her age, but what can you do.

I did notice that she kept looking at me. It may have bothered her that it wasn’t bothering me, and I was still having fun, joking around, laughing, and just having a great frigging time. I haven’t seen some of these people in years, and it was just great to come back and catch up with them. I thought it would have bothered me more, but nope its gone I was even thinking of just writing her a quick message on facebook to squash whatever it is she has against me, but right about now, I don’t even see the point in taking the high road. I believe people like that will get exposed for who they really are, no need for it. However I’m still debating cause I will probably see her more now but I’m so borderline, I don’t know what to do, but for now no.

In the end she tried to make me look that she’s with another guy, and I sorta cared, but I really didn’t. I know her tactics and she’s tried to pull that with me before and now, let her do what she wants to do, I just won’t have none of it.

I really don’t know why the feelings are gone. I thought it would hurt more, I thought that it would bother me a heck of a lot more than it does with me now. It does bother me, but not in the typical “i’m down because it didn’t happen” its more of no matter what I do, those feelings will never come back. That’s what gets to me the most, that how can something so great once, be nothing now.

I know its partly because I won’t settle for anything less than what my standards are. I know my worth and I’m not going to compromise to chase past feelings that may not even be there anymore.

I’m going to have to think this over if I even want to take the high road and relieve some of the tension between us for the sake of our friends.

So I’ve been thinking about what the effects that P130 are having on me. It’s been pretty consistent as the effects are deeper than anxiety reducing effects.

This report would be in conjunction with A314 usage and it helped out the alpha mentality that comes with it. As for my previous post, I went over what happened that night in my head again after I had some sleep.

I’ve worn the mix before sans P130 and I know that it had something to do with putting all the negative thoughts in your head. I really can’t explain it, I don’t know how a molecule believed to have pheromone characteristics can give me the self effects that I felt that night. It was almost like it put everything together for me that night. I wore the mix to create genuine attraction and to establish some high status and respect. As I’m still working on developing a good inner game working, I still fall sometimes and not as Alpha/Secure.

When she was trying to make me jealous, and showing up every place I possible was everytime she had a chance, It just turned me off to how a person can be like that. The way she acted and the things she was trying to do to “show off” just weren’t affecting me. It wasn’t deflection but more of an immunity. It got to the point where I was like “seriously, do you really have to do that?” I pierced right through it, and the more it happened, the more I realized of how that’s not what I want in my life.

I think that P130 is an internal conflict remover. It helps push along your deep wants/desires without letting conflicting voices get in the way of that want/desire. It helps remove that social anxiety with people you don’t know or you’re not comfortable with. It seems that it is almost like they bottled up how your social interactions would be with the people you’re most comfortable with, and put it in this molecule. It lets you be you without having those second thoughts.