P51Mustang's Journal

Man 3.5 sprays of IJ might have been a little too much.

Phero rush, slight headache. Granted I was also drinking a caffine based drink and having a cigarette.

I did get mentally this “I don’t give a fuck attitude” just saying things how they are. It’s almost like Instant Honesty but on roids. I guess that’s where the jerk comes in because you will say exactly what’s on your mind and not care.

Use P76 again, and with 30 mcg’s along with my normal work mix A314+IS+AMMO it works just as good. I toned down the IS2x to one spray and I had the same self effects, I might keep it that way for now and order some P76 later on for further work mixes. Maybe a better viable replacement to IS?

More testing to find out.

Product: Base work mix ( A314 x3 (normal drops) + IS2x x1 + AMMO x1) + P76 30mcg
Application: Work

Range of effects are pretty close in my opinion. I think they go farther and react with my co-workers because we’re in an office, probably all within a 20 ft range within each other most other clients will be in that range as well. When I sit down with them I notice that it’s been so much easier to deal with clients with this on. I guess it has a softening effect on the A314 that I like so far. I’ve also toned down the IS to 30mcg’s total instead of the normal 60mcg’s I use for my normal work mix. I’m getting the same reults. I still feel a tiny tiny bit of phero rush but not as pronounced as it was back then.

I also think that the receptiveness and the respect that A314 garners seems more amplified because it makes you more approachable. People still respect you and trust you but it just has that (for a lack of a better word) softening effect. Not that it gives you less respect or status but just makes people more inclined to talk to you. It disinhibits people from stopping themselves from being intimidated by you, but it’s social. Best thing I can recognize from this so far right now is that this is a social disinhibitor for initimidating/alpha pheromones.

I have still yet to try this out in social situations but right now this is the most deiail I can give because work is where I spend most of my waking hour is spent at work. In regards to social situations I’ll try this out when I get the chance to but I’m working on other putatives for attraction based when I finally get around to it.

Hope this helps people out in the professional field.

Normal work mix today, no putatives.

Lots and lots of agitation. Might have to check P76 again tomorrow.

Alright.

So from conclusions, mood is the main driver in pheromones. I went back to just using my normal A314, IS, AMMO mix for work and left it at that. Been decent as of late with the exception of P76 which just gave me more patience.

I tested out P77 the other day and I want to say that it’s close to the P78 results I got. I tested it initially at 20, 30 mcg. Phero rush slightly noticeable at 20 mcg but the 30 mcg was more pronounced, almost like an “unbuffered” MX297. Still got some sensuality hits. It’s not like anone with what IJ gives me, it’s definitely a slower buildup and no so in your face. I only have about half of the to-go’s left so I’m going to have to test out in more social situations as they go. Unfortunately they won’t be as close together as my previous work testing because I’m so pressed for time, social situations have to take a back seat right now. Also I want to gauge the effects on people I’ve established a baseline on.

More to come

Venue: Outdoors
Weather: Mid 70’s low humidity
Pheromones Used: IG(2), IH2x(2), IJ(1), P93 10mcg, P83 30 mcg

So I met up with some friends the other night and one I had a particular interest in. One of my friends knew what was going on and luckily the one I wanted sat alone so when I got there I got to sit next to her. I’m just going to break down each individual reactions I got from them based on the products I wore.

Instant Gentleman: Respect but light hearted. They were all able to open up and had fun conversations. Nothing got too serious, conversations kept flowing, didn’t see any awkwardness.

Instant Honesty: The component of that coupled with IG I believe is what stood out for me the entire night. I noticed from the last exposure I had with two of them wearing MX297, IH, P83 combo was more subtle and less conversation. It could also be the situation they were in and more people the last time.

Instant Jerk: This gave me more confidence than anything, coupled with Androsterone based products (A314/IG) this, for self effects helps me get over the “Awkwardness anxiety”. Also I needed some Androstenone base to the mix to help me with the attraction hits.

P83: Along with the IJ (Ill let you guys determine the reaction.) I noticed initiation of physical contact, slight touches to the shoulder/arm. Close physical proximity, I didn’t get like a blatant IOI that I get with some girls so I wasn’t sure on how to read that or to take that. PUA/Experts please chime in.

P93: I still am not sure on what this does, but I’ve started to change mixes around to see what P93 brings me but I do know from some research it has a softening effect so I had some sort of basis to do it. It could have softened up the IJ right to where I needed it to be for that occasion. That’s going to be on my test list coming up soon.

All in all I’m not sure how to take it. I’m always iffy with girls I do like and confident with ones I don’t. It’s stupid I know but what can you do.

must have more respect for yourself and at the same time raise your standards.

a confident, successful, sociable, well dressed man is a “10” and it should not be a problem for him to truly belive in that and behave congruently. If you don’t - work on yourself a bit harder :wink:

I am a mones novice, but don’t you think you are using too many products at the same time? I personally don’t think I will ever wear more than two. I think that different situations require different emphasis, and as far as I can see this topic is well covered in this forum. No point in using cavalry for infantry job, or send an A bomb to kill the enemy’s dog :slight_smile:

The P series are single molecule chems so to put it into perspective IO/IH has two molecules a piece so that’s 15mcg/spray, if you use two that’s 30 mcg right there. I only did about 40. Also, IJ is a high Androstenone product, for that to have made sense for the environment for which I was testing I buffered it with those pheromones. IH was to bring out deeper conversations and IG because for some reason Androsterone based products work exceptionally well for me. IG alone can’t produce latent sexual tension unless you make it obvious, with the situation that I was in I couldn’t make it obvious so I had to make it more subtle, I don’t typically wear IO cause I can strike up a conversation. The person in question is gf material that’s why I used the P83 and P93 and IH so the closeness can all come into one.

Alright so here it goes:

Technicals

Venue: Outdoor bar
Pheromones: MX297(3), IHx2(2), P83 (~35-40 mcg), P75(~2.5mcg). Application points, arms/neck/chest (P75) rest evenly.
Weather: High 70’s low 80’s low humidity.

So I went out with a bunch of friends 1 guy and 3 girls. Met some people at the place and did observations. I tried not to drink so much for the sake of science but that went out the window.

Hits?

I say hi to all my female friends. “OMG you smell good what is that”. The rest smell and agrees.

MX297: Respect hits ALL over the place. When I tell you that I know most of the people I interacted with and it was a great conversation and I definitely know the respect hits were there when body language is congruent with yours, always shaking hands and making conversation. Always asked for my opinion and I felt like I was looked at to get approval for them to like me.

IH: The hits I got were people just telling me blatant things I never knew about, more personal stuff that I cared to know but they were friends and I didn’t care. I slipped out a secret (note to self don’t wear this near yourself).

P83: Close contact, long hugs, attraction blatantly there.

P75: Two words. Game Changer.

I kept getting attraction hits from women that I kept interacting with. Unfortunately, I really can’t do anything much about it without being a scumbag. This happens because everyone knows each other and it’s just more problems than I’m willing to get into.

Best hit of the night was this gorgeous girl that’s a little older than me. Ended up getting her number and setting a lunch date (sweet). I’m always overly critical of myself but when she said hi I got a nice tight huge and enthusiastic response. It also helped that I was confident as shit and didn’t care what happened going forward. This is definitely attributed to the long-term use of A314. It definitely stays with you even if you’re not wearing it.

The P75 definitely took this to another level. I’ve worn the MX297 IH P83 mix before but for my body chem there was something missing. And I think this was it.

Don’t get me wrong MX297 by ITSELF will get me this, but it just makes it easier. Call it the lazy man’s mix. Your game and your personality still has to be there but with this mix it’s almost like you’re doing zero work in itself. I don’t think adding anything on detracted from the MX297 aura, it definitely just helped it along (think corvette getting a new engine, top line supercharger, and 50/50 weight distribution). Still a great car, but just makes things easier.

For new users: Don’t think this is a super mix. I’ve studied extensively how these pheromones work for me and how the putatives affect me. It may or may not affect you the same way it does for me. If you’re a new MX297 user, use it once for yourself by itself cause without a doubt you will get so much out of it and learn more than you can eventually pick and choose what pheromones to wear for specific situations.

Alright so I tested this mix out again last night with one thing added P93.

So all in all it was:

MX297(3), IH2x(2), P83 (30mcg), P93 (10mcg), P75 (~2.5mcg)

Self effects:

Sociable, very very sociable. Usually meeting new people I tend to be on the introverted side but now I’m just more open. I equate it to long term effects of the A314 but MX297 definitely has that aura about it and mentally I knew that coming in. Maybe it could be the P93 or 75, I’m not sure. I know I should have done this individually by itself but I couldn’t sacrifice not wearing any A314 because of the overall aura I get from it at work and right now is crunch time and I don’t want to mess things up by sending out the wrong signals. I just go based on the baseline effects I get from people when wearing certain mixes/product and when I’m going out with them I’ll gauge effects as they change.

Effects on others:

I was getting looks and IOI’s all of last night (counting this more than a one time look and having several look backs and smiles) but it couldn’t have been the pheromones. I just know that it won’t diffuse that far and that there were so much more competing scents that it would be hard to pick up my sig from that far away (greater than 4 feet). But who knows I guess that’s what testing is about. And I’m not a bad looking guy either, I get my fair share of looks so I doubt it would have been the pheromones.

The thing about this mix that blatantly comes out is the respect hits. Everyone respects you because you’re cool, you’re not a jerkoff. It’s not a respect in the form of reverence that I get from A314. The guys I met there just gave me that impression, like its your long lost buddy and you’re reconnecting again. The girls I can tell were again more friendly and open than their normal selves, like I never look for attraction hits on them well just cause they really are just friends.

However, several of them kept telling me to go for this one friend, I always defer because I really don’t like to shit where I eat. I really don’t know how to take that as hits wise because when someone’s friends tell you something, I just think that for the most part there is something else there that’s underlying.

The MX297 has that long lasting impression on people. I remember saying that this was like a catalyst that just put things together. I remember it mixing with AMMO and IS, which was great for cold pickups. Now I’ve tried this out in more of an environment where I’ll meet people that already know people I know. For women I meet that way I like having socials in there a lot better just because of the longer lasting impressions of it.

I’ve also been weary of the high pheromone dosage mixes I’ve been doing. I’m all for the lets try this with as least product as possible, and don’t get me wrong, some mixes do work well for that. However, for the most part my experiences have taught me that an A314, AMMO, MX297, MX301 are great standalone products regardless and you can wear them normally and get results, I just find that you really have to be congruent with it and sometimes in certain situations you have to do that see saw act when it comes to giving off a signal and having your body language be totally different so you don’t seem “too serious” or “too much of a hornball”. But for targeted situations like the preceding report, it works great to have a “surgical” mix to tailor it to what you want to.

I know there are probably going to be varying opinions on this, and if you do please address, it would be great to get insights on this and maybe learn something new down the road.

MX297 strikes again.

MX297 x3, IH2x x2, P83 30mcg, P79 15 mcg, P75 5mcg

This has probably been the most animated and greatest reaction I’ve seen with the mixes I’ve been trying out with MX297 and company.

Life of the party vibe, yeah you have to be that normally to get it, and I was, I felt amazing, just going from people to people and SERIOUSLY just having an awesome frigging time. I’ve never had this much fun on a monday night. There was just that “vibe” in the air that everyone was chilling and having fun. Everyone was laughing and having a great time.

As for attraction hits there were plenty, and my oh my there were plenty.

This cute waitress kept brushing into me, and making eye contact and smiles the ENTIRE time, now I know how it is in the service industry, you do what you have to do to make money, and that’s that. I’ve been in that business before and I know that that’s what it was. The first couple of times when she made eye contact and smiled, I wasn’t thinking much of it because I know that’s what servers do, they have to to make the tips they want to make. Again I’m used to it since I used to do the job and I know females who do that. But after a while she kept on giving me that look, and I know it was different because it’s not the same flirty look I get from bartenders/shot-girls. This looked GENUINE to me. There isn’t a question in my mind that it wasn’t because I know how these things work, I’ve been to my share of bars/clubs/strip clubs to know. This continued on all night and just got some talking here and there, even though my friend who works there told me she’s just normally friendly and flirty later on, I’m going with my gut on this one cause it hasn’t failed me yet.

P83 + P79 - Thank you Wildflower cause when I tried this mix out tonight, not only did I get so much physical contact, I got it a lot more than normal. I would say 2 were attraction hits and the rest weren’t because it just caused friends to be really really friendly. Nothing from there because you know you cannot manufacture something that isn’t there with pheromones.

The other ones that I got were from this one girl I know. Now I don’t even know wtf is up with her and me but I do know nothing can ever come from it because of moral reasons. Besides being good friends I just see the most reaction from pheromones from her, for some reason certain women will give me blatant hits that pheromones work and I’m just like WTF why can’t I get this during normal applications in pickup situations and random conversations.

Anyway, she kept being close and being touchy with me, she’s all affectionate and flirty to the point that my friends kept telling me why aren’t you going for it, what’s wrong with you. I hate to really say it but since I’m experimenting and I know she’s really good with pheromone exposure I decided to try it out on her to see what happened. Kino can’t even describe what happened, I was touching places, as publicly allowable that I could get away with and I got little resistance, she even did it back with me time to time. Because I know we’re friends and that’s the stance, I was even flirting with girls in front of her because I wanted to see their reactions from the mix I was wearing, the normal tells like mirroring body stance, dilated pupils, no stress on the face when smiling, playing with the hair, flinching, were all there and the touching and getting close were definitely part of the P83 + P79 mix.

So anyway we were all going home and everyone decided to get one last nightcap, I really wanted to go but my friend asked me to come, so I did. Again I made sure to place myself far from her across the table just to see how it went, I went to sit with her to look at the menu when we were there and proceeded to go to my seat. I began talking to another friend of ours that was a guy and just let everyone make their own conversations. Essentially at the end of the night she was sitting next to me and laying on me practically cuddling. She started talking about what would have happened if we hooked up and got deeper into it than I would care to address on a public forum. At that point I was a little uncomfortable because I didn’t want people to think anything else was going on with her and I. And in reality nothing is going on with her and I and nothing ever will because of what’s happened in the past. It’s just great now that I got knowledge of pheromones and how to use them in specific situations and know when to use them and not to use them.

This mix has probably been tweaked and proven and now since the P’s I use are in limited supply, I’m just going to leave that mix for special occasions and work on my next project with is IJ + ______________.

Awesome report man! You were really in the zone that night. :smiley:

As far as your friend goes, I’m actually not surprised you got the strongest reactions from her. P83 has a knack for bringing out things in people, and making them more receptive to whatever it’s mixed with (P79 does the same). If she’s always had feelings for you then the mix just brought it to the table.

Also, it sounds like she was around you most of the night am I correct? If so, then there is a possibilty P75 was making her more…insistent. From what I’ve read, P75 has a slow burn sexual effect that gets progressively stronger the longer a woman is around. Factor in the MX297 which is a BEAST on its own, and add in P75 and…well you know.:cool:

Anyway, great report. I’ll be keeping an eye on your journal to see what new mad science you rollout next.:stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah practically the entire night. It wasn’t just that I was also getting a blatant IOI from that waitress, I was just amazed at how well she went. I think it was the phero sig because I was at a table fitted to the end of a railing so I was farthest away, I was surrounded by friends on all sides with tables, but somehow she was next to me when I went to order my drink, like CLOSE. I didn’t realize how well the silage and diffusion of this was because she was about 4ft away from me with competing scents. I remembered my friend telling me (who wears too) that he could notice that I was wearing something that night. I gotta try that again next time I go out to that place, good thing I have an in already.

I wasn’t sure what the P75 was doing but thanks for giving me the heads up on that. I don’t know if the P75 was over the top but it may have been too much with 5mcg, I usually try to do 2.5. More testing to do but I don’t want to deplete these to-go’s to quickly for the P70’s cause I’m not sure what’s going on with the putatives right now.

I am really excited to get my MX297 now! The only thing I don’t have is P75, but it’s on the agenda. :slight_smile: Glad you’ve got a friend that wants you like that!

It must be a big thrill to get these reactions from people. I don’t care what the general thoughts on not being able to build attraction is. It doesn’t have to be there the entire time. Something like saving a girl you already know from certain death by stopping her from walking into traffic can cause incredible feelings of attraction for you. It’s a survival circuit in her brain that was triggered when you saved her, so you’ve become very appealing to her.

It’s fun and you know it’s good to have some clean fun every once in a while. Creating that tension with certain people also works out well in the end and just makes you more attractive to everyone else.

I AIM to have more nights like that because it just makes going out worthwhile. Those settings are probably some of the best experiences I have because of that.

Alright so I had a big interview today, I must have had close to 8 drops of A314 by my estimations and 6 sprays of IS. The reason this happened was because I put it on before I shaved and repplied once I did to the areas I shaved from. Also my dropper has been dropping globs on my wrists rather than drops.

I had to increase the Instant Shine I normally use because of the excess A314.

I had a headache, probably a mone overdose from what happened prior or it could be the Instant Shine. So I’m driving to the interview and I was nervous a little bit because its a make it or break it type of deal, I mess this up I probably won’t get considered for the position again in this area.

As I get closer I just feel confidence slowly building in, I mean I’m a confident guy and I’ve always had that conviction to get what I need to get and go for what I want, and for the most part, I’ve gotten it. By the time I got there I was full of confidence, and I know I’m the best one for the job, I know it I just had to show it.

So the interview went very well. I showed the conviction that I felt and essentially sold myself and why I would be the best one out there. I just felt a good vibe coming out of it and hopefully with luck and skill I’ll be offered the position.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

Awesome! Glad things went well for you! I’ve been having some great luck in everything too, but I have to find out how to apply it to getting a great girl. That’s really the only area of my life that I want to fill :roll_eyes:

You know as long as I can remember that’s one thing that has eluded me. And unfortunately when women get to know me more in depth, they fall in love. But by then it’s too late.

Lately, I’ve just gone out and tried to have the time of my life. Make every day count, make sure you don’t leave things unsaid and don’t put something off when you can do it now. The confidence and “swagger” that I get from living it up fully has opened doors for me and helped me get closer to what I want as a part of my life.

What I’m trying to say is that go and do you and live for now, carpe diem, and I’m telling you it will just happen and you’re going to be like, oh wow, when did this happen.

Alright I used the same mix. Same venue but more of a laid back type of night.

MX297 x3, IH2x x2, P83 30mcg, P79 15 mcg, P75 5mcg

I can tell from my friend that there was closer subtle physical contact. It wasn’t attraction based but I kept getting brushes here and there and that was just weird to me cause it’s never happened when I’m around her. I was just like hmm, this is interesting. That was that one.

This place is where girls will flirt with you just because it’s part of the theme, so nothing really out of the ordinary except this one waitress, this was more of, look, smile, hold eye contact, smile again, walk away awkwardly. I wasn’t giving the creepy vibe, I know that cause I saw her looking at me when I was just talking to my friends on the table and I just noticed the look. Also which was different was the server we have usually brought the drinks out to everyone else, but when I ordered through her, the other waitress came back again, but yet my other friends got their drinks from the server that took all the other orders. I got some physical contact, but servers do that because it’s part of rapport building, esp if the table is full of guys, you do that to make bigger tips, but the difference with her was that I got it and no one else did. I wasn’t even dressed up, I just had more of a laid back, t shirt hat track pants on and was more relaxed and nonchalant than anything. The rest of normal IOI 's I disregarded because of the environment we were in and some of those were expected. The other waitresses that came by (they knew my friend) got some looks and came more frequently. My guess is that the longer they were exposed the more they came back. One would just bend over and show cleavage (wasn’t our server) and just kept coming back and her body faced mine every single time. Didn’t think there was a purpose in her doing that because she could just talk normally without having to bend down. I would understand if she was our server and was flirting, but she wasn’t.

P75 hits are very very very subtle for me, however I do notice that the repetition of instances where the ones that are affected come back more often than they need to. I equate it to having a good cologne on and a girl that keeps coming back to smell you.

The P83 I didn’t see too much of the effects I had prior to this because most of the exposure I got were to the ones working there, esp fear of being fired, reprimanded, and looking bad in front of your co workers isn’t a good look when it comes down to it.

P79 probably had some effects on why the servers kept coming back who weren’t assigned to us. I got the same results from the prior night with the other server when she was the farthest one from me but took the move to get closer. I might just try P75 + P79 by themselves with the MX297 and IH and leave the P83 out when I’m in that specific situation again.

It’s almost like this mix will have your targets mirror what your perceived state of being is, since it was a quiet night, I was getting more subtle and slow reacting hits, as opposed to the other night when I was more outgoing and having more fun because there were more people there.

First test was more of the party guy, second test was the mysterious interesting guy.

I’m probaby going to do the A314 IS AMMO mix + P76 , P77 , P78 added on one by one to see the effects. I’ve had great self effects from the P78 with more of an intense sensual feeling while P77 and P78 lightened and brightened by day up in a work environment, these will probably help me understand the differences in work vs social environments with the same molecules and same base mix.

So many to test, so little time

ROFLMFAO!!! So true. Whew, need to catch my breath now.

Yeah, I agree. There isn’t enough time to do everything I want with my mone usage - so I sympathize man. Hopefully you have another killer report soon. :smiley: