HELL YEAH! Finally the hook up with D we have all been waiting for. By God man I have been reading this journal for months and months just waiting on this. I feel like I am part of this story. I am so proud of yah man.
Thanks for all the advice on it.
You, Josie, Smelly, Olfact, Maiden, BG, gents, jesse, among others have been great in following with this.
Learned a lot in these 6 months which is awesome and continue to keep learning.
Oh and GoMas you too
Congratulations man! Very happy for you!
Hmm contemplating on making an asshole mix tonight consisting of
A314 2x
IJ 2x
P75 5mcg
P79 15mcg
when yo use IJ, do guys get aggressive towards you? For example if you OD on it are you prone to get into a fight in a club?
I just punch them in the face before it escalates any further, usually all it takes is one shot but sometimes I kick em in the face afterwards to ensure a swift and decisive action.
Just kidding.
No I haven’t really gotten that vibe. Remember that a high -none sig can be polar with men and owmen, but unless you’re being an arrogant and condescending prick that is looking for a fight, you’ll be fine with IJ. I have a muscular build so it works well for me and I am a ball buster so it works well.
Just don’t be a douchebag and you’ll be fine.
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I used the asshole mix when I went out to the city with my guy friends.
We hit up a couple of places throughout the evening and I can tell you that if you that this is probably so overkill and so over the top with the results, you can’t ever doubt pheromones.
A314 2x
IJ 2x
P75 5mcg
P79 10mcg
So we were all in a situation where we were in the car for a good 45 minutes before we got to the first place we were going to, most of the time the windows were up and the sig had to have been affecting the group. I’ve known most of these guys 10+ years and we’re all good friends. But I can notice a couple of things about the way that I was being “challenged” it was almost like the shot they were taking were very subtle but at a leader you want to test. For all intents and purposes, I was directing where we were going for the most part. The plans for the night were my friends and I was only along because I told him I would wing for him. I just happened to drive because I was going to take it easy for the night. Anyways, I also noticed some -none rage building up, I am usually pretty patient but I could tell that my temper was reaching a tipping point. However I knew what I put on and I knew the type of relationship I have with these guys so I really had to make a conscious effort to deflect in a certain way I’m not used to. If we go back and forth, and with all the tempers which could flare at any moment, I decided to use a different approach than we were normally not used to.
So we get to the first venue, it was packed and there were lots of parties there. We were going there for a drink before heading into the second venue. One of my friends meets up with someone he met there and they all introduced us together. One was cute, and other was a sweetheart. Anyways, at this point in time, we had our spot at the bar, my friend wanted to hit on this girl he knew that just started working there from previous encounters so he asked me to go and talk to her. I did so I actually had some of the best game I’ve seen in months. On point with kino escalation, conversations, building attraction, push pull, compliance, and everything else you could possibly think of. Here’s the kicker, both my friends were trying to either AMOG me, or were just trying to get into the conversation. When they were there, I knew there was still some tension there and it was the awkwardness of meeting new people in the beginning. I got into the convo and I immediately built rapport. I was observant and noticed little facts about her which I could use to steer the conversation later on, which by the way, worked absolutely great. It’s been a while since I’ve gotten that good of a practice run. My friend came back and I obviously transitioned the conversation back to him.
2nd place was a bust, I hate it there. We ended up leaving early.
3rd place was one of our local club/lounge which is very popular. Put it this way, people have driven from other places, including other states to go to this place. It’s not a city place, but it’s well known for having a great vibe and ambiance. The locals get sick of it, but it’s always a place where we can go, hang out, and have fun. Anyways, the girls we know did table service and bought bottles themselves, they invited us to come out and hang out with them and since we were ending the night there, we decided to all go. For the most part I got some of the best reactions from women that night with this mix. I did seem to put off one of my friends there, but I wasn’t getting a clear reaction from them. It could be they were put off by the -none, which btw they’re Hispanic. But my friends who were European/Mediterranean were all comfortable with me and were having fun and we got to dancing, some hugs here and there, some close flirting and I had a high -none mix on. Go figure right. I also didn’t get much of a bad reaction when I saw some of my friends there, they were only interactions of 5 min or less because it’s a crowded place but these guys were traditional alpha guys with what I would be guessing a high -none sig to begin with naturally. Both of them were football players in college and keep in shape, nothing from there, and they treated me like we were equals. Which they always have but the differences with the first group and the other two were completely different. My theory is this, with the severity of how my friends in the car were treating the sig, the one with the least alpha quality was challenging me more than the ones with more. And the friend I saw at this third place is an alpha male, but he didn’t seem challenged by it but more of the lines accepted it. It could be coincidence, it could just prove to be a little true, but it’s going to be very hard for me to wear this mix again without decking this one idiot in the face the way he was acting that night.
Moreover, I saw Z and R there, they work at the other place I usually go to. I didn’t get any off put vibes by them. They’re both young in their early 20’s and I would have thought it put them off a little bit but it didn’t. I was really really shocked at that cause I thought that younger women were put off by -none a lot more. Even if she was I woulda noticed a change in Z’s demeanor since I know her very well. Z and R are also closer to the alpha female side of the personality scale. Both are intelligent and got great looks to complement it. I think with these higher, more intimidating mixes, the more secure and confident the person is, the better they will take that sig and react better to it.
Thumbs up to this conclusion.
I look at it a tad different…It may just be that they LIKE YOU 
If a friend of mine stinks like “shit” I don’t disown him. I think sometimes your sig carries little to no weight(they might have actually LIKED it too) like when I was recently wearing 6 sprays of IJ … I don’t think my GF necessarily liked it like most things I wear, but she DOES like me and P130 is great for maybe helping turn around a “busted mix” or at least making people not really care too much about not liking it which makes it more acceptable not really weakening it 
Great in depth run-down of your night…NEVER expect anything different from YOU
I wanted to play around with the consumer line for a little bit because I do love the ease of use that it affords me.
I went for a gentlemanly jerk vibe tonight.
IG 2x
IJ 1x
The venue was my local bar.
I wanted to see how the effects were with G, I have confirmed a couple of my theories with this and this was the perfect opportunity to test this. I already concluded that G is a better candidate for the IJ mix, and since I was going to look the part to I figured it would be perfect. I got there a few minutes before any of my friends and I was just talking to her for a bit. I wanted to compare the subtle signs for it since that’s really the only way you can really tell with her. I can tell you that she reacted a lot better with this while more of the -erone, -nol types of girls stayed back a bit more. It’s all interesting cause usually sans mones I do hold convos with them longer. I also did notice one of the ones I really don’t know or talk to was kinda giving me looks, I couldn’t pinpoint it yet or could be just coincidence but more theories to be tested at that point. Nothing really out of the ordinary happened tonight but I’m noting here variances in women I know baselines from so it does hold true for some of the mixes I’ve been using.
Also R has a bf so that’s why it’s discounted. I also discounted R and Z cause of the slight height difference, they’re a bit taller, but so was G and that worked out well in the end. But Z I couldn’t really tell cause I don’t know yet I’ve always looked at her as a friend but hey, you never know nowadays. We’ll see how it goes.
I’m not sure I’m following you here 
By liking you I meant “familiar with you” making a higher -none sig less of an issue, because they may already be at a certain comfort level with you just because they are familiar. That also can make different “personality types” a tad more receptive to a sig they might not “fit” into. I feel the more you KNOW someone or have comfort with them the more excepting they may be to an occasional boost in -none for example even if thats not the "category they fit into. It may even have good results.
I’m not sure what you thought i meant
I know they like me, we’re friends, I thought YOU meant liking as in more than friends lol
LOL, you guys are funny!
I was reading something that M&M posted
Events that transpired last night and the subjects my friend and I were talking about really do bring about how both your actions and the mones you wear truly do make a lasting impact. This has been true to my belief that mones aren’t a one stop shop, one ultimate product, one MX, one putative can really give you a vibe that will hit everytime with everyone. Most of you have followed on my theories on different mones and different types of personalities that react better to them.
There’s this new girl at my spot, really adorable, but young, and taken. But I always have to remind myself that AD’s main purpose is to really make this a happier and fun place to be is really great with the products that they produce. Like my previous A-Hole mix, you can see how a high Androstenone fueled night can potentially turn bad. It compares to when I used this mix (IBF) and how well it worked as compared to how well the AHole mix would work but with less aggressiveness.
I got to the bar first and was just waiting for my friend and P’s side was full so I’m at NG (New girl)'s side. I saw hello and I order and just watch the games going on, occasionally texting. This goes on for about 5 minutes and NG lingers around for a bit. I could tell from the body language that she was fidgety and nervous. Usually the girls there when it’s slow congregate at a spot and just talk amongst themsevles, which is why I was wondering why she was hanging around. I don’t have enough of a baseline with her to really know if anything was hitting. I was actually using the IBFS version which is 2x TUTH vs 1x. I wanted to test out another theory with P there but it wasn’t working out as much as I don’t think it was. Anyway, as the night progressed she was able to open up and actually have some fun. It was almost like an initiation process with the new bartenders there. They have a lot of fun with us, and it’s been mentioned several times they do cause we’re all fun guys.
Anyways, what I did notice was that NG remembered all the conversations I was having a couple of days prior. Remembered my name, and knew a bit more of the details I talk to the other one about.
Point being is that the sigs, especially comfort and -erone based ones can really give a lasting impact. Moreover, wioth the P96 being used it does have a comforting effect with G and Z, I’ve realized how comfortable they’ve become with me and it’s become evident more and more during the last few weeks.
Can you expand a bit more on your theory and how it ties into M&M’s conclusions. I got a little bit lost
When I was first testing molecules without knowing what they were going to do I thought that sometimes they were a bust and I completely overlooked the hits that I was getting because it wasn’t over the top blatant, I thought that the hits would present themselves easier because of the mones. Further on when I started to realize the effects that they helped garner, I realized that they were working but on a “quieter” level.
For example, during the beginning of my testing at my spot I was using a lot of socials, or comfort/high value mixes. Mixes like ICM/IBF/P96 based weren’t so much as hard hitting as let’s say an IJ/UF testing. The ones that I interacted with with the former mixes didn’t show so much outright IOI’s until I started to find out how there was subtle attraction there that was more genuine as the interactions were more over a protracted period of time instead of a couple of nights. I started to realize this when I finally got to talking to D about “us” and how it pertained to our current situation. I realized that all I did in conjunction with the mixes were leading up to a deeper and much more lasting attraction.
Also with P, I started to notice little subtleties with her as well. I can’t confirm it, obviously because of what I mentioned in the past, but if she’s ever single again, then I could confirm at a later date. Also, aside from the attraction side, G might have also been affected by it but that’s a hard theory to confirm because she’s consciously closed off.
On the flip side, with “spot” attraction with S and B, it was fleeting and short lived. The quick and hard IJ/UF works well with them, but after that there is no other interactions at that point. It seems to give more of a Mr. Right now, instead of Mr. Right vibe and the results I’ve gotten with them were more blatant and more for everyone to watch due to the environment that we’re in.
It ties in to M&M’s theory because you and anyone else who’s followed this Journal has told me of the hits/IOI’s but I never took advantage of it. To me it didn’t seem like an IOI because of the subtleties of it.
I hope this clears it up a little bit, I was typing that post out throughout the day at work and I probably didn’t organize my thoughts well enough. If there are any points that I conveyed in a confusing manner lemme know, it helps me out when I’m reporting and gathering my thoughts.
Thanks Mustang. I pretty much understood what you were writing but just wanted to be sure I was following correctly. I appreciate you taking the time to lay it out a bit more organized 
. Great analogies and I would say I agree completely. It happens more often than most of us know. You can basically read it in nearly every thread from all the new community members. Great summation
Steve is the frigging man.
This is the closest you’ll get to ordering from AD without actually ordering from AD. The stuff I got from him is absolutely amazing. I bought the MX301 roll on oil based ones, just in time for summer.
Also Steve threw in a few goodies.
My favorite
MX301 3x at game scent. LOVIN IT!
I’m like a kid on Christmas morning right now.
Oh and guess what
ICM 2.0!!!
I’m gonna let it sit for a week or so more, I’m sure Steve wouldn’t send it out until it’s fully composited but I will just give it that extra time before I go out on the field with this.