Would you say that a person of authority IE the President who has uber authority would benefit more from an IG type signature because people already get that alpha vibe from his position so if he were to wear 4 drops A314 people may start to act negatively towards him or resist him as being more of a dictator whereas wearing IG would actually get him MORE of a follow the leader type vibe due to his position?!?!?!?
This is a good question, I think that a person with an IG vibe would get people to follow him more. A person would also to have to take into account if he or she was being congruent to the signal they are putting out. If a person is wear IG and they act like they have A314 on it will confuse the targets and limit someone’s results.
But that’s the thing, it shouldn’t be wearing off, it’s probably because you are in a position of authority that it didn’t give you beta vibes anymore. That would mean people at first impression would get that vibe which totally defeats the purpose for the second IG revision. I look at it the same way as being “incongruent” with a sig because you’re not being “x” and people will dismiss it in their mind.
I’ve noticed with ICM 2.0, there is more of a “consideration” when it comes to post reactions with women. More noticeably, when plans are made, or night after the fact of interactions, I’ve been getting texts that were initiated by them. This has been a recurring theme with them this whole time that I’ve tested, from the first batch that Steve gave me to this one. Again you need some good game with this, like he said, the M3 model. This is a “sticky” effect mix, that the latent effects last longer post exposure. Really a big shame AD can’t make this.
IMO…as smelly was saying(I think) regular IG is able to sway one direction or the other depending on where you want to take it(congruency I guess you could say)… So P51 is it your opinion that the 2nd IG revision is more like a little sister rather than A314’s little brother 
and thus defeats the whole purpose of it being labeled as IG!!!
I wouldn’t go as far as feminine but it lacks the “Warmth” that the IG had.
I couldn’t help but notice more that MX401 was way too social for my liking. It was nice, but it could be the same as like an IO/IH + IS mix, and I think it would give very similar results. It got to the point when most of my interactions were taking longert han I wanted them to, and I couldn’t quite get people to leave my desk.
It reminded me somewhat of a P97 type reaction.
I applied 2x to both sides of the neck, and interactions were between 1 hour to 3 hours after application.
Another ICM 2.0 report.
2x to the side of each neck. The smell is perfect for night time wear IMO. The scent diffuses so well that it’s a little bit quicker hitting than my first first initial test of 2.0 with the Neroli.
Anyways, I walk into the place and grab myself a beer. My friends are running a few minutes behind so I went to go use the facilities and along the way I get to say hi to some of the girls that I know there. Was getting some “you look handsome” “looking sharp” comments so I knew right away that the looks + MX was gonna work pretty well. I’m still waiting for my friends and as I’m walking by FD1 stops where I am and continues walking with me, I get a little poke, and as we’re walking towards the same direction she’s giggling like a little school girl, no joke I’ve never seen anyone so giddy/happy to see me. We know each other pretty well too and we fuck with each other (not physically, yet) on an on going basis and pretty much people think we’re fucking around anyway (physically) that it’s just that way with us. So normally its good aggressive banter back and forth with us. Anyways, she does what she has to do and I approach FD2, I already had a few drinks before this one so I was already in the tipsy side. However I was more ballsy tonight with speaking with women. So she’s conversing with a mutual friend and I just go in and enter the conversation normally. As there is a lull in the convo, I proceed to bust her chops that she’s a bad girl, cause in reality this girl is ms innocent. She gets all giggly and shy, we continue on with the flirting till FD1 comes behind me and pinches me. Tries to get into the convo, and knowing how she is, I do my best to include her, but not outright include her, if you know what I mean. I didn’t make it seem like I was catering cause she got there, but I also wasn’t going to isolate her because she came in the middle of me and FD2 flirting.
The night goes on and my friends get there and I just speak with them for the remainder of the short night. FD1 kept stopping by to bust my chops, and proceeds to attempt to use me as an emotional tampon. Again I wasn’t being an ass and simply said, I already told you my opinion, and kept on with a different conversation without upping the tension. Needless to say, FD1 has tried to get my attention a bit more and has been a heck of a lot flirtier than late.
I keep noticing that women tend to make a lot of mistakes and get all flustered. Seems to be an emerging trend.
Lets hope AD makes this and soon 
I can’t believe she actually did that, I was thinking to myself “why the f* is she giggling like that”
Oh Stangman. Don’t pretend you’re all confused. 
Silly fem can’t think of what else to say to you and is resorting to 8th grade flirting tactics. Your just so awesome, all she can do is giggle in the shining beacon of your presence. My interpretation and I’m sticking to it. 
The M3 model w ICM 2.0 really is wonders lol. It makes sense though since everyone thinks were talking to each other anyway
On a serious note; to me she sounds like some girls I know here. They don’t have any other frame of reference to keep a conversation (either vacuous or things been so confusing for them, they’ve forgotten how to flirt) going. M3 model or whatever, this is classic reversion to the ‘cute’ thing that I see girls doing when stuck for another avenue of expression. The giggling could indicate that she’s just become aware of a flip in her perspective of you.
Not all emotional bleeding needs an emotional tampon - to quote you. Sometimes, the ‘picking at the scabs’ or trying to pry open the known wound is for the 'nice, big man to look; “oh, but it’s all good now. it’s just a memory of pain” smile at her, take her hand and lead the communication in a new direction. Yes, it’s stupid. But remember - you all have your PUA and stuff. Girls don’t; we’re expected to know how to do this stuff - just because we have the pink bits you want. No-one teaches a girl how to flirt or escalate - and there is a need - believe me.
Nothing more intimidating than a guy you’re interested in and you don’t know how to approach or how to ‘inspire’ him to approach. Or possibly change his view on where you stand on the ‘dating’ scale.
This is why I like it when I get women’s perspective in here.
I gotta think of it in that sense too, thanks Astrea
I think there is a dosing issue with ICM 2.0 with the sprays I’ve been using. Something just isn’t clicking as good as it was when I first tried it out. Don’t get me wrong, ITS GOOD, but different from the first time I tried it. I think I may drop down to one then go to three and check out the differences.
Anyways because I didn’t want to waste more of the product on every day uses, I just reverted back to the old MX301 and P75 mix that I’ve been trying. The last few times I’ve used about a 3x:2.5mcg ratio of MX301:P75 I feel that this one works wonderfully in terms of even more obvert signs of IOI’s. In the few times I’ve tested this, it’s only really surprised me because from baseline reactions from women I knew, it made them more pushy, and more obvert that it was noticed by my friends.
I’d like to see someone else try it out and see how it’s worked for them.
It could be that when I initially made it, I made a very small batch. Then when I made it again I had to use other bottles because the first ones were empty. You got from the same batch that everybody else got though, which makes it all the more strange.
I’ve noticed that as it sits the Akuto/Neroli mix has really died down to almost not even there. Another mystery!
I’ve got some old MX302, I’ll try to test it later this week with P75 for comparison. I’ve also got some custom made MX302 oil and that stuff is freakin amazing! Love that stuff, I’m not sure why but it really makes guys friendly towards me. I went to a frat party last year, got a lot of respect from the frat guys at the door, even though I’m not one of them.:o SteveO definitely buffered the -none in these mixes well.
Have you tried MX301 with P83? Did it add or enhance anything?
I gotta try that out I never thought of doing that cause I know Steve made a P83 version but will try that up next.
It’s not that it’s not effective, I didn’t mean to imply it was useless btw. I think I’ve either reached the max point in reactions with the ones I’ve used it with, or like what you said in an earlier post, that you might have to lay off mones for a while. I’ve just saved it so that the next time I meet new people I can try it out and look at the responses. I’ve prety much used all I could in my testing grounds, gotta find new ones.
I completely didn’t take this into consideration. Natural T production in relation with Androstenone could be what’s skewing my effects here. It’s happened to me in the past when my body fat percentage went up and my working out slowed down. Because of what’s been going on with work and other obligations, I’ve been slacking lately and not being as healthy as I have. I noticed this with the lack of overall attraction I’ve gotten over the past couple of months.
The next few months are going to be more rigorous training and should get my natural T up and androstenone production. I could add a small dose of -none to compensate for my natural production without skewing the actual ratio for the mix.
I will double check when I go out this weekend.